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Does anyone know of any occupational, speach, and/or ABA, therapists in the Northeast (Isaan) area that work with children who have Autism or Aspbergers?

We live in Khon Kaen with our three year old and are just beginning to look into what is available for him since we know that he is on the spectrum.

We are willing to move to Chiang Mai or Bangkok if we absolutely need to do that, but we are looking into what is available for us locally.

Thanks in advance for any helpful recommendations, connections, links, or direction. Private message me on here.

JL

Posted

LJ,

I have worked with children on the Autism sprectrum and will be moving to Chaing Mai at the end of July. I will be woring at a private Thai k-12 but not in special education. Let me know if there is any thing I can do for you.

YB

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http://www.autisticthailand.com/whatnewnwhatupdate.htm

These guys are talking about some programs for autistic people going on at Khon Kaen University. It sounds like they are talking fairly advanced students though.

My Thai isn't really up to scratch for something like this, but if you have someone fluent it might give you some local contacts in the area. While I'm not sure any of these links are exactly what you are looking for, the fact that they are discussing autism programs at Khon Kaen University would lead me to believe they would probably be aware of any local resources that are available.

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Hi. My partner's son was diagnosed with autism at a hospital in khon kaen whilst living in issan about five years ago. I don't know if things have changed much but i believe khon kaen was the only place in issan to have any form of diagnosis/treatment facilities. My partner's son used to go for educational classes once a month at the hospital. You will find in thailand that gaining help for autistic/special needs children is difficult. Hospitals as i've already mentioned will offer some assistance but this will be limited - as we experienced. Once your child has reached the age to go to school you will find things extremely difficult. Pre-school nursery's will tolerate a more demanding child but once at school many teacher's will not accept the difficulties and are not trained, particularly in issan, to teach a special need's child. Many schools will refuse immediately or tell you go after a short spell. Although thai's are supposedly tolerant there is much discrimination towards special needs children. The last five year's my partner's son has been in bangkok, which although not perfect is massively more equipped to deal with special needs. You will find some of the same discrimination here but with effort it's possible to find schooling for your child. I can particularly recommend the government hospital in din daeng which is very affordable and gives different types of classes or one to one tuition for special needs children. We use this facility about twice a month in addition to full time schooling where he studies in a special needs class in a 'normal' school. At eight years old he still cannot speak. You need to be aware of this possibility. Some special children develop speech, some don't, some have delayed speech. However, he has improved massively in behaviour from when he was younger where he used to through 'meltdowns' regularly. In general, apart from the lack of speech he is pretty easy to take care of - although every special child is different. There are other government hospitals in samut prakan and nr victory monument that offer help to special needs children. Samut prakan i believe also offers full time schooling. Lastly, he initially went to a special school in prakanong where many people go. This is reasonably priced. He went there for about three years. It's o.k but we were lucky to change to our present school because we did'nt feel he was developing enough. Some schools operate a bit like a creche giving relief to some parent's who are just happy to have a bit of relief. There are some private schools that may accept special children but these are much more expensive. One last point i would caution you about is many doctors readiness to prescribe ritalin 'the chemical cosh' to autistic children. My partner's son was given this before my involvement, at age 2. I researched this myself and found that ritalin is not supposed to be given to children under six. Thai's seem to think that medicine is a 'cure all' and will not question a doctor. Again, each child is different, i have heard of good and bad results in relation to ritalin. I'm just not a believer of chemical methods, prefering a more natural approach. In our case he improved substantially after discontinuing it in terms of tantrums and general behavior. Your decision - just something to be aware of. Overall, not an easy road but things can work out if you persist. My advise, just network as much as you can among thai's and expat's to find out what's available - good luck.

  • 1 month later...
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If anybody knows of an English-speaking Speech Therapist...

We are an American expat family looking for a speech therapist (MA or MS, CCC- SLP) that can help our 3 year old, slightly apraxic son with therapy sessions in Koh Samui, Thailand. Ideal candidates will have pediatric experience covering expressive and receptive language delays as well as apraxia. Knowledge of PROMPT/Beckman method is a plus, as well oral motor therapy in kids with tonal problems. Please contact me at [email protected] for further details regarding our son and the arrangement. If you know of anyone, then please pass this on to your friends or colleagues.

thank you

Posted

If anybody knows of an English-speaking Speech Therapist...

We are an American expat family looking for a speech therapist (MA or MS, CCC- SLP) that can help our 3 year old, slightly apraxic son with therapy sessions in Koh Samui, Thailand. Ideal candidates will have pediatric experience covering expressive and receptive language delays as well as apraxia. Knowledge of PROMPT/Beckman method is a plus, as well oral motor therapy in kids with tonal problems. Please contact me at [email protected] for further details regarding our son and the arrangement. If you know of anyone, then please pass this on to your friends or colleagues.

thank you

That is a pretty tall order. That said, I do know of an SLP with a "Doctorate" degree, and at one time I believe he held CCC. CCC = certification in Clinical Competency... the funny thing is, once you have a CCC it can be taken away if you do not pay your yearly dues.

Regardles, this SLP resides in Bangkok and has a history of working with Autistic children.

  • 4 weeks later...
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Hi YB,

Did you make it to Chiang Mai? My family and I are considering a move there from Khon Kaen so that we can help our youngest son. What school are you working at? My son will be 4 in November. Look forward to hearing from you.

John

LJ,

I have worked with children on the Autism sprectrum and will be moving to Chaing Mai at the end of July. I will be woring at a private Thai k-12 but not in special education. Let me know if there is any thing I can do for you.

YB

Posted

Hi YB,

Did you make it to Chiang Mai? My family and I are considering a move there from Khon Kaen so that we can help our youngest son. What school are you working at? My son will be 4 in November. Look forward to hearing from you.

John

LJ,

I have worked with children on the Autism sprectrum and will be moving to Chaing Mai at the end of July. I will be woring at a private Thai k-12 but not in special education. Let me know if there is any thing I can do for you.

YB

Posted

Hi, I know a very good therapist that can help with speech delay and autism. Her name is Sirima and she works at Bangkok hospital. She has an intensive early intervention program for children who have autism. But the parents have to participate in her program. That means one of the parents has to implement the program that she will teach with the child at home. In my case, I quitted my job and has been working with my son for over a year now. From the start, I visited the therapists 3 times a week and followed the ABA early intervention home based program. I started working with my son since he woke up until he went to bed. It has been very tough, but it was worth it. One year and a half passed, my son is totally a different person now. Before, he never turned when called, got no speech, space out, now he can speak, loves to smile and has a good sense of humour. One more thing that I like to share is that from what I read and my own experience with my son, in order for the child to get improvement quickly, the child needs to receive 30 to 40 hours of therapy per week and it has to be one on one. I live in Thailand and have never seen any kids received 30-40 hrs of therapy per week, unless the child's parents hire their own therapist. And I bet that would cost so much money. As for me, in order for my son to receive this many hours of therapy, I got to do it myself and............. again.....it was worth it........This is another option for parents who depend on the therapist to help their kids a few hous per week and never see any result.

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Having worked with autistic children full time for ten years before, I am very much interested in the care of autistic children in Thailand.

Allthough I worked in a different kind of therapy with Autistic children I was impressed by the option method of Kaufman developed in taking care their own autistic son

There has been made a movie about how they took care him and I think they came very near to the right way to help him, and he was helped.

http://www.researchautism.net/interventionitem.ikml?print&ra=23&infolevel=4

I was very much impressed by the fact that the parents did take care and in fact did help their child themself at their home.

Having worked in a specialised hospital for autistic children I still think the best to do is to help parents to help their own child in the home situation.

But parents must be willing to do so and be able to do so. Not everybody can and there is no need to feel

shame about that.

The Kaufmans where helped by friends and relatives.

I know it can be very difficult and I know about the mistakes we can make.

It would be nice to stay informed about your search for help in your situation.

Posted

According to my medical friend in Thailand Khon Kaen hospital has a specialism in treating autism.

Khon Kaen Hospital and Thailand Goverment Hospitals may advertise Child Developmental Pediatrics, however I do not believe that the hospital staff are trained and proficent to confidently offer the correct and full support and treatment to the parents and children.

From my experience this lack of staff education as promoted a sour, negative out look from both Nurse and Doctor.

A friend of mine living in Khon Kaen with a child affected by ASD was forced by budget to rely on Khon kaen Srinakarin Hospital for treatment. The teatment offered by Khon Kaen Srinakarin was very limited, confined to less than a 30 minute appointment with a Pediatrician and a 30 minute appointment with a Therapist 2 times per month, which after 3 months was reduced to 1 appointment per month. From my understanding their was no option or disscussion offered to my friend who defiently wanted and insisted on more time, more appointments and better treatment but was just given the option of take it or leave it.

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We will have Integrative medicine for ADHD and ASD on November 26-30. Guest speaker : Dr Jeff Bradstreet director ICDRC and DAN tutor. Dr Bradstreet will also help for consultation after conference.

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I am not surprised the autisme specialisation in Khon Kaen is not as what can be meet in some western countries.

It is just a pitty I cannot read or speak Thai so I could read the information on Khon Kaen hospital website.

Translating the website information by Google translate showed me some text that did not make me more happy about the aproach of autism but since the text was a bad translation it is hard to judge about the given information.

My friend cannot give additional information since she is not familiar with the 'autism' spectrum.

By my experience the treatment of autisme is quite difficult.

It depends however on the severeness of the autism in the person.

I worked with primary autistic children and that is very different from people who tell they are autistic when they notice they cannot coop well wih social situations. (It seems to be very trendy today to be a little bit autistic)

The word autisme itself even is a wrong description of the special state 'autistic' children are born in since autisme means; a withdrawl into ones self. Well befofe one can withdrawl into ones self there first has to be a oneself to withdraw in.

In my view a pure 'autistic ' child, so a severe primariy autistic child, has a deficit in the development of the Self as the center of existence in the world. To make this more understandable, it helps to look at an 'autistic' as a person who has no Self at all. So the treatment should be directed to this deficit.

To treat an 'autistic' child asks for a very good and broad diagnose. Then one has to be aware there are several philosophies out of witch autisme can be aproached.

Dr, Bradstreet is the representative of one of the philosophies.

It is just a choice but when my child would be an autistic child it would not be treated by the aproach of Mr. Bradstreet, but this doesnot mean this way is not worth to learn about.

When a broad and good diagnose would be made then it is a lot of work to find good experienced and motivated therapists working with the child(ren)

I can tell you this costs a lot of study and a lot of money.

The hospital I worked in seemed to be the the spoiled Benjamin in health care at that time in my country, it received a lot of money and we worked 24/7 all the time with the children.

So I think the situation in Thailand cannot be a developed situation in the treatment of autism, it needs awareness, money, specialists, facillities and a lot of good will.

So all together a difficult situation but probably still better as in most African countries.

The next link is a website refering to Mr. Jeff Bradstreet., there will be more to find on the internet, cos this one is not very positive.

http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/bradstreet.html

  • 1 year later...
Posted (edited)

Hi there, I dont know if this thread is still active, but I may be able to help.. I have a company that sets up ABA Programs as a treatment plan for children with Autism, and I am now based in Thailand. My own son went through the program and is now fully functional, verbal and social on par with his peers. I really hope this can help some people!

www.simply-aba.com

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