Australian Man Abandons Jailed Thai Girlfriend's Baby In Hospital

[tigerbalm]

He did the smartest and most decent things to be done ...

a.) He got the heck away from that situation as fast as possible ... phew!!!

b.) He had the greatest of decency to personally take the baby to the safest and best possible place

before disappearing.

BIG respect to Mr Ron

I'm assuming Ron was not the babies father and just a decent bloke

(to all you racialist pigs - kindly note that I am a Brit patting an Aussie on the back)

Agreed IMHO he did the decent thing, the article mentioned the Police were able to trace the mother so i would assume he must have left some details of the babies mother for them to be able to Trace her.

[basjke]

And how did they find out who the mother was.Guess the 8 month old didn't tell them.

I think the story is missing some facts.Sounds to me that the farang isn't such a bad lad.

[Randee]

put in the hands of the proper Thai authorities

Is that supposed to be good?

[basjke]

Last year she knew him as Ron 59

Don't laugh about this! I only joined ThaiVisa for a laugh and that was 8 years ago

Simon (50)

So you age only 7 years in every 8 years then.

[Randee]

He did the smartest and most decent things to be done ...

a.) He got the heck away from that situation as fast as possible ... phew!!!

b.) He had the greatest of decency to personally take the baby to the safest and best possible place

before disappearing.

BIG respect to Mr Ron

I'm assuming Ron was not the babies father and just a decent bloke

(to all you racialist pigs - kindly note that I am a Brit patting an Aussie on the back)

Agreed IMHO he did the decent thing, the article mentioned the Police were able to trace the mother so i would assume he must have left some details of the babies mother for them to be able to Trace her.

Yes that's right tiger, he must've done. He's a decent chap in my books What was he supposed to do? File for custody???

[noahvail]

Another Drug Prohibition story... An alternative? Legalize and regulate just like alcohol and cigarettes. LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

Yeah mate that should solve the problem..

I wonder what are you on?

Your false accusations are proof of your foolishness...

you know nothing about that poster.... yet you call a foolish remark with your propaganda to discredit him.

Likewise, you know nothing of that you speak so dismiss it as foolishness to discredit the concept.

A fool laughs at knowledge, let alone discredits someone or something he knows nothing of.

However, you'd have to think first to call it knowledge. Something you have clearly done little of without the opinions given to you.

I'm only responding here to say, perhaps you could try to recognize some humour. But never mind.

I was a registered substance abuse counselor at one time, way back when. I've seen firsthand (yes, first-hand), the problems caused, as I was called to the ED [ER] and/or police station any number of times to work with those who had gotten themselves into quite a mess. Drug-related crimes and not 'victimless' crimes - sometimes it is the drug-taker who is the victim, sometimes it is friends, families, the public-at-large.

Granted, everyone has a choice: they can choose to drink, to snort, to shoot up...whatever. But once addicted, it is tremendously harder to make a conscious choice NOT to feed their habits.

I'm not going to argue with you. You have your viewpoint, I have mine; we will never agree on the major points.

[Randee]

You wanna know something?

When 'prohibition' ends I am gonna set up shop in front of your kids' school and sell them drugs..

Not feeling comfortable ,do you?

So 'legalising it' not such a good idea after all..

By the way have you ever met a drug user with an 'expanded conciousness'?

Yeah..exactly..

What a racket..

Grow up...drugs suck..well.. so does alcohol and cigarettes if you ask me..

Why are they legal?That's a topic for another thread.

i dont really want to get involved in you guy's little skirmish here but

im going to answer your question here with a signature i saw on someones comment

"A life without drugs and alchohol will not make you live longer. But it will feel like it"

also ...

Any person who is "Anti" yet drives a motor vehicle, is a hypocrit

[sbk]

Can't even make it to two full pages without getting inflammatory.

lets drop the flaming, the baiting and the general nastiness, cheers.

[ratcatcher]

He did the smartest and most decent things to be done ...

a.) He got the heck away from that situation as fast as possible ... phew!!!

b.) He had the greatest of decency to personally take the baby to the safest and best possible place

before disappearing.

BIG respect to Mr Ron

I'm assuming Ron was not the babies father and just a decent bloke

(to all you racialist pigs - kindly note that I am a Brit patting an Aussie on the back)

Are you sure Aussies like British back patters?

[Randee]

He did the smartest and most decent things to be done ...

a.) He got the heck away from that situation as fast as possible ... phew!!!

b.) He had the greatest of decency to personally take the baby to the safest and best possible place

before disappearing.

BIG respect to Mr Ron

I'm assuming Ron was not the babies father and just a decent bloke

(to all you racialist pigs - kindly note that I am a Brit patting an Aussie on the back)

Are you sure Aussies like British back patters?

ooooooo sssssspiteful bitch!!!

[Jimi007]

No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs...

Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach..

Lock them all up! That is your answer to the problem? Hasn't worked very well, has it? It's a social, medical and psychological problem! Making it criminal just fills up the courts and prisons. But it does give the police something to do. We all get to pay for the cost of making it a crime, instead of treating it for what it is...

Edited June 3, 2010 by Jimi007

[Randee]

No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs...

Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach..

Ah, the local drug expert! Lock them all up! That is your answer to the problem? Hasn't worked very well, has it? It's a social, medical and psychological problem! Making it criminal just fills up the courts and prisons. But it does give the police something to do. We all get to pay for the cost of making it a crime, instead of treating it for what it is...

Well said Jimi

Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee

[Wolfie]

CHON BURI: -- An 8-month-old baby girl was found discarded inside the Memorial Pattaya Hospital early Thursday.

Am i the only one who thinks that leaving a baby (even in a hospital) isn't a good thing, like most of you are suggesting.

Simple fact.. he abandoned the child, discarded is the exact phrase the news article used... I don't give a rats ass if the guy was the kids father, step-father or just some random guy tapping the Thai mother, you don't just discard/abandon a 8mth old baby in a hospital and walk away... If this guy was such a decent chap, as most of you are suggesting, then physically handing over the child to the authorities is the right course of action, not getting to the hospital grounds and leaving the baby carriage somewhere and walk away.

[Randee]

CHON BURI: -- An 8-month-old baby girl was found discarded inside the Memorial Pattaya Hospital early Thursday.

Am i the only one who thinks that leaving a baby (even in a hospital) isn't a good thing, like most of you are suggesting.

Simple fact.. he abandoned the child, discarded is the exact phrase the news article used... I don't give a rats ass if the guy was the kids father, step-father or just some random guy tapping the Thai mother, you don't just discard/abandon a 8mth old baby in a hospital and walk away... If this guy was such a decent chap, as most of you are suggesting, then physically handing over the child to the authorities is the right course of action, not getting to the hospital grounds and leaving the baby carriage somewhere and walk away.

There are worse characters than him. There are bad characters who could've done any other action rather than "make sure the baby was ok".

In my eyes the story could've had a much much drastically worse ending

Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee

[junglist]

Another Drug Prohibition story... An alternative? Legalize and regulate just like alcohol and cigarettes. LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

amen!!!

[robertson468]

If he is the father and living in Thailand i find the guy an total <deleted>. He should have cared for the baby then or hired someone to do it.

If he is just on holiday only knew the girl a short time and not the father then he did the right thing.

Hard to know how to judge him because we dont know all the facts.

Agreed

In other words a poorly researched and written report. If it had been a decent piece of journalism everyone would have had the facts and then been able to slate the poor guy anyway.

[Wolfie]

There are worse characters than him. There are bad characters who could've done any other action rather than "make sure the baby was ok".

In my eyes the story could've had a much much drastically worse ending

I am not disputing that, yes this could have been much much worse.

However, walking into a hospital with an 8mth old baby, discarding/abandoning/leaving the baby and then simply walking away without even a word to any of the authorities does not make him the 'Decent bloke' you are all singing about...

[ScubaBuddha]

Last week we had a newborn baby was left for dead in the bushes on the side of the road here in Phuket. It was lucky a jogger found her.

If this guy was truly just a tourist and got this girls baby dumped on him with no known relatives to contact, he probably did the right thing. If it's his baby, well then shame on him.

[Randee]

If he is the father and living in Thailand i find the guy an total <deleted>. He should have cared for the baby then or hired someone to do it.

If he is just on holiday only knew the girl a short time and not the father then he did the right thing.

Hard to know how to judge him because we dont know all the facts.

Agreed

In other words a poorly researched and written report. If it had been a decent piece of journalism everyone would have had the facts and then been able to slate the poor guy anyway.

Agreed again

apart from slating him

Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee

[BigWheelMan]

My first question after recent times was, 'Is this really an Australia or another another breed claiming to be an Aussie?'

Oh please, please.

Of course he`s an Aussie. No one in they`re right mind who is not an Aussie would ever claim to be Aussie.

[Randee]

There are worse characters than him. There are bad characters who could've done any other action rather than "make sure the baby was ok".

In my eyes the story could've had a much much drastically worse ending

I am not disputing that, yes this could have been much much worse.

However, walking into a hospital with an 8mth old baby, discarding/abandoning/leaving the baby and then simply walking away without even a word to any of the authorities does not make him the 'Decent bloke' you are all singing about...

I'm sure he had very good reason for not wanting to get involved with Thai authorities. All sorts of complications could've arisen. I think he did sufficient

The wording of the headline is anti. It should read that he "annonymously delivered safely"

Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee

[Randee]

My first question after recent times was, 'Is this really an Australia or another another breed claiming to be an Aussie?'

Oh please, please.

Of course he`s an Aussie. No one in they`re right mind who is not an Aussie would ever claim to be Aussie.

[coconutmonkey]

Another Drug Prohibition story... An alternative? Legalize and regulate just like alcohol and cigarettes. LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

Yeah mate that should solve the problem..

I wonder what are you on?

Your false accusations are proof of your foolishness...

you know nothing about that poster.... yet you call a foolish remark with your propaganda to discredit him.

Likewise, you know nothing of that you speak so dismiss it as foolishness to discredit the concept.

A fool laughs at knowledge, let alone discredits someone or something he knows nothing of.

However, you'd have to think first to call it knowledge. Something you have clearly done little of without the opinions given to you.

You wanna know something?

Yes. Please enlighten me.... I'm awaiting profound wisdom...

When 'prohibition' ends I am gonna set up shop in front of your kids' school and sell them drugs..

Sure, I will teach my children so she can choose for herself... isn't that the idea of freedom of choice? But sure, you can dictate.... besides, you'll have the criminals continue sell drugs instead. No problem there,eh?

Not feeling comfortable ,do you?

Not feeling comfortable, are you? That's what you mean to say...

So 'legalising it' not such a good idea after all..

Wow, conclusive evidence and strong reasoning. Well done.

By the way have you ever met a drug user with an 'expanded conciousness'?

Uhmm, well, more open minded than the likes of yourself yes.... better spelling and reasoning too. Also, can use spell check.

Yeah..exactly..

Exactly what?

What a racket..

Grow up...drugs suck..well.. so does alcohol and cigarettes if you ask me..

Why are they legal?That's a topic for another thread.

You know what really sucks..... taking away people's right to choose.... right to education... right to think for themselves... and taking away their families and preach of 'doing the right thing'. There are drugs in your kitchen doing much more harm than you would like to be aware of...

I wouldn't even wish that on you. Have a nice day, brother.

[Cuchulainn]

Go for it Geoff!! See you Saturday!!

A

[Daewoo]

My first question after recent times was, 'Is this really an Australia or another another breed claiming to be an Aussie?'

Oh please, please.

Of course he`s an Aussie. No one in they`re right mind who is not an Aussie would ever claim to be Aussie.

neverdie was referring to the Bog Irish C^nt (from the movie Devils Advocate) Red Shirt Protester claiming to be an Aussie...

As for who else would claim to be Aussie...

Irish Nationals when they are in the sh!t in Thailand..

Kiwi's when (always) we are flogging them at sport...

Canadians, when there is a risk people would otherwise think they are American...

Americans when people don't believe them when they say they are Canadian...

Everyone else who is jealous that they hail from inferior countries...

:

Cheers,

Daewoo

Edited June 3, 2010 by Daewoo

[sarahsbloke]

Ron is not the father!

How do I know? because 'father abandons baby in hospital' is a far better headline, and it would have been used if possible.

[Randee]

My first question after recent times was, 'Is this really an Australia or another another breed claiming to be an Aussie?'

Oh please, please.

Of course he`s an Aussie. No one in they`re right mind who is not an Aussie would ever claim to be Aussie.

neverdie was referring to the Bog Irish C^nt (from the movie Devils Advocate) Red Shirt Protester claiming to be an Aussie...

As for who else would claim to be Aussie...

Irish Nationals when they are in the sh!t in Thailand..

Kiwi's when (always) we are flogging them at sport...

Canadians, when there is a risk people would otherwise think they are American...

Americans when people don't believe them when they say they are Canadian...

Everyone else who is jealous that they hail from inferior countries...

:

Cheers,

Daewoo

Great answer!!!! (for an Aussie)

[doggie888888]

CHON BURI: -- An 8-month-old baby girl was found discarded inside the Memorial Pattaya Hospital early Thursday.

Am i the only one who thinks that leaving a baby (even in a hospital) isn't a good thing, like most of you are suggesting.

Simple fact.. he abandoned the child, discarded is the exact phrase the news article used... I don't give a rats ass if the guy was the kids father, step-father or just some random guy tapping the Thai mother, you don't just discard/abandon a 8mth old baby in a hospital and walk away... If this guy was such a decent chap, as most of you are suggesting, then physically handing over the child to the authorities is the right course of action, not getting to the hospital grounds and leaving the baby carriage somewhere and walk away.

Agreed 100%.

If I found a baby on my doorstep, do I just drive to the nearest hospital and DISCARD it there like some soi dog? Of course not and no decent person (whether he is the father, the BF, total stranger or a mere one-night-stand) would do it. I am shocked that so many posters seem to think that Ron did the right thing! Perhaps he should have taken the trouble (we are talking of a human life) to go to an orphanage and explain the situation re: the mother, and let them handle it. To just dump the baby at a public hospital and walk away is neither decent nor kind; it is plain irresponsible, careless, heartless, inhuman and stupid.

If anyone did what Ron did in a western country, I am sure he wouldn't be lauded as quite the hero as some posters here seem to think he is. Shame.

[Randee]

The headline should read.........

"Good hearted but shy Farang - rescues and safely delivers jailed Thai girl's abandoned baby to local hospital"

and then make a point that the police didn't do anything about the girls baby! and nor did anyone else!!! especially you self righteous critics on here!

The headlines of this post will do all of us Farang a misjustice and once again put Farang in a bad light.

It is the creator of these headlines who is causing a misjustice to all Farang!

Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee

[sirchai]

Last year she knew him as Ron 59?.

i couldn't stop laughing for few minutes.....heheheh

Did you look in a mirror after a long time? I understand that you couldn't stop...............