webfact Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 60-year-old Australian man leaves jailed girlfriend's baby in hospital CHON BURI: -- An 8-month-old baby girl was found discarded inside the Memorial Pattaya Hospital early Thursday. The girl was found in a baby carriage at 3:30 am. Security officers told police that they saw a foreigner pushing the carriage in at about 3 am. Police checked and found out that the baby's mother is Orasa Donsrakhu, 24, who has been detained at the Pattaya police station on drug abusing charge since Wednesday evening. Orasa told police that she left her baby with her Australian boyfriend, whom she knew only as Ron, 60. Police contacted Orasa's mother in Roi Et to bail her out and take both the mother and child back to Roi Et. -- The Nation 2010-06-03 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Last year she knew him as Ron 59?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecm Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 It should read: "Thai bar girl on drugs abandons her 8 month child while being incarcerated, a 60 year old Australian while on Holiday, whom she hardly knew, had the compassion to return the child to Thai Authorities via the local hospital" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Is he the father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedObserver Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Ron had enough common sense to drop the baby off at a hospital. Not a bad person at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Guess he got tired of her drug habit and got out while she was conveniently locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjmmi Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Last year she knew him as Ron 59?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpmsprtd Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Another Drug Prohibition story... An alternative? Legalize and regulate just like alcohol and cigarettes. LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs... Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach.. Edited June 3, 2010 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumball Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 To be honest , he most likely did the best thing he could think of , how many men , let alone at 60 , have the knowhow to care for a child of that age , DIY could have caused him all kinds of problems . We do not have the whole story as of yet , as in co-habitation , parentage , depth of drug use and types etc , so far the mother has only been charged (?) with drug abuse , how about unfit mother etc ? In my mind , the police were the first to abandon this child . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 My first question after recent times was, 'Is this really an Australia or another another breed claiming to be an Aussie?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieman05 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 It should read: "Thai bar girl on drugs abandons her 8 month child while being incarcerated, a 60 year old Australian while on Holiday, whom she hardly knew, had the compassion to return the child to Thai Authorities via the local hospital" Steve I must agree with you Seems there is always 2 sides to a story The glass if half empty The glass is half full But the one thing I have got to understand in Thailand It is always the Farang's fault Don't blame the girl Blame a culture that has made her this the way of life for ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) To be honest , he most likely did the best thing he could think of , how many men , let alone at 60 , have the knowhow to care for a child of that age , DIY could have caused him all kinds of problems . We do not have the whole story as of yet , as in co-habitation , parentage , depth of drug use and types etc , so far the mother has only been charged (?) with drug abuse , how about unfit mother etc ? In my mind , the police were the first to abandon this child . I agree to a certain extent, why was this child left in the care of a stranger not his relation where there was family to care for it? In civilized countries there is a family welfare dept. or something that would have taken the child into custody and care until arrangements could be made otherwise. JFYI I have the know how and have been taking care of our boys since they were born especially when they are sick, my wife even acknowledges that I'm more maternal then she is, I don't know if that's a good thing or not??? I do seem to have grown some man boobs since they were born .. But no doubt it is a handful even at my younger age, and it has not been mentioned whose child this is? If It's not his it is no wonder and also likely why he dropped it off at 3:30am too as he was probably exhausted and this was most definitely his and the childs best and most responsible option.. Edited June 3, 2010 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumball Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 'WarpSpeed' date='2010-06-03 11:55:35' ='3662934'] No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs... Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach.. Some of your post makes a little sense , however , she did not abandon her child to a complete stranger , the police abandoned the baby , leaving her with an elderly male whom they should have been aware might not have the wherewithall to care for her . Maybe they did not know or care , was she questioned about this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny747 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Last year she knew him as Ron 59?. i couldn't stop laughing for few minutes.....heheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 ['WarpSpeed' date=2010-06-03 11:55:35' ='3662934] No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs... Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach.. ['dumball' date=2010-06-03 12:11:17' post='3662980]Some of your post makes a little sense , however , she did not abandon her child to a complete stranger , the police abandoned the baby , leaving her with an elderly male whom they should have been aware might not have the wherewithall to care for her . Maybe they did not know or care , was she questioned about this ? You're not paying attention, I was responding in general to someone who advocates legalizing drugs I wasn't specifically speaking to this or any other case..In fact my next post following that which you probably didn't see because you were posting simultaneously refers to the real problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlandstone Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 It should read: "Thai bar girl on drugs abandons her 8 month child while being incarcerated, a 60 year old Australian while on Holiday, whom she hardly knew, had the compassion to return the child to Thai Authorities via the local hospital" That's exactly what I thought. It seems common that some on this website like to frame certain foreigners -- i.e. Westerners. If it were someone of another location, such as Pakistan or Middle East, the title would read "A foreigner.." and be more neutral. Good job to the man for taking the initiative -- and the risk of being framed -- by carting the poor young kid to a place of safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieudon Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Typical Farang behavior. The farang's fault 100% I bet he got her into drugs and ruined her life.. It's ALWAYS the farang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Assuming he's not the father then it seems rather than just leave the baby at the hospital it would have been kinder to make certain she had actually been taken in and that the authorities knew who her mother was. Sounds rather more like he didn't want to get involved, 8 month old baby or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randee Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) He did the smartest and most decent things to be done ... a.) He got the heck away from that situation as fast as possible ... phew!!! b.) He had the greatest of decency to personally take the baby to the safest and best possible place before disappearing. BIG respect to Mr Ron I'm assuming Ron was not the babies father and just a decent bloke (to all you racialist pigs - kindly note that I am a Brit patting an Aussie on the back) Edited June 3, 2010 by Randee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randee Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Assuming he's not the father then it seems rather than just leave the baby at the hospital it would have been kinder to make certain she had actually been taken in and that the authorities knew who her mother was. Sounds rather more like he didn't want to get involved, 8 month old baby or not. please see my post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 If he is the father and living in Thailand i find the guy an total <deleted>. He should have cared for the baby then or hired someone to do it. If he is just on holiday only knew the girl a short time and not the father then he did the right thing. Hard to know how to judge him because we dont know all the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randee Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 If he is the father and living in Thailand i find the guy an total <deleted>. He should have cared for the baby then or hired someone to do it. If he is just on holiday only knew the girl a short time and not the father then he did the right thing. Hard to know how to judge him because we dont know all the facts. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Is he the father? If he isn't he took all the required steps that a foreigner should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Well done to Ron for leaving the baby where it can get taken care of. In the article, the GF did not say that Ron was the baby's father. TheWalkingMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconutmonkey Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 No..........Another drug/child abandonment story, legalizing drugs will not make a person like this more responsible it will just give her more reason and excuse in her mind not to live up to her responsibility.. People addicted to drugs aren't known for their sense of reality nor responsibility, just how to get their next fix even if that means leaving their child with strangers or depriving them of food to have the money to purchase more drugs...Please explain how taxing and regulating then etc. is going to elevate that problem in the slightest?? It hasn't worked for either tobacco nor alcohol it's just brought it out front more and lined the pockets of the police and governments in the form of fines etc.. You're going to solve the worlds budget problems on the back of junkies?? That's even more pathetic an approach.. Wait... the problem is not the person, it's the behavior; both the habit and the separation from the baby. The problem is that the incarceration led her to being separated from her baby. That's a problem of drug prohibition.... bust up a family just cause someone wants to get high? Now the child has to suffer without a mother while she is locked up for the next however long. It does not solve her dependency issues and now the child suffers. This gets worse, not better for anyone. If, on the other hand, she had taken alcohol or tobacco or some legal prescription drugs and likewise was addicted, would it have led to the separation of the family in the immediate, or long term future???? No. At least otherwise she had a chance of ending her habit and keeping her family intact.... or an educational based program where she could keep the baby and fix the bad habit. Of course, forget the fact that education plays the major role in all of this..... as does brainwashing about illicit drug dangers (not related to the problems caused by being caught); based on the economic motives of pharmaceutical, tobacco and alcohol industries. Surely, forget enough fundamental information, you can convince yourself of anything.... especially the dark ages war against [illegal] drugs which statistically are associated with lower mortality rates than SUGAR, ALCOHOL and TOBACCO. Please don't tell me these are not under the blanket term 'drugs'. How much bad must be done in the name of good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangBuddha Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Last year she knew him as Ron 59?. Who knows what the true situation is...but best that the baby (who is not at fault in any of this) was left at the hospital where it would be soon be noticed and put in the hands of the proper Thai authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Last year she knew him as Ron 59 Don't laugh about this! I only joined ThaiVisa for a laugh and that was 8 years ago Simon (50) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 put in the hands of the proper Thai authorities Is that supposed to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconutmonkey Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Another Drug Prohibition story... An alternative? Legalize and regulate just like alcohol and cigarettes. LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Yeah mate that should solve the problem.. I wonder what are you on? Your false accusations are proof of your foolishness... you know nothing about that poster.... yet you call a foolish remark with your propaganda to discredit him. Likewise, you know nothing of that you speak so dismiss it as foolishness to discredit the concept. A fool laughs at knowledge, let alone discredits someone or something he knows nothing of. However, you'd have to think first to call it knowledge. Something you have clearly done little of without the opinions given to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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