Thai Ambassador Chosen As New Head Of UN Human Rights Council

[geriatrickid]

The use of the dramatic photographs is a weak attempt to justify the chaining of the Thais that are accused of illegal assembly. At the time of their chaining, they were not even accused of a violent act. Why are some of you conveniently ignoring the likelihood that these people in the wrong place at the wrong time? The two injured patients were not convicted of a violent crime, nor were they charged with a violent crime at the time. Why were these people not charged with a weapons offense? Is it because they did not have weapons? What part of this do you not get?

And now on to the collection of photographs that are intended to shock I suppose. These photographs are not identified. There is no source, there is no identification and yet people are expected to accept them as presented. Look at the pictures and use common sense. If these are convicts, then right away there's a major difference. The 2 Thais were not convicts. They were innocent of a crime until such time as a Thai court adjudicated the case. Nor was there any evidence that the 2 Thais were involved in a violent offense. And now off we go to look at the photos ;

1. Purportedly from Belgium, an empty hospital bed is shown with a solo fat foot. How is anyone to know that the foot is that of a prisoner? What is the history of the prisoner? Is he/she a violent killer? This might as well be from one of those European sex fetish sites.

2. Great. We get an image of some tattooed broad that looks like a crack whore. Does she have a history of violence? Is she incarcerated for murder? For all we know she could have been a Rhodes Scholar that went nuts after she found out that Brittney Spears shaved her head. What are the circumstances of the photo?

3. Woohoo, a picture purported to be from India. That's one heck of a long chain and it's attached to the guy's hand. His movement is not severely restricted, but ok, the guy that looks nasty and he's restrained. Thailand is just like India. Not much to cheer about there, but ok.

4. Nice dramatic posed picture from the UK that means nothing. Oh wait, the photographer and model are trying to express the horrors of restraining a violent offender. Now I get it.

5. Ok, you win with Kenya. Great. Thailand is similar to Kenya. Ok, You win.

[hideki]

The use of the dramatic photographs is a weak attempt to justify the chaining of the Thais

OR... an attempt to show the frequency and commonality of similar practices in other countries which depicts that Thailand is not much different than a wide assortment of many other countries from the practice of detaining people (and certainly not only those that have been convicted of a violent crime) while those people are hospitalized.

And now on to the collection of photographs that are intended to shock I suppose. These photographs are not identified. There is no source, there is no identification and yet people are expected to accept them as presented. Look at the pictures and use common sense. If these are convicts, then right away there's a major difference. The 2 Thais were not convicts. They were innocent of a crime until such time as a Thai court adjudicated the case. Nor was there any evidence that the 2 Thais were involved in a violent offense. And now off we go to look at the photos

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you could have saved your keyboard from unnecessary wear and tear if you had noticed:

A sampling of the whole lot of other places, too (links in the other thread):

perhaps the other thread is a more suitable location for this topic and I only reposted in this one after noticing mazeltov's reposting of the AHRC article here.

Edited June 23, 2010 by hideki

[Robby nz]

All this ranting about a couple of accused being chained to beds is laughable.

Are'nt their human rights being respected by giving them medical treatment for their injuries? would it have been better to chuck them in a cell without treatment.

Then I think of the human rights of all those who lost jobs or income, all those who had their business, lovelihoods burnt by the reds during their "peaceful rally" Did the reds respect their human rights or at least compensate them for the losses they suffered?

AHHH .. well no...... but the Govt and the BKK adminestration compensated them so who is the greater respecter of human rights?

And was it the human right of the rank and file protestors to get a free bus or train ride home from the Govt or should it have been the red organisations place to get them back from whence they came?

And if you reds really want to see human rights violations punished lets go farther back to Thaksins rule then there are all the war on drugs victims who died without trial and of course a truck load of handcuffed dead and so it goes on.

[jayboy]

And if you reds really want to see human rights violations punished lets go farther back to Thaksins rule then there are all the war on drugs victims who died without trial and of course a truck load of handcuffed dead and so it goes on.

Yes I agree.We are waiting for the necessary charges to be filed.

Wonder why it has taken so long?

[wester]

Article 19.

* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers.

Article 9.

* No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 5.

* No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Since Thailand now chairs the UN Office of Human Rights, this might be a good time to reflect on the articles above.

Suggestion for a new, provocative website to censor???

Why not try:

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

[webfact]

PM: Govt’s political stance accepted by international organizations

BANGKOK (NNT) -- The selection of Thai representative as the new President of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) illustrates that the international body has good understanding of Thailand’s political situation, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva says.

Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Thailand to the United Nations and other organizations in Geneva, Sihasak Phuangketkeowwho has been selected as the new President of the UNHRC, voted by 47 member states.

As elaborated by the Prime Minister, no declarations of the US government, European Unions and ASEAN condemn the government’s work. Understandings have rather been voiced along with the calls for transparency.

Moreover, Mr Abhisit said that the government is willing to accept claims and suggestions by the NGOs such as Amnesty International and will forward the suggestions to the investigative committee led by former Attorney General Kanit Na Nakorn that is in charge of clarifying the suspicions.

Following self-exiled ex Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s attempt to damage the country by hiring a new lobbyist Robert Amsterdam, Mr Abhisit stated his understanding toward Mr Thaksin’s propose, reasoning that everyone tended to use certain network to defend themselves, same as Thai people who use online social networks and other sources to defend the country’s reputation.

-- NNT 2010-06-23

[JetsetBkk]

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Mr Abhisit said that the government is willing to accept claims and suggestions by the NGOs such as Amnesty International and will forward the suggestions to the investigative committee led by former Attorney General Kanit Na Nakorn that is in charge of clarifying the suspicions.

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So does this mean that Khun Na Nakorn will be investigating claims by Amnesty International regarding Thailand's violations of human rights?

This is like a badly written soap opera.

Perhaps K. Na Kakorn should change his name to Na Lakorn.

[chantorn]

Taken from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs special page on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Thailand's Human Rights Commitments and Pledges

His face is so sweet you can almost believe what he's saying.

Super super handsome.

[chantorn]

PM: Govt's political stance accepted by international organizations

BANGKOK (NNT) -- The selection of Thai representative as the new President of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) illustrates that the international body has good understanding of Thailand's political situation, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva says.

Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Thailand to the United Nations and other organizations in Geneva, Sihasak Phuangketkeowwho has been selected as the new President of the UNHRC, voted by 47 member states.

As elaborated by the Prime Minister, no declarations of the US government, European Unions and ASEAN condemn the government's work. Understandings have rather been voiced along with the calls for transparency.

Moreover, Mr Abhisit said that the government is willing to accept claims and suggestions by the NGOs such as Amnesty International and will forward the suggestions to the investigative committee led by former Attorney General Kanit Na Nakorn that is in charge of clarifying the suspicions.

Following self-exiled ex Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's attempt to damage the country by hiring a new lobbyist Robert Amsterdam, Mr Abhisit stated his understanding toward Mr Thaksin's propose, reasoning that everyone tended to use certain network to defend themselves, same as Thai people who use online social networks and other sources to defend the country's reputation.

-- NNT 2010-06-23

I wonder if former Attorney General Kanit Na Nakorn have a say in this?