Premium Dog Food In Thailand

[HuaHin2010]

Hi all

I have a 15 week old American Pit Bull Terrier. I currently feed her Eukenuba large breed puppy I could not get my hands on medium breed (2600 THB for 20 Kilos). Mornings I mix with scramble eggs and egg shells. Lunchtime I mix with broccoli, cauliflower and dinner I add just a small amount of Pedigree Chum to add a little gravy taste to the food.

Its not working out that well. Her poops are not solid and she farts all the time.

I am looking to buy premium dog food but down here in Hua Hin it is not available. Does anyone know any places in Bangkok where I can buy premium imported dog food? I dont care how much I just want to give her the best. Brand suggestions would be appreciated. Eukenuba is supposed to be premium but it dosent seem to be working out to well. Also it has corn in the ingredients which is not to great for this breed of dog.

Science Diet, despite the hype, is not too great for dogs. Its advertised as one of the best premium foods but realy its no better than tinned Pedigree Chum.

Many thanks

HH

[JohnLeech]

I have not used them for a while, and their web-site does not seem to be working, but I have bought a number of things from ShamuShamu, based in Bangkok, who are specialist mail order suppliers for dog and cat owners and have a very good selection of dog food. I noticed their quarterly magazine in the news agents recently, so they must still be in business.

The contact numbers for them according to the internet are 02 212 9172 in Bangkok and 076 217 329 in Phuket , e-mail: //removed as per forum rules//

Try boiled egg instead of scrambled. I have never used Eukanuba so you should check the bag's label to see if you are actually correct to add broccoli, etc and if it is suitable for a young puppy; most dry foods recommend that once a dog is eating the food you should no longer mix it, add gravy, etc.

[HuaHin2010]

I have not used them for a while, and their web-site does not seem to be working, but I have bought a number of things from ShamuShamu, based in Bangkok, who are specialist mail order suppliers for dog and cat owners and have a very good selection of dog food. I noticed their quarterly magazine in the news agents recently, so they must still be in business.

The contact numbers for them according to the internet are 02 212 9172 in Bangkok and 076 217 329 in Phuket , e-mail: //removed as per forum rules//

Try boiled egg instead of scrambled. I have never used Eukanuba so you should check the bag's label to see if you are actually correct to add broccoli, etc and if it is suitable for a young puppy; most dry foods recommend that once a dog is eating the food you should no longer mix it, add gravy, etc.

Thanks John, appreciate the feedback. Yah I did indeed make a mistake when I began mixing.... Now she will only eat the dry food if it is mixed with something. Ill try calling the shop tommorow, thanks for the suggestion.

[alfieconn]

Premium dog food can be obtained at all your local food stores such as Tesco's etc and your local market, it's called raw chicken, pork,fish (mackeral), offal etc.

Try googling "raw prey model" and reading up on this, i'm sure you'll be surprised at the benefits.

Here's a link for you http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Food_Diet/thread/511303

Edited July 7, 2010 by alfieconn

[chrgrims]

alfie is correct, fresh food is great for dogs. we mix that with premium dog food we buy from a private seller, chicken soup is the brand. PM me if you want more info. AND, i am not affiliated with them, its just what i use.

[skybluestu]

I have a 16mnth old female Rottweiler and tried her with all the 'premium' foods but now she's on the prey diet and has never been happier/healthier. A 1kg packet of meat from Makro varies from 17-25 baht depending on the type ie chicken, beef, liver and I mix it with brown rice.

When she was eating the premium foods she often wouldn't finish her food and her faeces was very sloppy and smelly, now she cleans her bowl every time and her poop is much more manageable and doesn't smell anywhere near as bad, she also goes less.

Do her (and your wallet) a favour and give this a try.

[alfieconn]

I have a 16mnth old female Rottweiler and tried her with all the 'premium' foods but now she's on the prey diet and has never been happier/healthier. A 1kg packet of meat from Makro varies from 17-25 baht depending on the type ie chicken, beef, liver and I mix it with brown rice.

When she was eating the premium foods she often wouldn't finish her food and her faeces was very sloppy and smelly, now she cleans her bowl every time and her poop is much more manageable and doesn't smell anywhere near as bad, she also goes less.

Do her (and your wallet) a favour and give this a try.

I think you will find that the packet stuff that you buy from makro is not classified as The raw prey diet, especially at that price, the cheapest raw food is chicken at about 60 baht per kilo:o .

[skybluestu]

I have a 16mnth old female Rottweiler and tried her with all the 'premium' foods but now she's on the prey diet and has never been happier/healthier. A 1kg packet of meat from Makro varies from 17-25 baht depending on the type ie chicken, beef, liver and I mix it with brown rice.

When she was eating the premium foods she often wouldn't finish her food and her faeces was very sloppy and smelly, now she cleans her bowl every time and her poop is much more manageable and doesn't smell anywhere near as bad, she also goes less.

Do her (and your wallet) a favour and give this a try.

I think you will find that the packet stuff that you buy from makro is not classified as The raw prey diet, especially at that price, the cheapest raw food is chicken at about 60 baht per kilo:o .

What???!!! Classified by who exactly? And what's price got to do with it? The meat is raw meat that is not considered fit for human consumption and comes from abbatoirs. It is 100% raw meat, innards, sinew, bones etc and when mixed together with brown rice and ocassionally eggs it is a perfectly healthy meal for any dog. The whole point of the raw prey diet is to feed dogs similar food that they would eat in the wild while hunting in packs and this food does that.

On a recent visit to the vet he commented on what a fine specimen she was, perfectly healthy and strong and with great teeth, eyes and coat.

[alfieconn]

I have a 16mnth old female Rottweiler and tried her with all the 'premium' foods but now she's on the prey diet and has never been happier/healthier. A 1kg packet of meat from Makro varies from 17-25 baht depending on the type ie chicken, beef, liver and I mix it with brown rice.

When she was eating the premium foods she often wouldn't finish her food and her faeces was very sloppy and smelly, now she cleans her bowl every time and her poop is much more manageable and doesn't smell anywhere near as bad, she also goes less.

Do her (and your wallet) a favour and give this a try.

I think you will find that the packet stuff that you buy from makro is not classified as The raw prey diet, especially at that price, the cheapest raw food is chicken at about 60 baht per kilo:o .

What???!!! Classified by who exactly? And what's price got to do with it? The meat is raw meat that is not considered fit for human consumption and comes from abbatoirs. It is 100% raw meat, innards, sinew, bones etc and when mixed together with brown rice and ocassionally eggs it is a perfectly healthy meal for any dog. The whole point of the raw prey diet is to feed dogs similar food that they would eat in the wild while hunting in packs and this food does that.

On a recent visit to the vet he commented on what a fine specimen she was, perfectly healthy and strong and with great teeth, eyes and coat.

Sorry old chap didn't mean to offend you and wasn't infering that you don't do the best for your dog.

While i understand what you are saying IE raw prey model is parts of different animals and thats what you are buying, i have always thought the raw prey model consisted of whole pieces of meat or organs and me myself prefer to buy it this way so i know exactly what my dog is getting.

At the end of the day as long as your dog is fit and healthy thats all that matters.

[Nienke]

Sorry, skyblustu, I go with Alfieconn on this one.

Considering that a chicken carcass without the meat on the market is about 20 baht a kilo, whole chicken around 50 baht (in a shop on the Muang Mai market in CM), soft buffalo beef bones/tripes/lungs/tissue-with-some-meat/trachea/thyroid/testicles/small-intestines etc. 80 baht a kilo, red buffalo meat 130 baht a kilo, buffalo liver around that same price, pork liver 65 baht per kilo in the Makro, crocodile scrap meats 90 baht a kilo, minced pork around 100 baht, hen duck 77 baht a kilo, ... etc., you really start wondering what is in those packages of frozen minced-whatever for just 17-25 baht a kilo, which is FAR under the price of the raw (real) material.

And considering that here people eat pretty much all parts of the animals, then there is very little left which is not fit for human consumption. And that's what I would consider "not fit for dog consumption" as well on a daily basis.

Personally I want to know/see what I give to my dogs. And today that was parts of whole duck and some insides.

[JohnLeech]

Sorry, skyblustu, I go with Alfieconn on this one............

Personally I want to know/see what I give to my dogs.

Ditto - in a big way.

I have strong doubts about the Raw Prey diet in general as the basic arguments seem fatally flawed even if you feed them qood quality mixed meat (not something minced and unidentifiable, including hooves and beaks). If you should feed dogs what "they would eat in the wild while hunting in packs" because that is what their ancestors used to eat, then by the same reasoning we would all be healthier by eating what our ancestors used to eat under similar circumstances in the stone age. Personally I think that not only have we developed and changed, particularly physically, and that everything points to our dogs having changed too, but also that our "prey" has changed and domestic meat is radically different from wild meat. Similarly the idea that today's dogs are effectively grey wolves ("Dogs have been shown by geneticists to be a variation of the grey wolf. They differ by 0.2% in the mitochondrial DNA (and I suspect much of this difference has to do with coloring and shape and size") is at best highly debatable and is certainly not supported by the DNA argument - on those grounds humans have similar DNA and are consequently equally similar to bananas!

If tempted to go that way, HH2010, I would at least cook the meat if only because raw meat tends to make dogs smell. If you try to get your dog back on a "dry food" diet, now that she will only eat it mixed, change back little by little, over at least a couple of weeks or a month.

[skybluestu]

I have a 16mnth old female Rottweiler and tried her with all the 'premium' foods but now she's on the prey diet and has never been happier/healthier. A 1kg packet of meat from Makro varies from 17-25 baht depending on the type ie chicken, beef, liver and I mix it with brown rice.

When she was eating the premium foods she often wouldn't finish her food and her faeces was very sloppy and smelly, now she cleans her bowl every time and her poop is much more manageable and doesn't smell anywhere near as bad, she also goes less.

Do her (and your wallet) a favour and give this a try.

I think you will find that the packet stuff that you buy from makro is not classified as The raw prey diet, especially at that price, the cheapest raw food is chicken at about 60 baht per kilo:o .

What???!!! Classified by who exactly? And what's price got to do with it? The meat is raw meat that is not considered fit for human consumption and comes from abbatoirs. It is 100% raw meat, innards, sinew, bones etc and when mixed together with brown rice and ocassionally eggs it is a perfectly healthy meal for any dog. The whole point of the raw prey diet is to feed dogs similar food that they would eat in the wild while hunting in packs and this food does that.

On a recent visit to the vet he commented on what a fine specimen she was, perfectly healthy and strong and with great teeth, eyes and coat.

Sorry old chap didn't mean to offend you and wasn't infering that you don't do the best for your dog.

While i understand what you are saying IE raw prey model is parts of different animals and thats what you are buying, i have always thought the raw prey model consisted of whole pieces of meat or organs and me myself prefer to buy it this way so i know exactly what my dog is getting.

At the end of the day as long as your dog is fit and healthy thats all that matters.

No offence caused, if everyone thought the same then the world would be a boring place! All I know is that the packets of meat that is sold as 'dog food' in Makro is leftovers from abbatoirs, I know quite a few people who feed their dog the same food, also mixed with brown rice, and they said they noticed an improvement in their dogs when they changed to this food too. My Hollie loves it and thrives on it, it seems very meaty with lots of blood when thawed and I know of one guy whose wife even tried it and said it tasted quite nice so it can't be that bad!

Of course I could buy better quality meat for a lot more $ but I have a baby daughter and don't have an infinite amount of $ so will be sticking with the Makro meat.