mazeltov Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Thailand have to take back what is belong to us. Including Angkor Wat. Ok, let's see, Angkor Wat is a HINDU temple dedicated to the Hindu god Vishnu, in Angkor, Cambodia, built in the early 12th century for King Survavarman II, a Khmer King. So how is you think it belongs to Thailand???? Oh, I know, you learned in the wonderful Thai school system that it was built by Thai, and therefore belongs to them, right???? Allover Europe people were busy for centuries to build temples for a bizarre cult, worshiping that dude on the cross, INRI, Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum. "Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews". And these places therefore belongs to who???? Do you know that your counter-argument isn't that much smarter if not dumber specially because you think you are in a position to bitch about the school system someone might have visited. What makes you think the your education was anyhow better? In the 12th century there was no Thailand, but also no Cambodia. I don't know where you come from but i guess also there like all over there world the borders between the then existing realms, empires, kingdoms or territories under the reign of whoever where quite different from todays borders between todays states, nations, countries and so on. So what? did you learn at your school that the 12th century is the point where we have to look into the history to decide if something belong to this country or to that country? What tells you that there is some lineage between the heydays of Angkor and todays Cambodia? Ancient countries are foreign countries. And the Angkor kingdom is gone, the people are dead, the died long, long time ago. todays people have not much to do with them. ancestry and inheritance a myth. Going hundreds of years back in history to claim a territory will not work out, but it will also not work to deny any claim. because there was once a Suryavarman, who build a temple for Vishnu. Trying to belittle Thai people, because their culture roots not in 100% original Thai but borrows, adopt or is influence also by other cultures and claim that all Thai people don't knew it because they don't learn it at school will also not work out. that are ignorant and disrespectful statements. Every nation has its more or less delusional beliefs about heritage that could be easy deconstructed. At the moment some Thai go gaga, showing signs of a nationalistic mania. But if you start to mock all Thai using stereotypes and generalisation you are not much better than the nationalistic blockheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 (edited) Compare the first page of The Pravda Nation - The Bangkok Post and http://www.phnompenhpost.com/ This silly temple story is on the main title in Thailand and just a small news in Cambodia. Does Abisith need a war to win the next polls? Actually when the International Court of Justice ruled on Preah Vihear in 1962 it was not followed up by either Cambodia or Thailand. If you like formal language read http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=284&code=ct&p1=3&p2=3&case=45&k=46&p3=5 Then decide who's wrong or right and why things need to be done, or not to be done. Edited July 29, 2010 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 3 provinces in Cambodia is actually Thailand.The half of Thailand is formerly a part of the Khmer Empire.And the second belongs to Malayans. The real Thailand is hidden somewhere at Lanna (which is, of course, formerly a part of Chinese Empire and built by Chinese escaped from Genghiz Khan's ords invading from the north).Read your own histtory, kiddo. And don't post stupidity. Including Angkor Wat. Ask any Cambodian and they will tell you Seam Reap means defeat of the Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 "marginal engrish skills" - you can't even spell right. What was wrong with Rucharee? Rucharee could make a argument once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctavianCaesar Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Quote "The prime minister said his government would exercise its right to protest, and did not want to see the dispute develop into a war," Panthep said. He met the yellow-shirt leaders for two hours after about 1,000 PAD supporters rallied outside the Unesco office on Sukhumvit Road despite the emergency decree Now 1,000 red shirt rally about the unfair prices for farmers and the huge profits for the middlemen. I bet you never look in the mirror. Time to take a good hard look at yourself. It's funny Abhisit's double standards; nearly 1,000 PAD in a political gathering despite the emergency decree, but he invites the leaders into his house for tea and scones. This is so funny. What a shameful government, Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctavianCaesar Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Thailand have to take back what is belong to us. Including Angkor Wat. It does not belong to Thailand. It's on someone elses land. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctavianCaesar Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) <deleted> has UNESCO got to do with this? Butt out ... I think they're tryin to mediate and stop a war. What kind of person fears an independant body? Not a good one, for sure. Edited July 30, 2010 by OctavianCaesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctavianCaesar Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) You might want to say that every thing you say applies to the red shirt's also. They were the ones in power who started this fiasco. They started it for the same reason Abhisit carries it on. It looks good to the average Thai pure and simple. One of the things that really gets me is that they imply King Rama v was not aware of what he was doing. What they are saying in a nice polite way is he was a idiot and didn't know what was going on. What you talking about? What did the 'red shirts' start when they were in power? Do you mean the Samak government who did nothing else but agreed and support the Cambodian bid to getting that temple listed as World Heritage Site. Then Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama was attacked by Democrats in the parliament and by the PAD on the street for signing a deal with Cambodia. The Democrats started a censure motion over this. The constitutional court found that Noppadon as FM has violated the constitution because the signing the deal with Cambodia was only a cabinet decision without holding a parliamentary debate over it. Without the ultra nationalistic rabble-rousing by the Democrats and the PAD there wouldn't be a problem. LOLYou know, when the now foreign minister (Kasit) invaded the airport with his yellow belly buddies, he vowed on stage to the PAD, due to the temple dispute, to wash his feet with the blood of Hun Sen. I do not have faith he has the necessary skills required to be foreign minister. Edited July 30, 2010 by OctavianCaesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I do not have faith he has the necessary skills required to be foreign minister. It's reprehensible that they failed to consult with you regarding your own personal preferences for the Cabinet, but I'm sure when the next government is formed, they will not repeat the same mistake and will anxiously await your choices to be faxed to them to which they will hurriedly approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctavianCaesar Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It's reprehensible that they failed to consult with you regarding your own personal preferences for the Cabinet, but I'm sure when the next government is formed, they will not repeat the same mistake and will anxiously await your choices to be faxed to them to which they will hurriedly approve. How can a Foreign Minister be charged with the respectible task of negotiating with a foreign country in which he's previously pledged to criminal supporters to wash his feet with the blood of the Prime Minister of that country?It's people like me who's support they need to verify their legitimacy, actually. It'd be called an election and it's reasons like this that this government refuses to hold one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanDobsky Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 You might want to say that every thing you say applies to the red shirt's also. They were the ones in power who started this fiasco. They started it for the same reason Abhisit carries it on. It looks good to the average Thai pure and simple. One of the things that really gets me is that they imply King Rama v was not aware of what he was doing. What they are saying in a nice polite way is he was a idiot and didn't know what was going on. What you talking about? What did the 'red shirts' start when they were in power? Do you mean the Samak government who did nothing else but agreed and support the Cambodian bid to getting that temple listed as World Heritage Site. Then Foreign Minister Noppadon Pattama was attacked by Democrats in the parliament and by the PAD on the street for signing a deal with Cambodia. The Democrats started a censure motion over this. The constitutional court found that Noppadon as FM has violated the constitution because the signing the deal with Cambodia was only a cabinet decision without holding a parliamentary debate over it. Without the ultra nationalistic rabble-rousing by the Democrats and the PAD there wouldn't be a problem. casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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