Extension Of Stay (Thai Wife) New Requirements

[HAL9000]

The certificate is indeed 3 but that alone is not accepted now and they want both the certificate and the copy of ledger entry which is 2 and until recently was not provided to those who marry but can be obtained for the asking.

Okay. That clears it up.

So that just leaves the 22, family registration, as only relevant to the original poster's case of being married abroad first, which covers any children as well.

[HAL9000]

Currently the normal anticipated wait is 30 days but it can vary depending on availability of committee members to meet and approve applications (as well as getting any missing information from packets).

I didn't realize that this was done by committee, or even out of the applying office.

With the work load they have, I can imagine that they can't afford to spend very long looking at any one application.

They must be screening for certain things they want to filter out.

I wonder what their priorities are.

[lopburi3]

A valid marriage; just as any immigration in the world is looking for.

[Arkady]

The police seem to be having a "crack down" on foreign criminals hanging out in Thailand using documentation of Thai wives or girlfriends to rent or buy property and start businesses. I wouldn't be surprised to see more more tightening of the regulations for extension based on marriage. For those not yet in the system I would think that registering the marriage in Thailand is the way to go.

[nosatisfaction]

One option. Go to the local Thai Gov. Office and register your marriage in Thailand. One hour, said and done. If you think about it, there will be far less hassles, present and in the future, if you have that Thai Gov. issued document.

PS. The Thai immigration wants to see ALL documentation in Thai, or a certified translation into Thai.

This is precisely the point of my question. This document is the KOR ROR.22.

From my discussion with immigration (who do not issue this document but requires it), here is what would be required:

- copy / translation of my passport, certified by embassy and stamped by Ministry of Foreign Affair

- copy / translation of the marriage certificate (from abroad), certified by embassy and stamped by Ministry of Foreign Affair

- copy of ID card of Madam

Anything missing?

Hello,

the KOR ROR 22 is a declaration you are both single/divorced with name of the parents at the time of the marriadge. Only obtainable in Thailand.

ID Card is not anough in Thailand, you nee a copy of her House ID.

hope this helps.

Edited August 9, 2010 by Mario2008
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[asiawatcher]

Similar to The Snark - same issue for me - married 6 years, two sprockets, Thai company - 10M paid up capital, have an APEC Card and have been here more than 10 years, kids in school, employ a plethora of Thai's and never an issue until last year - now they want bank accounts, photos of the office, birth certificates of the kids <deleted>. Farang are never really wanted here and the legitimate ones like myself (as opposed to the dumba** sex tourists who think they have fallen in love with bar girls) seem to be tarred and feathered by the same brush. But as has been advised already - you CAN register a marriage (make sure you have photos etc) at the local Amphur Office and a Thai marriage takes precedence over any foreign marriage. It is what 'they' understand. Sometimes it is easier to have the Thai marriage than try to explain and jump through all the hoops required to prove legitimacy. Good luck either way.

[lopburi3]

You can not have a Thai marriage if you are already married. The prime paperwork for marriage in Thailand is from your Embassy proving you are not married. If you have a foreign marriage you are not getting married here - you are just filing the paperwork proving that marriage.

[singa-traz]

I checked with Immigration and they will accept the certified copy of the Kor Ror 22 delivered by the amphur.

Immigration was expecting to see an original document, with a nice red stamp, but will be ok with the certified copy.

He kindly reminded us about the pictures.

I just wish they could deliver a 3 or 5 years extension, for those who have done it for 2-3 years.

Would reduce everyone unnecessary workload.

[Tracechain]

In Thailand the form number would be in the top right corner, the wedding certificate has a number at the back of the certificate.

Yours might be different as it is not issued by an amphur but an embassy. They might have their own forms. Also did you marry at the embassy or did you register your Korean marriage at the embassy? That might make a difference too. But haven't seen any wedding certificate by an embassy, so I don't know.

Thanks much. Just for general info, after the US Embassy certificate of me being single and her obtaining same from Thai gov't, the Thai embassy gave us the registration of marriage. We did not have to go through Koean channels nor get the US marriage certificate. Don't know if this will come back to haunt us or not, guess I'll find out.

[Mario2008]

It is my understanding that if you marry for instance in the UK at a Thai embassy, the British government would not recognize that marriage. only Thailand would recognize that marriage, as it was not done according to the law of the country you where in. But i can't point you towards a rule and I'm not sure about this.

But as said you have a legal Thai marriage at the least.

[tutsiwarrior]

I've got a dumb question. As I previously stated from earlier post, we got our marriage registration certificate in Korea from the Thai Embassy. Also got another piece of paper saying marriage registration. It was a photo copy but had original stamps and signature. I'm used to US Government forms with the form number usually listed in the lower left hand corner. For the life of me, I don't see any kind of K.R. 2 or anything on either of the forms the Thai Embassy gave us. Are there in fact identifying form numbers listed on these forms? If so, wonder what I have?

my wife and I were married at the Royal Thai Embassy in Abu Dhabi and we have a document issued by them entitled 'Certificate of the Registration of Marrage'; it has a garuda on the top of the sheet and also has a 'Registration Number'. There is no form number appearing anywhere on the sheet. This document was accepted by the Ayutthaya immigration office for a marriage extension without any other marriage documentation, kor sor, etc...

we attempted to 'register' this document at the amphur for purposes of obtaining the kor sor document should it be required at immigration for the extension application. The person at the amphur told her that our marriage was already registered as indicated on the document but he did not issue anything to us to confirm this. Presumably the document issued at the embassy should be enough in all cases where proof of registration is required.

Presumably...

[Tracechain]

I've got a dumb question. As I previously stated from earlier post, we got our marriage registration certificate in Korea from the Thai Embassy. Also got another piece of paper saying marriage registration. It was a photo copy but had original stamps and signature. I'm used to US Government forms with the form number usually listed in the lower left hand corner. For the life of me, I don't see any kind of K.R. 2 or anything on either of the forms the Thai Embassy gave us. Are there in fact identifying form numbers listed on these forms? If so, wonder what I have?

my wife and I were married at the Royal Thai Embassy in Abu Dhabi and we have a document issued by them entitled 'Certificate of the Registration of Marrage'; it has a garuda on the top of the sheet and also has a 'Registration Number'. There is no form number appearing anywhere on the sheet. This document was accepted by the Ayutthaya immigration office for a marriage extension without any other marriage documentation, kor sor, etc...

we attempted to 'register' this document at the amphur for purposes of obtaining the kor sor document should it be required at immigration for the extension application. The person at the amphur told her that our marriage was already registered as indicated on the document but he did not issue anything to us to confirm this. Presumably the document issued at the embassy should be enough in all cases where proof of registration is required.

Presumably...

Thank you for your reply. Sounds like we have the exact same documentation. I'll find out next year when I finally 'attempt' to go live in my wife's house that I paid for! Thanks again.

[HAL9000]

I suppose it depends on the country you are from. The US recognizes legal marriages performed in Thailand.

[beddhist]

But as has been advised already - you CAN register a marriage (make sure you have photos etc)

We don't have any photos, as we got married in the registry office in NZ. Can we still register the marriage in Thailand?

Cheers,

Peter.

[Mario2008]

But as has been advised already - you CAN register a marriage (make sure you have photos etc)

We don't have any photos, as we got married in the registry office in NZ. Can we still register the marriage in Thailand?

Cheers,

Peter.

Yes, you have to get your marriage certificate certified by your embassy and than translated and than certified by the Thai foreign ministry. Next you go to an amphur to you marriage recorded in the Thai register. Make sure to get a copy of the entry into the wedding register (Khor Ror 2 form), immigration now asks for this.

Now you can ask for an extension of stay from immigration. The photo's you need for this need to show you are living together. Normally a few inside the house and 1 outside the house of you together, with the number plate clearly visible.

[beddhist]

Thanks for clarifying that. By "your embassy" I assume that is the NZ embassy, the country where we got married, rather than the German embassy (I'm German). The rest is now crystal clear, I've read all over the forums.

All this info should be on the front page, but that doesn't seem to get updated much.

Regards,

Peter.