True Hi Speed Internet

[Billion]

50 Mbps, anyone tried this ultra hi speed connections!

Ultra Hi Speed

[spacemunk]

5600thb for 50mbps internet and you wont even see half of that speed

[jfchandler]

I haven't seen any report here on TV of anyone who's yet actually using either the 30 or the 50 Mbit plans from True in very limited areas of BKK.

[wintermute]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

[trogers]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

[spacemunk]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

then what is the point of ISP's rolling out even 100MB lines for home usage?

[kudroz]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

Most times I download something it's either software, software updates and movies/music/podcasts I download off of iTunes store. All of those are generally hosted on CDNs and will push the content to me at 50mbps if I have the connection.

[trogers]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

then what is the point of ISP's rolling out even 100MB lines for home usage?

Because there will always be a guy who wants it, like buying a Ferrari in Singapore where roads are limited to 90km/h tops...

And the other side of the coin, look at the tinny upload speed that comes with the huge download speed...

[trogers]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

Most times I download something it's either software, software updates and movies/music/podcasts I download off of iTunes store. All of those are generally hosted on CDNs and will push the content to me at 50mbps if I have the connection.

How many such downloads do you pay for in a day, consuming several GB of harddisk within 24 hours?

[kudroz]

How many such downloads do you pay for in a day, consuming several GB of harddisk within 24 hours?

I pay for about 1 TV show per day give or take - roughly $2.99 or $1.99 depending if I get the SD or HD version. One episode has an average of 700MB. I rent a few movies per week when there are interesting stuff. One movie in HD can be anywhere from 3GB to 4.5GB depending on the length. Video podcasts (free) are about 350-500MB each and I will download maybe one a day. I know my wife downloads some as well.

Here's a screenshot of 83.43GB of paid TV shows on iTunes to give you an idea.

[spacemunk]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

then what is the point of ISP's rolling out even 100MB lines for home usage?

Because there will always be a guy who wants it, like buying a Ferrari in Singapore where roads are limited to 90km/h tops...

And the other side of the coin, look at the tinny upload speed that comes with the huge download speed...

Yeah true...and look at all the ferrari's getting burned in singapore

[trogers]

How many such downloads do you pay for in a day, consuming several GB of harddisk within 24 hours?

I pay for about 1 TV show per day give or take - roughly $2.99 or $1.99 depending if I get the SD or HD version. One episode has an average of 700MB. I rent a few movies per week when there are interesting stuff. One movie in HD can be anywhere from 3GB to 4.5GB depending on the length. Video podcasts (free) are about 350-500MB each and I will download maybe one a day. I know my wife downloads some as well.

Here's a screenshot of 83.43GB of paid TV shows on iTunes to give you an idea.

I would say a 16 Mbps line would be appropriate for your usage, provided you are located within 300m from the ISP's DSLAM.

[jfchandler]

I think you guys are missing the point a bit...

The point is not what can or could you do with a 50 Mbit connection, because none of us likely have much use for that inside Thailand.

The point COULD be, if one is willing to pay True's pretty steep price for these two packages, that they might be appreciably faster for international connections than the top 16 Mbit package True now offers at large.

For example, my True 8 Mbit premium package in BKK usually tops out at 1 to 2 Mbits for single thread international connections to the U.S. So I'm getting 15-25% of my package's rated speed for international connections...

If I had the 30 Mbit package, by comparison, would I still get a 15-25% speed performance to the U.S. If so, that would be 7-8Mbits internationally, which certainly would be useful and have some impact. Then apply the same ratios to the 50 Mbit package.

Problem is, because nobody's reported on it as yet, we really don't know what kind of international performance these plans are going to have. Frankly, given the international bandwidth and congestion at present, I don't think True can really up the ante much here.... But that's just guessing.

If it's 3000 to 5000 baht per month for 30 or 50 Mbits...and still 1-2 Mbits to the U.S., then of course, that's B.S. But who really knows???

[samtam]

Is it worth upgrading from 3 mbits to 8 mbits, or are the constraints on international speeds unlikely to provide anything faster in Thailand?

[kudroz]

How many such downloads do you pay for in a day, consuming several GB of harddisk within 24 hours?

I pay for about 1 TV show per day give or take - roughly $2.99 or $1.99 depending if I get the SD or HD version. One episode has an average of 700MB. I rent a few movies per week when there are interesting stuff. One movie in HD can be anywhere from 3GB to 4.5GB depending on the length. Video podcasts (free) are about 350-500MB each and I will download maybe one a day. I know my wife downloads some as well.

Here's a screenshot of 83.43GB of paid TV shows on iTunes to give you an idea.

I would say a 16 Mbps line would be appropriate for your usage, provided you are located within 300m from the ISP's DSLAM.

I can do fine with a 16mbps for sure - even less. Like I could do with only 5 power points or only 1 TV. But for convenience sakes I like to have more. 50mbps could mean downloading and installing Star Craft II in an hour instead of 10. It could mean downloading Final Fantasy XI updates in 5 minutes instead of 50.

I don't need a sustained 50mbps line, but I like the convenience of bursting to 50mbps once in a while

[trogers]

I think you guys are missing the point a bit...

The point is not what can or could you do with a 50 Mbit connection, because none of us likely have much use for that inside Thailand.

The point COULD be, if one is willing to pay True's pretty steep price for these two packages, that they might be appreciably faster for international connections than the top 16 Mbit package True now offers at large.

For example, my True 8 Mbit premium package in BKK usually tops out at 1 to 2 Mbits for single thread international connections to the U.S. So I'm getting 15-25% of my package's rated speed for international connections...

If I had the 30 Mbit package, by comparison, would I still get a 15-25% speed performance to the U.S. If so, that would be 7-8Mbits internationally, which certainly would be useful and have some impact. Then apply the same ratios to the 50 Mbit package.

Problem is, because nobody's reported on it as yet, we really don't know what kind of international performance these plans are going to have. Frankly, given the international bandwidth and congestion at present, I don't think True can really up the ante much here.... But that's just guessing.

If it's 3000 to 5000 baht per month for 30 or 50 Mbits...and still 1-2 Mbits to the U.S., then of course, that's B.S. But who really knows???

If you look at the submarine cables linking this part of the world to the US, international speed will definitely be limited during peak periods, more so when various countries are selling 100 Mbps lines for home use... I doubt the total bandwidth capacity of all the submarine cables can give you a clear signal through without signals queuing. It is this queuing, and the fact that commercial traffic is given priority, that the speed of your home line to the States is a fraction of your paid bandwidth.

If you want priority, pay for a business line.

[jfchandler]

I think the answer to your question depends on a lot of factors...

--What ISP are you using, and/or what ISPs are available where you live?

--How close are you to their switch, and how's the quality of the wiring into your home?

--How do you use the Internet, or in other words, for what purpose(s) do you want/need the speed?

I know in my case in central BKK, I noticed a noticeable improvement when I upgraded from True's 4 Mbit to 8 Mbit premium service... And the way I noticed it was for using streaming video from the U.S., which is what I use/need the speed for. I found I was getting far less stalls for buffering and such than before with the 4 Mbit plan.

But for day-to-day routine Internet use, looking at web sites, checking email, etc etc, I can't say there'd really be much of a difference. So again, it depends on your use and interests.

Another change I made based on a suggestion offered here on TV in another thread, which also seemed to make a noticeable improvement, was installing and running a free utility program to optimize my PC's Internet connectivity settings. That program was SpeedGuide.net's TCP Optimizer. I read a lot about it online before trying it, just to make sure there weren't any hidden issues, and everything came back fine. It allows people to finetune their TCP settings, but also has an Optimize button to adjust your settings based on basic info you provide, so you don't need to be a tech geek to use it. It also allows you to back up and restore your original settings, in case anything goes wrong...

Is it worth upgrading from 3 mbits to 8 mbits, or are the constraints on international speeds unlikely to provide anything faster in Thailand?

[trogers]

Another change I made based on a suggestion offered here on TV in another thread, which also seemed to make a noticeable improvement, was installing and running a free utility program to optimize my PC's Internet connectivity settings. That program was SpeedGuide.net's TCP Optimizer. I read a lot about it online before trying it, just to make sure there weren't any hidden issues, and everything came back fine. It allows people to finetune their TCP settings, but also has an Optimize button to adjust your settings based on basic info you provide, so you don't need to be a tech geek to use it. It also allows you to back up and restore your original settings, in case anything goes wrong...

Been a member of Speedguide.net since Jan 1995. Used the Optimizer to tweaked XP, and now they have the latest version to tweak Win 7.

They also have a forum on Broadband tweaks should you find little improvement after using the Optimizer. Sometimes, the slowness may be due to other factors, like bad signals or line, and members in the forum can assist in locating and suggest rectifications.

[senti]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

Hah. Ok, this is quite a good troll.

Because you couldn't be serious...

[tommyboy928]

DOES someone have 16 mb download here in Patong or does someone have TRUE INTERNET down here at all in Phuket , and have someone tested speed up to Europe up and download and ping ?

[mommysboy]

One major issue with unTRUE is the line quality. I have a 6mb line, but when I test the quality it comes out grade 'D". Thus, sometimes I can barely access major sites. So unstable. I doubt whether a 10, 20, 50, or 5000 Mb line would change much.

[negreanu]

Previous thread. 50mb does work...

My link

[astral]

I bet it's only 50 MB domestic speeds then when you hit international you realize your bandwidth is throttled and capped to sh*t. Since there's absolutely nothing in Thailand that justifies 50mb domestic speeds this is pretty worthless.

First of all, how many web servers are out there in the worldwide web that will upload to you at 50 Mbps on a one-to-one connection? Even domestic websites?

Such a big pipeline is only useful for a large network of computers, and not a couple of comps in a home network.

It depends on what you do.

I agree that one web site is unlikely to be able to support a single connection at that speed.

However I have a seedbox with 100Mb/s (Megabits) or 12MB/s (Megabytes)of bandwidth

and as I write the uplink is running at 16Mb/s supporting multiple leechers

along with 1Mb/s of seeding at the same time.

Needless to say this is not in LOS.