geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It would appear, that as of yesterday, TOT are blocking all torrent traffic in Thailand. I hope this isn't permanent, but if it's because their equipment has broken down, it's taking a long time to put right. A forum I use on another web site was gone crazy with posts from people all over Thailand, so it's not just local to my area..... START PHONING TOT AND COMPLAINING !! geoffphuket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcodes Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) This had to happen. It probably a good thing. You'll "hopefully" see performance of voip, web mail, etc.. improve. Torrents are drain especially since most peers exists outside of TOT, if you look at an average torrent drainer using a steady 1mbit the economics just dont make sense. I cant even buy full transit routes on 1000mbit commits for < 550baht/mbit (or anywhere near that). So hopefully TOT stop, separate, or traffic shape them. Ideally I'd like to see torrent drainer pay a massive premium. Part ignorance for most windoze users as the systray hides the little U, but wow imagine how fast the internet would be in Thailand without torrent drainers. Ends rant. Edited August 11, 2010 by mattcodes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 This had to happen. It probably a good thing. You'll "hopefully" see performance of voip, web mail, etc.. improve. Torrents are drain especially since most peers exists outside of TOT, if you look at an average torrent drainer using a steady 1mbit the economics just dont make sense. I cant even buy full transit routes on 1000mbit commits for < 550baht/mbit (or anywhere near that). So hopefully TOT stop, separate, or traffic shape them. Ideally I'd like to see torrent drainer pay a massive premium. Part ignorance for most windoze users as the systray hides the little U, but wow imagine how fast the internet would be in Thailand without torrent drainers. Ends rant. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you are very much in the minority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It would appear, that as of yesterday, TOT are blocking all torrent traffic in Thailand. Why did it appear that way? I have it on good authority that torrent traffic in Thailand wasn't blocked yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcodes Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This had to happen. It probably a good thing. You'll "hopefully" see performance of voip, web mail, etc.. improve. Torrents are drain especially since most peers exists outside of TOT, if you look at an average torrent drainer using a steady 1mbit the economics just dont make sense. I cant even buy full transit routes on 1000mbit commits for < 550baht/mbit (or anywhere near that). So hopefully TOT stop, separate, or traffic shape them. Ideally I'd like to see torrent drainer pay a massive premium. Part ignorance for most windoze users as the systray hides the little U, but wow imagine how fast the internet would be in Thailand without torrent drainers. Ends rant. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you are very much in the minority I suspect I am. But the reality is it is just not financially sustainable to ISP in SE Asia to provide any reasonable level of performance to Torrents - especially those where most peers will exist outside of Thailand for the type of downloads most popular. The result is degraded performance for everyone and further congestion. The only reason I believe that traffic shaping or blocking has been weak with Torrents is the cost involved in deep packet inspection hardware especially when the client/trackers evolve the protocol relatively frequently (encryption etc...). Someone has to pay.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 It would appear, that as of yesterday, TOT are blocking all torrent traffic in Thailand. Why did it appear that way? I have it on good authority that torrent traffic in Thailand wasn't blocked yesterday. So you can still download from TOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Head Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Nothing for me since yesterday either Going to phone and complain right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Out of interest, can anyone NOT on TOT still download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammycic Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Out of interest, can anyone NOT on TOT still download? Yes no problems with tt&t but a little bit up & down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2oDunc Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 On TOT and down loading fine without any problems. It appears TOT are not as you say stopping torrents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Out of interest, can anyone NOT on TOT still download? Yes no problems with tt&t but a little bit up & down. That's good news. I hope it stays that way for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 On TOT and down loading fine without any problems. It appears TOT are not as you say stopping torrents. Interesting. Where in Thailand are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Head Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 still nothing on TOT in CM I get a yellow caution sign at the botton of U-Torrent that says "no network connection" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geovalin Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Out of interest, can anyone NOT on TOT still download? TRUE is still friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteinbkk31 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm in Bangkok .... and on TOT Thebox = not working Uknova = working but slow eztv = not working I've only just joined TOT so will be pissed if they are blocking torrents, can't get True where I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Can we hear from others on TOT? I'd like to know if it's affecting all provinces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) Two threads running, maybe a Moderator could merge or close one? Same problem for me (TOT Bangkok), started yesterday. It seems to be a TOT issue. I can log in to trackers (public and private) on TRUE and CSLoxInfo, and on multiple PCs and download and upload torrents at wirespeed. I've tried several solutions (encryption, external DNS servers) without success. Edited August 11, 2010 by lomatopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm in Bangkok .... and on TOT Thebox = not working Uknova = working but slow eztv = not working I've only just joined TOT so will be pissed if they are blocking torrents, can't get True where I am I use TheBox all the time and I'm well pissed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wontok Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Not working in Roi Et since late yesterday. Our TOT phone is also playing up. I can still upload at full speed though - and download through public trackers using peer exchange (not that I know what that means, but it appears in the list of trackers in uTorrent - all trackers timed out but a number of seeders identified through peer exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Valentine Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 On TOT, and no trackers connect since last night. On my way to the nearest True office to change providers. TOT has played too many games with me in the last Year. Enough is Enough. Even in case this turns out to be a glitch (I seriously doubt they have the expertise to block torrents, judging by the way their net and routes and all is configured), it is the one glitch too many I experienced with this Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 H2oDunc says he's no problem downloading loading from TOT, but hasn't replied to my question asking where he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I've tried a number of workarounds all without success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Valentine Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Seems trackers with udp instead of http are working, so most likely a glitch, or another example of TOT competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderleghead Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This had to happen. It probably a good thing. You'll "hopefully" see performance of voip, web mail, etc.. improve. Torrents are drain especially since most peers exists outside of TOT, if you look at an average torrent drainer using a steady 1mbit the economics just dont make sense. I cant even buy full transit routes on 1000mbit commits for < 550baht/mbit (or anywhere near that). So hopefully TOT stop, separate, or traffic shape them. Ideally I'd like to see torrent drainer pay a massive premium. Part ignorance for most windoze users as the systray hides the little U, but wow imagine how fast the internet would be in Thailand without torrent drainers. Ends rant. other countries do not seem to have this much of a problem, maybe if the big brothers in this country sorted their shit out then there would be more available bandwidth. EG. the 3G bullshit. if the country invested more in infrastructure development than taking the paid premiums to buy new houses and fast cars, then maybe, maybe there would be sufficient bandwidth for people who pay for their bandwidth to get all of it and to all the torrenting they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Can all those affected get on the phone NOW and start complaining to TOT. If nobody does anything we'll be stuck with the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vediovis Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) I know there s a bandwidth problem for Internet data outside of Thailand as the number of backbones is limited. More, I know torrent uses an incredible amount of bandwidth for data mostly located outside of the country. Most of the torrent users download illegal things. I regularly ask myself why some people have the need to crash the quality of service for all the other users when they are in a country where the whole DVD is at 100 Bt in the local market with perfect quality. I pay my Internet connection like the others and I want to have my Skype strong enough to talk to people in Europe. I want also my websites to display faster on my browser, and youtube videos to be more reactive. I make normal usage of my connection and I expect it to work fine. But the quality of my connection is scrapped by torrent users who use all the bandwidth in my area, and reduce the amount of available bandwidth for data located outside of the country. In these conditions, I don't want to be located to the same router or backbone than torrent/donkey users. This is the reason why I'm not with TT&T as you have to share your connection with your neighbors and you can't do anything anymore when they start they p2p. I totally agree with TOT decision and I expect it to make my connection working better. Torrent users have to pay more or to have their own network. Or to go to the shop to buy their dvd. Edited August 11, 2010 by vediovis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm in Bangkok .... and on TOT Thebox = not working Uknova = working but slow eztv = not working Are you talking about private trackers or access to the website? All three sites work fine on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteinbkk31 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Sorry all sites work, I was talking about downloading torrents from those sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSaliva Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 H2oDunc says he's no problem downloading loading from TOT, but hasn't replied to my question asking where he is FWIW, I am in BKK and on TOT. Am torrenting 3 files on one computer and 2 on a NAS. All are acting 'normal' in that the download speeds are all over the place. in these cases they are variously .7 KB/s, 145 KB/s, 102 KB/s on the one machine and at present 31 kB/s and 31.5 kB/s on the other. In the latter case the total download speed was just under 280 kB/s about 15 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Working fine on TOT in Ratchaburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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