Suspected Child Sex Ring Uncovered In Gay Porn Busts

[moetownblues]

Same old stories coming out of Pattaya. Does anything nice ever happen there?

[bubba]

Looked up poochai69.com and got this:

Registrant:

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

Domain Name: POOCHAI69.COM

Created on: 08-Jul-08

Expires on: 08-Jul-11

Last Updated on: 02-Aug-10

Administrative Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Technical Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Domain servers in listed order:

NS2267.HOSTGATOR.COM

NS2268.HOSTGATOR.COM

Looks like the site is hosted from servers in the USA. If the site is really hosting child porn, I'd bet the US FBI would be interested.

[radiochaser]

Poochai69 is still there.

Indeed, the content was uploaded again...perhaps on a new server. I didn't look it up properly before, thought the police did the job...properly...

I believe they are on servers in Houston, TX now, at least poochai is.

[Thai at Heart]

Looked up poochai69.com and got this:

Registrant:

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

Domain Name: POOCHAI69.COM

Created on: 08-Jul-08

Expires on: 08-Jul-11

Last Updated on: 02-Aug-10

Administrative Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Technical Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Domain servers in listed order:

NS2267.HOSTGATOR.COM

NS2268.HOSTGATOR.COM

Looks like the site is hosted from servers in the USA. If the site is really hosting child porn, I'd bet the US FBI would be interested.

Are you kidding? "Homo Society Ltd"?

[draftvader]

I've just been checking out the Whois information for these sites and they have had to move their actual NS (physical location) 5 times in 2 years for poochai69 and 12 times in 7 years for dekchai (this indicates that they have been forced to move a lot on poochai (normal is once every 2 years due to finding better deals, etc)). Presently they are being hosted by Hostgator, this is a large-scale shared hosting service operating out of the States. Please just remember when purchasing hosting services that large-scale shared hosting has its pitfalls.

For more information do a quick search on whois.domaintools.com

It would appear that one of these sites is back up and running....haven't the police got enough on these people?

[radiochaser]

Looked up poochai69.com and got this:

Registrant:

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

Domain Name: POOCHAI69.COM

Created on: 08-Jul-08

Expires on: 08-Jul-11

Last Updated on: 02-Aug-10

Administrative Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Technical Contact:

Premier, Keaw

HoMo SoCieTy Limited

220 Jasmin BLDG. Changwatana

Prakkred, Nonthaburi 11120

Thailand

+66.25026900 Fax -- +66.25026900

Domain servers in listed order:

NS2267.HOSTGATOR.COM

NS2268.HOSTGATOR.COM

Looks like the site is hosted from servers in the USA. If the site is really hosting child porn, I'd bet the US FBI would be interested.

And I just found this for poochai: I wonder if someone is working to move thier servers outside of Thailand right now.

POOCHAI69.COM - Domain Information

Domain POOCHAI69.COM [ Site Info Traceroute RBL/DNSBL lookup ]

Registrar GODADDY.COM, INC.

Registrar URL http://registrar.godaddy.com

Whois server whois.godaddy.com

Created 08-Jul-2008

Updated 02-Aug-2010

Expires 08-Jul-2011

Time Left 302 days 20 hours 50 minutes

Status clientDeleteProhibited clientRenewProhibited clientTransferProhibited clientUpdateProhibited

DNS servers NS2267.HOSTGATOR.COM 174.120.234.2

NS2268.HOSTGATOR.COM 174.120.234.3

POOCHAI69.COM - Geo Information

IP Address 174.120.234.5

Host poochai69.com

Location US, United States

City Houston, TX 77002

Organization THEPLANET.COM INTERNET SERVICES

ISP THEPLANET.COM INTERNET SERVICES

AS Number AS21844 ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc.

Latitude 29°75'23" North

Longitude 95°36'70" West

Distance 9815.23 km (6098.90 miles)

Map Location World Map Google Maps Yahoo Maps Microsoft Live Maps

POOCHAI69.COM - Whois Information

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered

with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net

for detailed information.

Domain Name: POOCHAI69.COM

Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.

Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com

Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com

Name Server: NS2267.HOSTGATOR.COM

Name Server: NS2268.HOSTGATOR.COM

Status: clientDeleteProhibited

Status: clientRenewProhibited

Status: clientTransferProhibited

Status: clientUpdateProhibited

Updated Date: 02-aug-2010

Creation Date: 08-jul-2008

Expiration Date: 08-jul-2011

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:08:35 UTC

[animatic]

I've just been checking out the Whois information for these sites and they have had to move their actual NS (physical location) 5 times in 2 years for poochai69 and 12 times in 7 years for dekchai (this indicates that they have been forced to move a lot on poochai (normal is once every 2 years due to finding better deals, etc)). Presently they are being hosted by Hostgator, this is a large-scale shared hosting service operating out of the States. Please just remember when purchasing hosting services that large-scale shared hosting has its pitfalls.

For more information do a quick search on whois.domaintools.com

It would appear that one of these sites is back up and running....haven't the police got enough on these people?

Or they move it around BEFORE it comes up on someones radar.

With this alleged subject matter, not staying long enough for IT hosts to look in seems prudent.

[Samuian]

If "Underage" is an issue, alright then let the law deal with it, if not, let them play... who the heck cares and review the law is in dire need, besides we are in the 21.Century, Adults should enjoy the freedom to do what, with whom they want and how they like, in privacy, the Internet is a different thing, but then, never ever has a website come to my screen unrequested....!

[EODghost]

This happens too often and the police have a full time job arresting them.

More like the Police have a full time job collecting bribes. They've been operating for something like 10 years.

[demerdin]

x - edited by dem

Edited September 8, 2010 by demerdin

[bubba]

Looks like poochai69.com may have indeed already relocated their hosting to theplanet.com. Here is the last line of a traceroute to the domain:

12 11 25 12 174.120.234.5 5.ea.78ae.static.theplanet.com

These guys are fast!

[tyciol]

Media slang is just horrible, do they really need to say 'gay' porn? You'd think a serious issue would warrant the word 'homosexual'?

I was remarking upon your biased speculation of a 'witch hunt' which seems odd since you don't have the evidence.

There's always some degree of bias in all thought or speculation. How would one prove something to be a witch hunt when witch hunt is merely a slang term and has no technical requirements to label something as one?

Edited September 8, 2010 by tyciol

[Huey]

Dekchai means little boy. Why are you defending them??? Do you think it's a website for games???

Because I smell a witch hunt. I don't know yet whether they are guilty of the underage thing or not. I won't be surprised if they are but I can tell you it is common for 30 year old Thai men to call themselves "little boys" if they are of small stature, so I wouldn't read a mere name as enough to convict anybody. I don't like lynch mobs.

Nahh sorry Jing, I don't buy it.

I mean they name their porn website "Little boys" and get nabbed with pornographic images of, surprise surprise, little boys, what is there to defend? Unless of course you like little boys.

And yes, it would be just as vile if it was named little girls and they had little girl porn.

[dudeinthailand]

Disgusting. I am amazed how people with kids could ever even think about doing those type of things. Anger just builds up inside me when I think that someone would take advantage of defenseless children.

[Jingthing]

Nahh sorry Jing, I don't buy it.

I mean they name their porn website "Little boys" and get nabbed with pornographic images of, surprise surprise, little boys, what is there to defend? Unless of course you like little boys.

And yes, it would be just as vile if it was named little girls and they had little girl porn.

This is so typical. You hold back from joining the lynch mob until there is actually any real EVIDENCE provided, and the reactionaries accuse YOU of being a criminal. Witch hunt indeed. On this forum you aren't even allowed to wait for evidence based confirmation of charges before thrown in the same basket with the criminals. Edited September 8, 2010 by Jingthing

[Mitker]

Disgusting.... Anger just builds up inside me when I think that someone would take advantage of defenseless children.

I think it's precisely because they are defenseless that they target them.

Not by weakness or real physical attraction but for enjoying the very cruelty of abusing someone they might feel they totally dominate.

It's an insane primitive behavior you witness in all cases of abuse from pedophilia to torture of prisoners or cruelty toward tied/locked animals.

Disgusting indeed.

Edited September 8, 2010 by Mitker

[OzMick]

Media slang is just horrible, do they really need to say 'gay' porn? You'd think a serious issue would warrant the word 'homosexual'?

I was remarking upon your biased speculation of a 'witch hunt' which seems odd since you don't have the evidence.

There's always some degree of bias in all thought or speculation. How would one prove something to be a witch hunt when witch hunt is merely a slang term and has no technical requirements to label something as one?

"Gay" is used because it's 3 letters instead of 10. Short and clear is the rule. When fashion mogul Gianni Versace was murdered, an Australian country newspaper had the headline "<deleted> Poof Dead" - a neat summary if not particularly sensitive.

[grahamhc]

A point in the OP that has not be referred to:

Mr. Bunphasong’s arrest was directly related to the later arrest of famed Russian musician Mikhail Pletnev.

Read again. I don't pronounce myself on the case at hand, evidence is not presented in press articles but in courts. I was remarking upon your biased speculation of a 'witch hunt' which seems odd since you don't have the evidence.

Maybe the defendant, when sweated at the police station, thought he could shift the blame to a Russian, so named Russian musician Mikhail Pletnev as the only Russian name he knew.

Other threads discuss that Mikhail Pletnev is still on bail as they cannot supply evidence to the "Pedo" charge, which he strenuously denies.

I am not suggesting I know if either are innocent or guilty . That is the job for the jury.

[Jingthing]

Nope. Gay is used because its a standard, sober, part of the language now. It is not media slang, that is absurd. It is not slang at all. Interestingly the news wouldn't qualify straight porn that way, it would just be porn.

"<deleted> Poof Dead" ? OK, that is bloody funny!

Edited September 8, 2010 by Jingthing

[Mitker]

When fashion mogul Gianni Versace was murdered, an Australian country newspaper had the headline "<deleted> Poof Dead" - a neat summary if not particularly sensitive.

Rather offensive, no?

Edited September 8, 2010 by Mitker

[rich54321]

At least its the locals who are involved this time and not just a farrang! That will keep half of this site quiet in itself!!!!

[Huey]

Why is Jing so dead set on calling any of this a witch hunt?

feelings of bigotry all aside for a moment.

Dude, it's a PORN site called "Little Boys" and they were found to have little boys on their site, I mean really? What you want some sort of sympathy for them because they are gay or what?

GMAFB

[Jingthing]

Why is Jing so dead set on calling any of this a witch hunt?

feelings of bigotry all aside for a moment.

Dude, it's a PORN site called "Little Boys" and they were found to have little boys on their site, I mean really? What you want some sort of sympathy for them because they are gay or what?

GMAFB

In my last post, I was clearly referring to your personal attack witch hunt against me for asking for people to wait for more evidence other than a cop saying something was "believed" to be. The witch hunt goes beyond the perps to people who have the nerve to actually suggest to wait for reports about any proof., However I will repeat that Thai men who are small actually DO call themselves little boys. That is a fact, so that name wasn't evidence enough to convict anybody. They likely have more evidence but we haven't actually heard about it yet except for the cartoon report.

Edited September 8, 2010 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

<font size="5">IMHO I think many homosexuals are deviants and perverts so this does not surprise me at all. I stay away from these sickos and that is best.</font> <img src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/annoyed.gif" class="bbc_emoticon" alt="">

Child sex crimes are actually statistically much more prevalent among so called "normal" heterosexuals. So, do you avoid them as well? How's life in your bubble?

[newermonkey]

Sounds like a witch hunt. It's porn, for sure. However, there was no evidence presented about underage stuff, only speculation. I reckon (but don't know of course) that IF they had stronger evidence about the underage aspect of this than they mentioned (using vague language like "believed to be") they would have certainly presented that to the press. It is kind of odd that they publicized the websites though.

No doubt the websites are already blocked,

but this would give some clients time to cover tracks if they can.

Then again they may have the racket sowed up pretty much too.

Sad this whole episode if the child component is proved part of it.

I could care less who has safe sex with whom else,

or if someone wants to see them doing it during or later in video.

But involving children... that is not a line in the sand,

that is a big brick wall, that should fall on anyone doing

such dispicible conduct with children no matter the gender.

No they are not blocked but the latter site has no content, only the Apache info, so it looks like the owner may have deleted the evidence?

Or is PDN making this all up or grossly exaggerating as they have done frequently before?

[Arkady]

It would be extremely naive to believe that any racket of this type could have been operating for 10 years in Pattaya without the full knowledge and participation of senior policemen.

[Arkady]

Why is Jing so dead set on calling any of this a witch hunt?

feelings of bigotry all aside for a moment.

Dude, it's a PORN site called "Little Boys" and they were found to have little boys on their site, I mean really? What you want some sort of sympathy for them because they are gay or what?

GMAFB

In my last post, I was clearly referring to your personal attack witch hunt against me for asking for people to wait for more evidence other than a cop saying something was "believed" to be. The witch hunt goes beyond the perps to people who have the nerve to actually suggest to wait for reports about any proof., However I will repeat that Thai men who are small actually DO call themselves little boys. That is a fact, so that name wasn't evidence enough to convict anybody. They likely have more evidence but we haven't actually heard about it yet except for the cartoon report.

Never heard short Thai guys referring to themselves as "little boys" (what would be the equivalent in Thai anyway?) and they are usually self conscious about their height. Any one can be called a "dek" regardless of age but that usually refers to people of low status like waiters and older "deks" don't usually describe themselves as such. Not sure what you are on about.

[Jingthing]

I totally know what I am talking about! Thai men up until age 30 call themselves BOYS. When they are short, they call themselves little boys. I am talking about in English.

This is silly anyway. The NAME of a website is just a name and whatever it is wouldn't be enough to convict anyone anywhere. It is the content of the website that will dam_n them if the "believed" policeman turns out to be credible.

To repeat this, I have already made it clear that I will not be at all surprised if this crew actually is guilty of the pedo porn charges. It's just that the original report didn't include mention of ANY evidence. That isn't good enough. If they have evidence, it's over. The grey area, this being Thailand, is that legal age porn is ALSO illegal. So you've got multiple layers going on with this case.

Edited September 8, 2010 by Jingthing

[A_Traveller]

On the "boys" [and for that matter "Girls"] point it is really very common for the term to be used affectionately or descriptively, in other words not just by those of negotiable virtue. Indeed, it was not that long ago when the French culture minister [Frédéric Mitterrand] was in trouble for using the term in a book about his exploits in Thailand. It does not automatically mean those below the legal age of consent, and should not be taken as such an indicator on its own. This is not a statement about these sites in the specific, but a reference to the generality.

Regards

Edit typo

Edited September 8, 2010 by A_Traveller

[earthpig]

"Gay" is used because it's 3 letters instead of 10.

that may well be true. but is the term used correctly. or to put it another way:

I'm gay; but, as a group, are homosexuals?

Peer reviewed, academic studies suggested not. The most recent, Zietsch et al, "Sexual Orientation and Psychiatric Vulnerablity: a Twin Study of Neuroticsm and Psychotocism" published in the Archive of Sexual Behaviour (July 2009) has two findings. the first is that standard test result for neuroticsm and psychotism are elevated signficantly in the population of homosexuals as compared to heterosexuals. this result confirms several other studies, including ones that find significantly eleveted rates of clincal depression and suicide in homosexual populations. Much more interesting (well, to me anyway) is the finding in Zietsch of a genetic correlation between sexual orientation and these two mental conditions.

those who practice homosexual apologetics must be congratulated for having absorbed the lessons of goebbels. if the last thing your party is is socialist, by all means name your party the Nationalist Socialist Party. If the last thing you, as a group, are is happy, then by all means call yourself " gay."

It wasnt too far from 1984 that "gay" took on these Orwellian overtones, was it?