CRES Bans Political Rallies In Bangkok, Provinces

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Political Rallies Banned in Bangkok, Provinces

BANGKOK: -- The Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation releases the second announcement on the ban of any political gathering in Bangkok and other provinces to facilitate control of the red-shirt rally on Sunday.

The declaration covers all districts of Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, Nakhon Ratchasima, Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and five districts of Pathum Thani. The five districts are Thanyaburi, Lad Lumkaew , Sam Koke , Lumlukka and Klong Luang .

The ban also covers four districts of Ayutthaya and Nakhon Pathom. These districts include Wangnoi , Bang Pa-in, Bang Sai and Buddha Monthon.

The announcement has been made by army chief General Anupong Paochinda, in his capacity as chairman of the Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation, or CRES.

The move aims to facilitate the work of security officials and keep the red-shirt protests under control this Sunday.

The announcement also prohibits any outdoor use of loudspeakers. Security officials will prosecute anyone who violates restrictions stipulated by the announcement from today onwards.

-- Tan Network 2010-09-18

[TAWP]

"No-one cared"

[oceano]

This mean only them can but not other party can gather in Bangkok right?

Edited September 17, 2010 by oceano

[mca]

The declaration covers all districts of Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, Nakhon Ratchasima, Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and five districts of Pathum Thani.

Bugger! That was one stop shopping for dinner on the way home last time what with all the food vendors plying their trade at the rally site.

[bulmercke]

I wonder how long this current government can get away with a ban on political gatherings. Isn't this supposed to be a democratic society?

An October coup - which will put paid - finally - to this insidious threat to the existing order - is looking more likely as each day passes.

[rubl]

This mean only them can but not other party can gather in Bangkok right?

Wrong. Thai style we make a difference here between peaceful rallies to commemorate events and political gatherings. So the reds may rally after getting permission from the police, but not organize a political gathering. Same goes for other groups including PTP, UDD, yellows, PAD, DEm's. And don't start about what the PAd, or yellows have done before. This post is on a ban issued today.

[badgerbailey]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

[Throatwobbler]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

Maybe you should visit Burma and then you would realize how stupid your statement is.

[alex_aka_P]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

Please keep your childish sarcasm by you.

The current move to BAN this reddish BS is targeted to keep the current status of the regime as long as they are able to PROTECT the current (VOTED!) regime. The elected govt has every rights to protect the currnent (VOTED!) regime. Political shows calling for a revolutin are BANNED in most of countries to keep stability (inclusive of using military forces to disperce such of rallies, if any).

IF they are the govt elected by the most of the citizens - they HAVE right to protect the stability under the voted regime (as they were voted by the most, and they MUST protect the trust and keep the things as longer as they can).

THIS move of Th.govt I am higly welcome, as it will REDUCE the reddish revolutionary BS among the Thais and thus, INCREASE the social stability.

Thumb up! Keep doin'!

PS: Im not a yellowish supporter - I just love the things a few decades back. NO ANY of this colored BS was visible, and the society was SO stable, friendly....and what do we see now??

I just want that stability back, thats all.

[rubl]

PS: Im not a yellowish supporter - I just love the things a few decades back. NO ANY of this colored BS was visible, and the society was SO stable, friendly....and what do we see now??

I just want that stability back, thats all.

A wee bit short-sighted I'd say. A few decades back the society seemed stable, but only because everyone knew his place in society as ordained by the ruling elite for generations. Sorry now most have radio, television, internet, education, they know better. Move forward, not backward!

[badgerbailey]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

Maybe you should visit Burma and then you would realize how stupid your statement is.

In my line of work I get to travel around most of the South East Asian nations and Burma is one of them, I have been in Yangon about 7 times in the past 3 years. Although my statement is a bit exaggerated there is some truth in it. i.e. the censorship of the internet, the military calling the shots ect, and trying to silence the opposition. I take it from your posts that you are an expert on Burma? then you must agree with my points mentioned.

[TAWP]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

Maybe you should visit Burma and then you would realize how stupid your statement is.

In my line of work I get to travel around most of the South East Asian nations and Burma is one of them, I have been in Yangon about 7 times in the past 3 years. Although my statement is a bit exaggerated there is some truth in it. i.e. the censorship of the internet, the military calling the shots ect, and trying to silence the opposition. I take it from your posts that you are an expert on Burma? then you must agree with my points mentioned.

So what we can deduct from your post is that the knowledge you possess regarding Burma/Myanmar you lack of Thailand.

Unless you rely on primary red shirt news outlets for your information flow...in which your confusement is understandable.

[bulmercke]

Amazing Thailand Burma.

Please keep your childish sarcasm by you.

The current move to BAN this reddish BS is targeted to keep the current status of the regime as long as they are able to PROTECT the current (VOTED!) regime. The elected govt has every rights to protect the currnent (VOTED!) regime. Political shows calling for a revolutin are BANNED in most of countries to keep stability (inclusive of using military forces to disperce such of rallies, if any).

IF they are the govt elected by the most of the citizens - they HAVE right to protect the stability under the voted regime (as they were voted by the most, and they MUST protect the trust and keep the things as longer as they can).

THIS move of Th.govt I am higly welcome, as it will REDUCE the reddish revolution BS among the Thais and thus, INCREASE the social stability.

Thumb up! Keep doin'!

PS: Im not a yellowish supporter - I just love the things a few decades back. NO ANY of this colored BS was visible, and the society was SO stable, friendly....and what do we see now??

I just want that stability back, thats all.

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

[TAWP]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

The deluded fans claim it again and again...doesn't make it true.

[rubl]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

[Hardback]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

The current deputy PM was elected and then thrown out of office. He was, however, allowed to keep his cabinet position (as one does not need to be actually elected) The SOE then enabled him to take the seat as de-facto ruler of the country. The terms"elected" and "unelected" are moot in this case.

[badgerbailey]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

Its a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, you're right that the current MP's were elected, but would they have been elected if the voters knew that they were going to switch allegiances. Probably not, if the voter knew that his vote was going to put the democrats in power then things would probably be very different, or would they, with all the massive vote buying that still goes on I guess no one really knows. What would be really nice if we could have a party full of people like Abhisit and Korn who appear to have the country's best interests at heart but unfortunately there are far too many greedy old men on both sides who cannot wait to get their dirty paws in the trough.

[hammered]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

Its a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, you're right that the current MP's were elected, but would they have been elected if the voters knew that they were going to switch allegiances. Probably not, if the voter knew that his vote was going to put the democrats in power then things would probably be very different, or would they, with all the massive vote buying that still goes on I guess no one really knows. What would be really nice if we could have a party full of people like Abhisit and Korn who appear to have the country's best interests at heart but unfortunately there are far too many greedy old men on both sides who cannot wait to get their dirty paws in the trough.

If you care to look back you will find a number of small parties stated before the last election they would under no circumstances join a PPP government. After the election they promptly did resulting in at least big character resigning from one of the parties, so that arguement goes back a bit further than the formation of the demo government

[bulmercke]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

Its a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, you're right that the current MP's were elected, but would they have been elected if the voters knew that they were going to switch allegiances. Probably not, if the voter knew that his vote was going to put the democrats in power then things would probably be very different, or would they, with all the massive vote buying that still goes on I guess no one really knows. What would be really nice if we could have a party full of people like Abhisit and Korn who appear to have the country's best interests at heart but unfortunately there are far too many greedy old men on both sides who cannot wait to get their dirty paws in the trough.

On at least two counts the PPP party was found guilty of electoral fraud by the Administrative and Constitution courts. These were spurious charges that weren't applied to the other parties - Democrats - amongst others -

The decisions of these two courts was biased in the extreme. And - of course - to the advantage of the elitists that really control this country.

Thus the Democrat party was given free reign to form the next government with the assistance of other minor coalition parties.

This was a politically motivated judgment.

[hammered]

Nice argument. But this government isn't democratically elected.

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

Its a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, you're right that the current MP's were elected, but would they have been elected if the voters knew that they were going to switch allegiances. Probably not, if the voter knew that his vote was going to put the democrats in power then things would probably be very different, or would they, with all the massive vote buying that still goes on I guess no one really knows. What would be really nice if we could have a party full of people like Abhisit and Korn who appear to have the country's best interests at heart but unfortunately there are far too many greedy old men on both sides who cannot wait to get their dirty paws in the trough.

On at least two counts the PPP party was found guilty of electoral fraud by the Administrative and Constitution courts. These were spurious charges that weren't applied to the other parties - Democrats - amongst others -

The decisions of these two courts was biased in the extreme. And - of course - to the advantage of the elitists that really control this country.

Thus the Democrat party was given free reign to form the next government with the assistance of other minor coalition parties.

This was a politically motivated judgment.

Actually the PPP was disolved after a large collection of evidence showed one of their executives had bribed local officials to coerce votes for the party. It was a very clear cut case. As the law stated that for such an offence of subversion a party must be disolved there was also no choice on that one

[Throatwobbler]

How often does this particular argument come up again I wonder ?

The current MP's were all elected. According to laws, ruled, regulations MP's select a government from amongst them. This current government is democratically elected in that sense, same like the current government in the UK and Australia.

Anything else ?

Its a case of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, you're right that the current MP's were elected, but would they have been elected if the voters knew that they were going to switch allegiances. Probably not, if the voter knew that his vote was going to put the democrats in power then things would probably be very different, or would they, with all the massive vote buying that still goes on I guess no one really knows. What would be really nice if we could have a party full of people like Abhisit and Korn who appear to have the country's best interests at heart but unfortunately there are far too many greedy old men on both sides who cannot wait to get their dirty paws in the trough.

On at least two counts the PPP party was found guilty of electoral fraud by the Administrative and Constitution courts. These were spurious charges that weren't applied to the other parties - Democrats - amongst others -

The decisions of these two courts was biased in the extreme. And - of course - to the advantage of the elitists that really control this country.

Thus the Democrat party was given free reign to form the next government with the assistance of other minor coalition parties.

This was a politically motivated judgment.

Actually the PPP was disolved after a large collection of evidence showed one of their executives had bribed local officials to coerce votes for the party. It was a very clear cut case. As the law stated that for such an offence of subversion a party must be disolved there was also no choice on that one

Nice arguments, but you can't expect him to listen to facts.

[bulmercke]

That is correct. In any normal democracy (the UK) a general election would have been immediately announced.

[givenall]

I just hope this time the government puts some action into what they say and enforce the ban and the law. I am getting sick and tired of these idiots making life hard for everyone else by ignoring other people rights

[Old Man River]

This mean only them can but not other party can gather in Bangkok right?

Wrong. Thai style we make a difference here between peaceful rallies to commemorate events and political gatherings. So the reds may rally after getting permission from the police, but not organize a political gathering. Same goes for other groups including PTP, UDD, yellows, PAD, DEm's.

Early this evening, soldiers were on the BTS in Rajaprasong. This time, they won't let the Red Shirts (or anyone else) run wild. The ban is being enforced.

[Insight]

Even with the same old, tired arguments being hashed out, the red supporters are showing their usual standards of hypocracy by now backing a coup.

if there is any truth to such a rumour (which I

Highly doubt - similar to the "watermelon soldier" nonsense), it will be met with massive opposition by people who will view it as nothing more than a military push to return Thaksin to power.

[ballpoint]

No sooner do the reds take to the streets again than a number of their supporters, conspicuous by their absence over the past few months, crawl out of the woodwork to hijack threads with the same old disproven argument. One would have hoped that they'd learned a few facts while in hibernation, but I guess the old dog, new tricks adage rings true. At least when that old dog is a certain shade of red.

[mkawish]

"No-one cared"

TAWP:

Just for your information.

You are totally wrong!

I care and many other Farangs here do care what happens in and to Thailand.

Furthermore, if we don't care we won't be here.

If you really do not care, perhaps you could find another country where you do care..... and conduct your biz and live off there.

I'll even throw you a party for your going away party!

[mkawish]

I wonder how long this current government can get away with a ban on political gatherings. Isn't this supposed to be a democratic society?

An October coup - which will put paid - finally - to this insidious threat to the existing order - is looking more likely as each day passes.

Just for your info.

The yellow shirts have been holding their political gatherings every day, day in and day out, over Channel 208.

They voice their very strong disapproval of numerous gov't wrong doings.

I do not see the gov't doing anything to curtail their activities.

Most importantly, I also do not see them destroying others' properties or others' individual rights to differ.

Which differ significantly from most redshirts' destructive political activities.

There is just no comparison between the two.

From what I can see and hear, the yellowshirts trying to reshape Thailand's political arena pointing out corruptions and others,

while the redshirt leaders corrupt themselves to the core financially and politically, all the while calling themselves "plai" but in actuality they are the very rich and wealthy "ummard" themselves.

Perhaps, many Farangs on Thaivisa do not understand much of the Thai news, which is understandable. Any one with 20,000,000 Thai baht in their account just can not call themselves "plai" or "slave, servant".

But the redshirt core leader, Jatuporn and other core leaders are just that sort of 'slave' who call themselves 'slaves' so they can fool others and enrich themselves even more diligently.

SHAME SHAME SHAME.

[TAWP]

"No-one cared"

TAWP:

Just for your information.

You are totally wrong!

I care and many other Farangs here do care what happens in and to Thailand.

Furthermore, if we don't care we won't be here.

If you really do not care, perhaps you could find another country where you do care..... and conduct your biz and live off there.

I'll even throw you a party for your going away party!

I will throw a party when you actually read what my comment was a comment about...

Or you think Red Shirts etc care that CRES bans political rallies?

[Thai at Heart]

Follow the point of what happened this last couple of weeks.

Abhisit basically decides that red shirt protest are ok at a limited level against the SOE.

Suthep states that we know "black shirted assassins" are plotting to shoot Abhisit, and we basically haven't done anything to arrest these known assassins.

Abhisit doesn't flinch.

Friday night, CRES removes the right for the reds to protest in Bangkok.

Basically, "Hey Eton boy, screw Democracy and free speech, we have a country to run here". 'Of course, should you get shot trying to sort out this mess, we will blame it on "black shirted assassins".

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world, someone decided to plan to assassinate a rather controversial figure in the world, and the police/authorities in a HOSTING country saved his ass.

6th man arrested for PLOTTING to kill the POPE

Meanwhile, the Thai army and police don't seem to concerned that known assassins have taken residence across the road from Abhisit's place.

How obvious a threat does it have to be?

Edited September 17, 2010 by Thai at Heart