Embassy Of Saudi Arabia In Bangkok Issues Another Angry Statement

[Thakkar]

Normally, when a corrupt, theocratic, human rights-abusing autocracy demands 'justice', it would be considered rich and laughable. The fact that, in this case, a representative of such a government comes off looking righteous, aggrieved and eminently reasonable, even when using language that is less than diplomatic, says a lot about how damaging this is for Thailand.

[junglist]

So all the @#$%&$# high society people have to do is open their safes, return the jewels, and all will be well again.

If you do some google searching you will see someone wearing a very similar blue diamond, i wouldnt have thought itd be possible to ask for it back.

No luck with googling, could you elaborate?

If you google images for blue diamond+thailand you will see some crudely photo-shopped images that have been doing the rounds of Cambodian web-boards for some years.

One of the pastimes of the little khmen cybermen is to bait thais with references to embarrassing gossip about the supposed location of the missing jewellery. (It's pernicious, unfounded gossip and best ignored, believe me)

i hope this comes to light. put fear in the people at the top. they haven't felt it for to long and have lost touch with the real world.

[yellow1red1]

ok it's neato for someone to have the immunity to say what he wants in Thailand....

And he sure says a lot of truth...

BUT can the Arab also to speak honestly of his own Kingdom???

same http://www.hrw.org/en/node/79258 same Thailand!!!

hey Pot the Kettle is black!

Edit; oh and saudis have their elite class who are above the law, TOO it's called 'wasta'

Saudi Arabia

Events of 2008

Human rights conditions remain poor in Saudi Arabia. International and domestic pressure to improve human rights practices remained feeble, and the government undertook no major reforms in 2008.

The government continues to treat women as legal minors, denying them a host of fundamental human rights.

Arbitrary Detention and Unfair Trials

Detainees, including children, are commonly the victims of systematic and multiple violations of due process and fair trial rights, including arbitrary arrest and torture and ill-treatment in detention. Saudi judges routinely sentence defendants to thousands of lashes, often carried out in public. In 2008 the kingdom carried out 88 executions as of mid-November (compared to 150 over the equivalent period in 2007), including for drug offenses.

Saudi Arabia has no law setting an age below which a child should not be tried as an adult,

Freedom of Expression

Freedom of expression in Saudi Arabia deteriorated in 2008. The government did not respond publicly when chief judge Salih al-Luhaidan in September endorsed the idea that owners of TV stations that broadcast allegedly lewd shows during Ramadan deserved to be killed. Nor did the government sanction prominent cleric Abd al-Rahman al-Barrak in March after he called for the killing of journalists Abdullah Bajad Utaibi and Yusif Aba al-Khair for articles criticizing extremist interpretations of Islam.

Freedom of Religion and Religious Discrimination

Saudi Arabia systematically discriminates against its religious minorities

The saudis are not the ones on trial here. Feel free to open another thread about the problems of Sharia law. The issue is about the trial of a rather undeserving policeman (though to call him such does any cop with a shred of decency a great diservice). Anybody who was even slightly concerned about the integrity of his station would stand down immediately (with pay given retrospectively when the 'inevitable' not guilty arrives) and await trial.

my point was to this Thread, this OP... he gets to speak very true of Thai, can he speak so true of of his Kingdom...???

both countries are about the same messed up, both will continue to be, there are way worse JUSTICE issues for real people in both places in jail, lashed, stoned than some stupid piece of blue dirt a billionaire got stolen...

he can have some more Mercedez demolition derbies to feel better...

Besides, there is something wrong with the whole story. The picture someone posted of the 'blue death' diamond was a pic of the Hope diamond which is housed at the Smithsonian and had a fabled and fairy tale curse legend built up.

This Saudi blue diamond has no history on all of the diamond websites. It's 50 c size would have been bigger than the Hope by 5c.???

One 'report' by a Thai authority siad they did not even know if it existed. There is no mention of it excpet at Wiki, only as part of this story???

i have Contact off to a Blue Diamond webpage asking for true origins and details of this mystery stone.....

it's totally curious no diamond websites mention it, it would have been the world's biggest blue one???

Edit; and the Thai police might be BIB but i like what someone said, even they should get 'innocent until proven guitly' they are not in Arabia where that doesn't count.

also, the Iranians took credit for the killings of the Arabians!!!! DUH

Most famous 9, this Saudi one is not on any list??????

http://www.suite101.com/content/the-worlds-largest-blue-diamonds-a123900

http://www.mapsofwor...ue-diamond.html

Most Popular

Regent, Queen of Holland, Hope, Wittelsbach, Sultan of Morocco, Blue Heart, Heart of Eternity, Transvaal Blue and Chard Blue are the names of some of the most popular blue diamonds of all time.Smithsonian Institute of Washington D.C is the storehouse of the most famous and largest blue diamond in the world, the Hope Diamond.

Edited September 20, 2010 by yellow1red1

[Buchholz]

So all the @#$%&$# high society people have to do is open their safes, return the jewels, and all will be well again.

If you do some google searching you will see someone wearing a very similar blue diamond, i wouldnt have thought itd be possible to ask for it back.

No luck with googling, could you elaborate?

If you google images for blue diamond+thailand you will see some crudely photo-shopped images that have been doing the rounds of Cambodian web-boards for some years.

One of the pastimes of the little khmen cybermen is to bait thais with references to embarrassing gossip about the supposed location of the missing jewellery. (It's pernicious, unfounded gossip and best ignored, believe me)

Thank you.

So, Englander's post was complete bunk.

I appreciate the clarification.

[random]

So, Englander's post was complete bunk.

I appreciate the clarification.

why is it bunk? he says someone wearing a similar diamond.

[Seanextra]

Time has a big article on this but unfortunatley cant open it must be blocked i guess.

[Buchholz]

So, Englander's post was complete bunk.

I appreciate the clarification.

why is it bunk? he says someone wearing a similar diamond.

And then there was this clarification:

crudely photo-shopped images

It's pernicious, unfounded gossip

[elcent]

HOPE diamond has a different shape

[rametindallas]

The Saudi govt. should realize you can't force Thais to do anything. Their pride is unmatched and Saudi Arabia has been punishing Thailand by blocking all employment of Thai people in the Kingdom of S. A. Now, if the Saudis are smart and put something sweet on the table, well, maybe anything is possible, The carrot and stick doesn't work in Thailand; only the carrot. I don't expect the Saudi govt. will like the results produced by the way they are handling the situation; they have no leverage on Thailand.

[wintermute]

If this were a country with a good human rights record and a contributor to the world in some positive way then there might be cause for sympathy. As it is the fact that Saudi Arabia got ripped off by a bunch of Thai workers 20 years ago and are now getting the high hat runaround from the hi-so corrupt is just icing on the karmic cake and unbelievably hilarious.

[random]

So, Englander's post was complete bunk.

I appreciate the clarification.

why is it bunk? he says someone wearing a similar diamond.

And then there was this clarification:

crudely photo-shopped images

It's pernicious, unfounded gossip

Have you checked them yourself or just taking the other posters word for it, if he told you the sky was green would you believe it or check yourself, or at least check the credentials of the person offering up this information?

Some people on here do talk <deleted> mate, there is nothing wrong with clarification.

[Buchholz]

So, Englander's post was complete bunk.

I appreciate the clarification.

why is it bunk? he says someone wearing a similar diamond.

And then there was this clarification:

quote='seri thai'

crudely photo-shopped images

It's pernicious, unfounded gossip

unquote

Have you checked them yourself

Yes. "crudely" done is being generous.

So much so that Englander's post falls under your category of:

quote 'random':

Some people on here do talk <deleted>

unquote

[SamritT]

Time has a big article on this but unfortunatley  cant open it  must be blocked i guess.<img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Please post the link, and we can try to open in via other means.

[Oberkommando]

If you google images for blue diamond+thailand you will see some crudely photo-shopped images that have been doing the rounds of Cambodian web-boards for some years.

One of the pastimes of the little khmen cybermen is to bait thais with references to embarrassing gossip about the supposed location of the missing jewellery. (It's pernicious, unfounded gossip and best ignored, believe me)

Was Photoshopping big in Cambodia back in 1995 when the photos were discovered?

[wintermute]

Does anyone truly care if the photos were photoshopped or not? The fact is the diamond is in the hands of some ultra wealthy corrupt hi-so people and it's not going anywhere short of a declaration or act of war.

[elcent]

Time has a big article on this but unfortunatley cant open it must be blocked i guess.<img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Please post the link, and we can try to open in via other means.

that link is all over this thread here already.

one more time for you

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1969920,00.html

[Oberkommando]

In fact the photos are earlier; circa 1990 and there's also a video.

There's no question of the authenticity of the photos, the only question is are the jewellery items the same ones that were stolen?

[Buchholz]

Time has a big article on this but unfortunatley cant open it must be blocked i guess.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1969920,00.html

no problem here accessing the article

[elcent]

gotta love NYT

about this case

http://www.nytimes.c...the-police.html

written in 1994 and still almost the same now

Edited September 20, 2010 by elcent

[elcent]

In fact the photos are earlier; circa 1990 and there's also a video.

There's no question of the authenticity of the photos, the only question is are the jewellery items the same ones that were stolen?

the video is blocked now

[rubl]

In fact the photos are earlier; circa 1990 and there's also a video.

There's no question of the authenticity of the photos, the only question is are the jewellery items the same ones that were stolen?

The late Gen. Chatichai Choonhavan was PM at that time (1988 - 1991). Gen. Chavalit Yongchaiyudh was Defense Minister with rank of Depute Prime Minister. Of course I'm not suggesting anything here

[marquess]

Time has a big article on this but unfortunatley  cant open it  must be blocked i guess.<img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Please post the link, and we can try to open in via other means.

The article is not blocked I have just read it via normal means and I am here in Bangkok, the article is no more than a summary of the more pertinent points raised in this thread!

[BaronCasey]

I believe that the amount of cooperation that the Thai’s have provided far exceeds what the Saudis would have provided if the boot was upon the other foot. I spent a little time in Saudi Arabia so I’m reasonably aware of what these people think of every other race or nationality, and so I was not particularly surprised to learn that 15 out of 17 World Trade Centre hijackers were Saudi Arabian. The Thai’s have ample experience of the condescending arrogance and general demanding of these Arabs, so there is no sympathy. For those of us that remember, it used to be common-place to see a “No Arab” sign in the beer-bars of Thailand - and for good reason in my opinion.

[elcent]

when one considers how fast the Arabic Embassy responded and how Abhisit is ignoring it now, then I guess there's no reply left that could suit their path of ill-informing the world.

Edited September 20, 2010 by elcent

[elcent]

I believe that the amount of cooperation that the Thai's have provided far exceeds what the Saudis would have provided if the boot was upon the other foot. I spent a little time in Saudi Arabia so I'm reasonably aware of what these people think of every other race or nationality, and so I was not particularly surprised to learn that 15 out of 17 World Trade Centre hijackers were Saudi Arabian. The Thai's have ample experience of the condescending arrogance and general demanding of these Arabs, so there is no sympathy. For those of us that remember, it used to be common-place to see a "No Arab" sign in the beer-bars of Thailand - and for good reason in my opinion.

to correct a wrong with other wrongs doesn't help either

[random]

Have you checked them yourself

Yes. "crudely" done is being generous.

So much so that Englander's post falls under your category of:

quote 'random':

Some people on here do talk &lt;deleted&gt;

unquote

so it would seem from the posts proceeding this one that they are not photoshopped, and there is also video footage. maybe spielberg did the special effects

[Payboy]

Normally, when a corrupt, theocratic, human rights-abusing autocracy demands 'justice', it would be considered rich and laughable.

I've read and reread this entire thread but couldnt find the part where Thailand was demanding 'justice'.

[SamritT]

when one considers how fast the Arabic Embassy responded and how Abhisit is ignoring it now, then I guess there's no reply left  that could suit their path of ill-informing the world.

Kanit is not going to waste time with this stubborn Saudi in BKK anymore. In today's news conference, Kasit say he is going to speak directly to Minister of Foreign Affair (the boss I suppose) in his next visit to the Middle East. If I am this Saudi guy in BKK, I will get ready to pack and the return thicket will be needed sooner than expected. Krama for being shut a big mouth, and speak the truth in Thailand; a real Taboo.

[elcent]

when one considers how fast the Arabic Embassy responded and how Abhisit is ignoring it now, then I guess there's no reply left that could suit their path of ill-informing the world.

Kanit is not going to waste time with this stubborn Saudi in BKK anymore. In today's news conference, Kasit say he is going to speak directly to Minister of Foreign Affair (the boss I suppose) in his next visit to the Middle East. If I am this Saudi guy in BKK, I will get ready to pack and the return thicket will be needed sooner than expected. Krama for being shut a big mouth, and speak the truth in Thailand; a real Taboo.

I guess they will keep him (Kasit) there for extended holidays until the case is solved.

2 flies in one strike.

[SamritT]

You people just don't get it. The photo of the blue diamond on someone neck is fake, and it is done to make it an obvious fake, as a red herring. In fact, the blue diamond was never seen in public since. However, there are photos in the internet of other jewelry on famous people, especially wife of army generals and police chiefs. Those photos are what the Saudi are screaming about. (Not the big blue diamond photo).