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i now will view muslims as terrorist until they can prove me wrong.

Not quite - there are more (unreported) atrocities in say, Iraq.

There are normal Muslims in this world who really are just living their lives without any involvement in terrorism/ extremities (sp.).

I have many friends who are Muslims and will never point the you-are-terrorists fingers at them just because bombs are going off in a western country.

Dude, now that is far too extreme. I'm talking way out there man. Come back to earth will ya?

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From skynews

SUICIDE BOMBER SHOT

Police have shot a suspected suicide bomber near a tube station in south London.

Marksmen opened fire near Stockwell Tube station as passengers were evacuated. It is thought the man was killed.

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say `get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said: "There is no word on whether he has been killed or simply injured."

If the suspect is confirmed to be a suicide bomber, it would mark the fifth attempted terrorist attack on London in less than a day.

The is thought to have been either stepping on to the train or was on the platform.

Brunt said: "He was probably shot in the head. There is no confirmation of that."

Police have been given orders to shoot to kill if they believe someone is about to detonate a bomb.

Two underground lines are understood to have been closed following the incident.

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It has just been reported that the police were searching bags at the station when a man ran and they shot him. Just been reported on the news.

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Beat me to it Boo. :o

BBC

Man shot by armed police on Tube

A man has been shot at Stockwell Tube station by armed police officers, police confirm.

Passengers were evacuated from a Tube train on the Northern Line station in south London after the incident.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen an Asian man shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers".

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines have been suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.

Police are hunting four would-be bombers after Thursday's London blasts.

The bombers fled after detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him."

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say, 'Get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

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From Sky News;

Reports are also coming in that a mosque in the east of the capital has been surrounded by armed officers and residents told to stay indoors.

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BBC had an eyewitness that said the coppers shot the bloke 5 times at close range.

opps....should have read the post properly above :o

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From Sky News;

Reports are also coming in that a mosque in the east of the capital has been surrounded by armed officers and residents told to stay indoors.

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<deleted> indeed!!!

After the 1st bomb my wife believed me that London was safe.

After yesterday and this morning she wants to go home to rural Korat asap!

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I hear you dereklev, the mother in law was going mental 2 weeks ago & hubby says she's insisting we both go back now.

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Taken from a post by stumonster in bedlam

Police 'kill suicide bomber'

From staff writers with wire services

July 22, 2005

POLICE have shot and killed a suspected suicide bomber in an underground train station in south London, eyewitnesses have said.

"We can confirm that just after 10 am today armed officers shot a male at Stockwell Underground station," a spokesman for London's Metropolitan Police said.

The suspect was shot by police at Stockwell station, while he was trying to board a train, Sky News reported.

The man was believed to have been killed, Sky reported.

Passengers said that a man - described as South Asian - ran onto a train. Witnesses said police chased him, he tripped, then they shot him.

"They pushed him onto the floor and unloaded five shots into him. He's dead," witness Mark Whitby told the BBC.

Whitby said it didn't look like the man was carrying anything but said he was wearing a thick coat that looked padded.

"We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say 'get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots," said passenger Briony Coetsee.

Alistair Drummond, of the London Ambulance Service, said paramedics had been called to the station.

The Press Association reported that passengers had been evacuated from Stockwell station.

Stockwell is one stop south of Oval station, one of the stations at the centre of apparent attempted bombings yesterday, two weeks after bomb attacks killed 56 people in the British capital.

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I hear you dereklev, the mother in law was going mental 2 weeks ago & hubby says she's insisting we both go back now.

My sister in law has just phoned with similar instructions! Lucky I don't pay much attention to what she says........

I am loathe to give in to terrorists but am being pressured from all sides to fly back at the earliest opportunity.

Baby is too young for my wife to travel alone, else I would put them on a plane tonight.

I have business that keeps me here for another 3 weeks and also a long standing employees wedding that I can't miss!!

Decisions, decisions!

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The oil subsidy cuts announced this week were part of an economic reform program the Yemeni government has been introducing gradually. Yemen signed a 1995 agreement with the IMF, which promised financial assistance in exchange for economic reforms, including privatization and reduction of subsidies. International observers have said the government has not been doing enough.

The violence broke out Wednesday, when eight people were killed, a day after the government announced it was cutting subsidies on oil products by more than half, part of new belt-tightening reforms under a deal with the International Monetary Fund.

The new subsidy cuts mean a near doubling of prices of gasoline, diesel and kerosene -- with gas prices at the pump reaching 1,350 riyals (US$8) per gallon. Tickets for some public transport increased by about 30 percent.

This is a poor country with limited oil reserves.

The IMF, which along with its sister Bretton Woods organization, the World Bank have been dispencing poverty around the world for 50+ years now. Would you expect some Yemenis to lash out at the commanders of these two Western-World organizations? I would.

In case you are wondering, I do not think that any of the "rioting" Yemenis have any idea about the London undergground nor do any of the bombers have any idea about the Yemeni government's plan to increase gasoline prices.

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Derek- might get some wiggle room if you compare bombings in the south of thailand. Business has to go on - and we can't let a bunch of nutters impact our day to day life.

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sounds rather harsh but if they shoot to wound it could set off explosives

so they aim for the head.

looks like they got their man

from the bbc:

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

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actually daveyo, the guy was asked to comply with the police when they wanted to search him, he didn't & then bolted over the ticket barriers and ran down the platform. They wanted to search him as he was wearing a heavy overcoat in 22 degree heat, pretty suspect at any time & particulaly after some terrorist attacks, so us "british <deleted>" think the police did the best they could in the circumstance.

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Alarm bells would be going off in my head if a lad is wearing a thick coat on a warm summer day? Plus not exactly cold in the tube especially with masses a people about. Easy to comply and I dare say he had reason for not wanting to be searched. Good on them for unloading on the lad - might easily prevented another bombing.

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Latest reports on Al Jazeera suggest that he was carrying no bombs or explosives whatsoever.

Maybe he was just an asian guy who did not understand English, ran off and got shot?

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Well Dave if you shoot your `friend` as accurately as you shoot your mouth off then you wouldn`t have a chance with any a*rsehole British or otherwise :o

Edit by RDN: Dave's on holiday.

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Business has to go on - and we can't let a bunch of nutters impact our day to day life.

Well said- nor in Thailand, or anywhere for that matter.

Was particularily impressed by a lady interviwed on CNN showing that absolute stoicism, trademark of Brits in general during challenging times. As a nation, you guys have been through it before and I greatly admire the general British 'get on with it' attitude.

Never let 'em see you flinch :D

Bravo! :o

PS, Daveyo... wha tha??? Oh nevermind...pointless really :D

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'Distraught' passengers describe mayhem on Tube

22 July 2005

Eyewitnesses described mayhem at Stockwell Tube station today after a suspected suicide bomber was shot dead fleeing from armed police.

One said the man was shot five times as he ran on to a Northern line train soon after 10am.

Scotland Yard have confirmed they shot a man and he was pronounced dead at the scene.

The south London station is now closed and cordoned off.

Witness Mark Whitby, speaking to BBC News 24, reported the man was shot five times at close range after he had jumped on a train.

Mr Whitby said he was sitting on the Tube train reading his paper as it was stationary with its doors open in Stockwell station.

He said he heard people shouting "Get down, get down!"

He said: "An Asian guy ran on to the train. As he ran, he was hotly pursued by what I knew to be three plain-clothes police officers."

He tripped and was also pushed to the floor and one of the officers shot him five times.

"One of the police officers was holding a black automatic pistol in his left hand. They held it down to him and unloaded five shots into him. I saw it.

He's dead, five shots, he's dead."

Mr Whitby said later he was "totally distraught" by what he had seen.

He said that as he was helping an elderly woman off the train, another 10 to 15 police officers with pistols and sub-machine guns ran on.

When he got up to the ticket hall, he was offered counselling by police and Tube staff.

"I'm totally distraught," he said. "It was no more than five yards away from where I was sitting as I saw it with my own eyes."

He continued: "As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a cornered fox.

"He looked absolutely petrified.

"He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time.

"He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor.

"The policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand, he held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him.

"He looked like a Pakistani but he had a baseball cap on, and quite a thickish coat.

"It was a coat like you would wear in winter, a sort of padded jacket.

"Maybe he might have had something concealed under there, I don't know.

"But it looked out of place in the weather we've been having.

"He was quite large, big built, quite a sort of chubby guy."

Passenger Briony Coetsee, 23, told PA: "We were on the Tube when we suddenly heard someone say 'Get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots - someone was shooting.

"Somebody in plain clothes who I thought was a civilian cop had his gun out and started shooting and told us to get out."

Chris Wells, a 28-year-old company manager, said he was travelling on the Victoria line towards Vauxhall when he left the train at Stockwell.

He saw about 20 police officers, some of them armed, rushing into the station before a man jumped over the barriers with police giving chase.

He said: "There were at least 20 of them (officers) and they were carrying big black guns.

"The next thing I saw was this guy jump over the barriers and the police officers were chasing after him and everyone was just shouting 'Get out, get out"'.

Christopher Scaglione, 35, a fashion designer, was also on a Victoria line tube train shortly before the incident.

He told PA: "The train didn't stop at Vauxhall and so I got out at Stockwell.

"I was just on my way out when I heard at first a little bang - not like a bomb, more like a gun - and then people were shouting.

"People then started to run and I heard two or three more bangs, like people shooting."

Journalist Chris Martin said he was waiting on the northbound Northern line platform at Stockwell station and a train had pulled in when several men burst on to the platform about 20 yards from him.

"There was a lot of shouting, I thought it was football fans or something," he said.

"There was obviously some sort of altercation going on, and then they came flying on to the platform and these guys just threw this man into the open doors of the train.

"Then I heard shots, I thought it was three but someone else said five.

"It sounded like a silencer gun going off, and then there was blind panic, with people shouting and screaming and just running away.

"I didn't actually see the gun, but I heard this 'bang, bang, bang'.

"When I left the station a guy called Mark who had been on the train said they had shot the man dead, no doubt about it."

A large area around Stockwell Tube station, an interchange for the Northern and Victoria lines in south London, was cordoned off and traffic approaching the area ground to a halt.

An ambulance and several police cars were also at the scene and sirens were heard blaring in every direction.

Tube services on the Victoria and Northern lines were suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.

A London Ambulance Service spokesman said an air ambulance, an ambulance and a duty station officer had been sent to Stockwell after an emergency call.

Christine Burgess, a 56-year-old accountant, said the apparent shooting was the second security alert she had been caught up in this morning.

She said: "I was on a Tube train at Kennington when we were told to get off and we saw a suspicious person with a bag taken away from the carriage I was in.

"After leaving the station, I decided to get on the 155 bus to try and get home and we had just got to Stockwell when we stopped.

"I was looking out of the window on the right-hand side and another driver from a different bus came on to ours and said police had just shot a suicide bomber in Stockwell station.

"I was still looking out of the window and saw them bring out the black zip-up bag and that must have been the person involved because nobody else was hurt. I saw it taken into the ambulance."

She added that, despite her chaotic morning, she still felt calm and composed and able to travel on public transport.

She said: "I'm not a highly-strung person, I am fairly calm, but I am confident that the police and security forces are doing an excellent job."

evening standard

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is quite possible syd but then, really, who wouldn't stop when some police guys in full flak jackets & carrying weapons walk towards you? Gotta be some sort of moron right, even in thailand, if the police approach you with their guns drawn, you would stop & a lot of farang don't speak thai either.

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is quite possible syd but then, really, who wouldn't stop when some police guys in full flak jackets & carrying weapons walk towards you? Gotta be some sort of moron right, even in thailand, if the police approach you with their guns drawn, you would stop & a lot of farang don't speak thai either.

Exactly with all the happenings over the last couple of weeks anybody whether a terroroist or not would not run away from armed police especially in a Tube Station and then jump a barrier and onto the tube...unless he wanted to die and go to his destiny.

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