furyrider Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I have been reading some of the topics about bike emissions and registering them and am more confused now then when I started. Next month I want to get one of the bikes that I see at RedBarron Bangkok. I live in the Udon area. I wanted to know how much the dealer or RedBarron will do as fare as getting the bike legal and will he be able to register it in the Udon area. I have read in some threads about limitations with big bikes and have no Idea what they are talking about. What is the whole process from laying the cash out to ridding it fully legal???? The Insurance company that I have for our Pickup will also cover bikes and they have been real good to us ( my wife has personally tested them 4 times last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2oDunc Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I personally would not buy a bike without a legal book now. They will tell you they can get you a book after purchase but whether or not they actually do is another matter. If you see a bike you like insist they obtain the book before you hand over any money. If getting a book is as easy as they say it is then they will go with the deal. There are plenty of bikes about that are fully legal so I would look for one that comes with all the paperwork and save yourself a whole heap of trouble and added costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furyrider Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 I personally would not buy a bike without a legal book now. They will tell you they can get you a book after purchase but whether or not they actually do is another matter. If you see a bike you like insist they obtain the book before you hand over any money. If getting a book is as easy as they say it is then they will go with the deal. There are plenty of bikes about that are fully legal so I would look for one that comes with all the paperwork and save yourself a whole heap of trouble and added costs Ok If they have the new book for the bike dose that mean that it has passed emissions?? This is a brand new 2010 honda. If they have the book what is the next step?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRIDER Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I personally would not buy a bike without a legal book now. They will tell you they can get you a book after purchase but whether or not they actually do is another matter. If you see a bike you like insist they obtain the book before you hand over any money. If getting a book is as easy as they say it is then they will go with the deal. There are plenty of bikes about that are fully legal so I would look for one that comes with all the paperwork and save yourself a whole heap of trouble and added costs Ok If they have the new book for the bike dose that mean that it has passed emissions?? This is a brand new 2010 honda. If they have the book what is the next step?? If they have the book,,,, drive and enjoy BUT go with them and check the book when you get the numberplate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzinged Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furyrider Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yes Red Baron are reputable. BUT how long will it take to get your book? As far as i know there is only ONE grey importer that ensures they have a fully legal book BEFORE sale and thats http://www.pattayasuperbikes.com/ I would ask the question at Red Baron. How long for the green book and if they say 1 week. oK. jUST COLLECT THE BIKE 1 WEEK LATER IF THEY SAY 3 mths + then withhold 120,000b until ya get the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. Hard to tell by your post if Red Baron has gone ahead and registered the bike already. Can you clarify? This is a new bike, probably a Honda Fury. Right? The bike must be able to pass Euro emission minimum standards which is stricter than California, USA. Normally a registered importer will have received permission to bring in specific models that the Thai government has been shown pass the emission standards before they can bring any in. Is Red Baron going to be the importer for Honda? If all goes well, the bike will be registered in Bangkok then you will have to transfer the book to Udon yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furyrider Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. Hard to tell by your post if Red Baron has gone ahead and registered the bike already. Can you clarify? This is a new bike, probably a Honda Fury. Right? The bike must be able to pass Euro emission minimum standards which is stricter than California, USA. Normally a registered importer will have received permission to bring in specific models that the Thai government has been shown pass the emission standards before they can bring any in. Is Red Baron going to be the importer for Honda? If all goes well, the bike will be registered in Bangkok then you will have to transfer the book to Udon yourself. I am not sure if they have registered it yet. And yes it is the Fury that I want. From what I understand they are going to be the Honda fury dealer and will continue them in stock. However all this is based on what I have been told on different forums. I am in Iraq at the moment and won't be in Bangkok until the 25th of Oct then I will talk to them. I just need to know what I am looking for so I don't walk into a night mare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. ........................ Hi xray. Have you got anymore info on this..... awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass...... Sounds nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. Hard to tell by your post if Red Baron has gone ahead and registered the bike already. Can you clarify? This is a new bike, probably a Honda Fury. Right? The bike must be able to pass Euro emission minimum standards which is stricter than California, USA. Normally a registered importer will have received permission to bring in specific models that the Thai government has been shown pass the emission standards before they can bring any in. Is Red Baron going to be the importer for Honda? If all goes well, the bike will be registered in Bangkok then you will have to transfer the book to Udon yourself. Only the following have had governments approval for imports BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, Kawasaki, Harley davidson The rest are approved one by one. To pass the tests they need to be moded. Mods are then usually removed before delivered to customer. Or they pay to pass the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Red Baron are one of the more reputable dealers around Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that everything they do is legal when it comes to selling 2nd hand bikes. (or new imports even) Good that is what I have been told about Red Baron. I guess that I just need to stop reading so many post about bikes registrations and the awful new emissions testing that big bikes can't pass. Hard to tell by your post if Red Baron has gone ahead and registered the bike already. Can you clarify? This is a new bike, probably a Honda Fury. Right? The bike must be able to pass Euro emission minimum standards which is stricter than California, USA. Normally a registered importer will have received permission to bring in specific models that the Thai government has been shown pass the emission standards before they can bring any in. Is Red Baron going to be the importer for Honda? If all goes well, the bike will be registered in Bangkok then you will have to transfer the book to Udon yourself. Only the following have had governments approval for imports BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, Kawasaki, Harley davidson The rest are approved one by one. To pass the tests they need to be moded. Mods are then usually removed before delivered to customer. Or they pay to pass the test Ducati ?? Suzuki (Gladius) Chinese ones, the fly 150 ?? Etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Ducati ?? Suzuki (Gladius) Chinese ones, the fly 150 ?? Etc.. sorry, forgot ducati, they have done a thorogh job homoleg chinese less than 150cc, dontknow gladious, sold how many perhaps 2? doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Stallion.. Fly150 Lifan (lots of models) SYN from Taiwan Theres a whole bunch of these whose names escape me, but with the pricing I cant see them being non homogelated. I passed a bunch of scoots with designs I hadnt seen before today up north here, assume chinese imports and plated, at the price they sell they simply cant be individually 30k tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Stallion.. Fly150 Lifan (lots of models) SYN from Taiwan Theres a whole bunch of these whose names escape me, but with the pricing I cant see them being non homogelated. I passed a bunch of scoots with designs I hadnt seen before today up north here, assume chinese imports and plated, at the price they sell they simply cant be individually 30k tested. agree, I was thinking bikes above 250cc since thats where the taxes really kick in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yeah Richard posted that sub 250 were going to be tax free and only reg costs... Not sure if that ever came to pass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yeah Richard posted that sub 250 were going to be tax free and only reg costs... Not sure if that ever came to pass.. Yes, it did in 2008, and that's why Kawasaki started selling the Ninja 250R in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaBuddha Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Stallion.. Fly150 Lifan (lots of models) SYN from Taiwan Theres a whole bunch of these whose names escape me, but with the pricing I cant see them being non homogelated. I passed a bunch of scoots with designs I hadnt seen before today up north here, assume chinese imports and plated, at the price they sell they simply cant be individually 30k tested. Platinum, JRD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Stallion.. Fly150 Lifan (lots of models) SYN from Taiwan Theres a whole bunch of these whose names escape me, but with the pricing I cant see them being non homogelated. I passed a bunch of scoots with designs I hadnt seen before today up north here, assume chinese imports and plated, at the price they sell they simply cant be individually 30k tested. Platinum, JRD... Vespa !!! Now I think theres a lot more homog models than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yeah Richard posted that sub 250 were going to be tax free and only reg costs... Not sure if that ever came to pass.. Yes, it did in 2008, and that's why Kawasaki started selling the Ninja 250R in Thailand. But the Ninja 250 is made here no ?? I was talking import taxes ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yeah Richard posted that sub 250 were going to be tax free and only reg costs... Not sure if that ever came to pass.. Yes, it did in 2008, and that's why Kawasaki started selling the Ninja 250R in Thailand. But the Ninja 250 is made here no ?? I was talking import taxes ?? Import DUTY on all except ASEAN made, 80% Excice tax on all above 250cc Interior tax on all VAT on all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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