GuestHouse Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Almost all the conversations I have with Thai people are in their language - The OP might not like foreigners using the word Khun, but I don't see that as any good reason for me, or anyone else for that matter, to bastardize the language in order to attend to his sensibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlooker Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 It gets worse when they use 'Mr' plus their first name. "Hello, Mr Bob speaking." Or ask Thais to "Go and talk to Mr John." At least Khun + first name is vaguely Thai whereas the above is far more tosser-ish. Which isnt surprisign as these are the type of expats who speak to other expats in Tonto English. "I go pub, watch football. You come eat farang food" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 It gets worse when they use 'Mr' plus their first name. "Hello, Mr Bob speaking." Or ask Thais to "Go and talk to Mr John." At least Khun + first name is vaguely Thai whereas the above is far more tosser-ish. Which isnt surprisign as these are the type of expats who speak to other expats in Tonto English. "I go pub, watch football. You come eat farang food" We tend to do that after a while without thinking. "You Tonto, me Lone Ranger" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakhar Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 And if we were in the US or UK or Oz, would we think that it was weird if a Thai there called themselves by name? Yes, so you would politely tell them the proper way. But we aren't there, we are in Thailand where the proper way is you use your own name. So do it like the Thais do, because you are in Thailand, and when you are somewhere else, use the proper speech there. Why do some people think that it is ok to come to a foreign land and culture and try to force their own customs on others? If you speak Thai, speak it properly. If you speak English, speak it properly. I am with cm das on this one. Well, folks to be honest, when I use the word "Koon" folks all laugh and smirk about it.... Like "look at whitey.... make a fool of himself..." Kind of like an Asian kid rapping, it just dont "feel right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyman99 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 (edited) Almost all the conversations I have with Thai people are in their language - The OP might not like foreigners using the word Khun, but I don't see that as any good reason for me, or anyone else for that matter, to bastardize the language in order to attend to his sensibilities. I agree with Khun GuestHouse, Just because most Farang Khuns in Thailand are unable or unwilling to embrace the language of Thai Khuns, thats certainly not the same for all Khuns . Some Khuns make an effort. Khun Sillyman. Edited October 7, 2010 by sillyman99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 What's ' ajarn ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakhar Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 (edited) it's a jar, that will not open Edited October 7, 2010 by Dakhar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 What's ' ajarn ' Yet another example of misuse of their actual job description, the great majority are nothing more than khruu. Darrel from Peckham with his dubious TEFL certificate (and no degree) is a prime example of the sort who refer to themselves as ajarn, whilst masquerading as a teacher in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 even worse is calling yourself Khun xyz and then ending written sentances ect with 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyman99 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 even worse is calling yourself Khun xyz and then ending written sentances ect with 555 Why ? 555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 even worse is calling yourself Khun xyz and then ending written sentances ect with 555 Why ? 555555 Oh my Buddha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyman99 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 even worse is calling yourself Khun xyz and then ending written sentances ect with 555 Why ? 555555 Oh my Buddha! I said that to my khun friend you the other wan. 5555555555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Everybody refers to me as "Pii Nuat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburns57au Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 In 17 years I have never heard a Thai refer to themselves as Khun ****, It is a form of address made to a second party where the person is not familiar to the speaker. In cases where the second person is familiar such as a friend etc....the words for brother, sister, aunty or uncle are generally used. So if by not using the term Khun when referring to ones self is bastardizing the Thai language, there must be a lot of Thai Bastards around.....mmmmmm not going any further with that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 And if we were in the US or UK or Oz, would we think that it was weird if a Thai there called themselves by name? Yes, so you would politely tell them the proper way. But we aren't there, we are in Thailand where the proper way is you use your own name. So do it like the Thais do, because you are in Thailand, and when you are somewhere else, use the proper speech there. Why do some people think that it is ok to come to a foreign land and culture and try to force their own customs on others? If you speak Thai, speak it properly. If you speak English, speak it properly. I am with cm das on this one. Ok Khun Floridaguy! I hope you keep your voice down as well then while you are over here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindsayBKK Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 (edited) The Japanese end their names with san, so what is wrong with Khun? Japanese friends call me Lindsay san, Thais call me Khun Lindsay. Takes a tosser to know a tosser. Some people just don't want to try very hard to be polite. Edited October 7, 2010 by LindsayBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburns57au Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 The Japanese end their names with san, so what is wrong with Khun? Japanese friends call me Lindsay san, Thais call me Khun Lindsay. Takes a tosser to know a tosser. Some people just don't want to try very hard to be polite. It is fine if they call you Khun....the issue here is people calling themselves Khun. Keep up please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Khunboys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_a4BU09GrU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 The Japanese end their names with san, so what is wrong with Khun? Japanese friends call me Lindsay san, Thais call me Khun Lindsay. Takes a tosser to know a tosser. Some people just don't want to try very hard to be polite. It is fine if they call you Khun....the issue here is people calling themselves Khun. Keep up please Where is the GREEN button when you need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburns57au Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 The Japanese end their names with san, so what is wrong with Khun? Japanese friends call me Lindsay san, Thais call me Khun Lindsay. Takes a tosser to know a tosser. Some people just don't want to try very hard to be polite. It is fine if they call you Khun....the issue here is people calling themselves Khun. Keep up please Where is the GREEN button when you need it? dam_n my first greenie....did I do something wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 In the Philippines it is normal to address people by their work or profession. A lawyer "Mike" for instance is addressed in greeting and introduction as "Attorney Mike". And he would answer the phone that way too. All the guys with sawn off shot guns in shop fronts are addressed simply as "guard" with no name added. Kenny In that case Im "unempoyable fat git Phil" ps Phil, isnt my name, fer gawdddddddddddsssss sake Im not telling you all my secrets shhhhhhhhhhhhhh:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Remember. It is very polite when speaking to a person in authority like a police officer or immigration official to refer to them as " Mung" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 In 17 years I have never heard a Thai refer to themselves as Khun ****, It is a form of address made to a second party where the person is not familiar to the speaker. In cases where the second person is familiar such as a friend etc....the words for brother, sister, aunty or uncle are generally used. So if by not using the term Khun when referring to ones self is bastardizing the Thai language, there must be a lot of Thai Bastards around.....mmmmmm not going any further with that one!! I've just had a phone call from a Thai guy, he introduced himself as 'Khun ....... calling from ........' 17 years you say?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Ahh - another nonsense thread. Carry on with the feces flinging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 The Japanese end their names with san, so what is wrong with Khun? Japanese friends call me Lindsay san, Thais call me Khun Lindsay. Takes a tosser to know a tosser. Some people just don't want to try very hard to be polite. so to be polite you use Nong ( for someone older then you ) or Pi ( for some younger then you ) .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraburioz Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 His point - I think - is that you are not supposed to refer to yourself as "khun" or "ajarn". Other people doing it is OK. I don't always agree with khun Ulysses's post but this one I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Where Im from calling someone a 'Khun' takes on a whole new meaning & isnt very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraburioz Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 In 17 years I have never heard a Thai refer to themselves as Khun ****, It is a form of address made to a second party where the person is not familiar to the speaker. In cases where the second person is familiar such as a friend etc....the words for brother, sister, aunty or uncle are generally used. So if by not using the term Khun when referring to ones self is bastardizing the Thai language, there must be a lot of Thai Bastards around.....mmmmmm not going any further with that one!! I've just had a phone call from a Thai guy, he introduced himself as 'Khun ....... calling from ........' 17 years you say?! I have been here a couple of years short of that and can speak Thai well and Thais don't introduce themselves as khun unless theyvare jerks or tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraburioz Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Out of interest are you speaking Thai or English with them? I speak Thai about half the time with my wife, and all the time with most of the family. When speaking English with my wife and her one cousin who can, I use English pronouns as I would with any other English speaker. As for whether it's proper to refer to yourself as khun or ajarn, I follow what I see from the Thais I know. When I was teaching at a university, if a Thai teacher wanted to refer to him or herself when speaking with a student, it would either be as "Ajarn" followed by their name, or simply "Ajarn". With a friend or acquaintance outside the univeristy, of course it would be different. In my opinion, the social implications of Thai forms of address are much more subtle than those of English. What seems awkward or artificial in one situation might be normal in another. I agree that calling my self khun or ajarn with a stranger or a friend would be silly, but in other situations if it's good enough for Thais it's good enough for me, regardless of what another foreigner thinks. I've found that high school teachers are more likely to call themselves ajarn when talking to a pupil. Most uni ones would say ' phom' and some older ones I know refervtpvthemselves as Khru as that implies teaching them more than just the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyman99 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I have been here a couple of years short of that and can speak Thai well and Thais don't introduce themselves as khun unless theyvare jerks or tossers. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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