British National Arrested For Exporting Fake Football Shirts In Pattaya

[Rimmer]

British National Arrested for Exporting Fake Football Shirts in Pattaya

PATTAYA: -- A British National and his Thai girl friend have been arrested in Pattaya for the exporting and selling of illegally produced fake football team shirts in and online business venture.

Pattaya, 16th October 2010 [PDN] At 01.30 am, a Crime Suppression Division Officer, Police Lieutenant Khuanphichai Manojarern along with his team and in possession of an arrest warrant number 404/2553 signed on the 15th October 2010 searched room 201 at the TS Mansion, 329/3, Moo 9, Nongprue, Banglamung, after reports that the residents were using the property to sell illegally produced clothing which are an infringement on copy rights.

Full story HERE

PATTAYA DAILY NEWS

2010-10-16

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[gotlost]

Dumb Dumb and Dumb. Should of paid the tea money.

[ukrules]

I wonder how many Thai's have been arrested for doing the same. Isn't copyright infringement a civil matter ?

[LennyW]

I wonder how many people know that the "fake/copy" shirts are actually made in the same factory as the originals?? Original Man U shirt from the Man U shop 49.99, same shirt from same factory but with upside down label - 99 Baht!!!!!

[Rimmer]

One racist flame deleted also one off topic none sense post

[britmaveric]

Obviously someone dobbed him out.

[FarangBuddha]

So desperate to stay but no skills or funds. Good work coppers, he would have eventually moved on to more serious criminal enterprises.

[SOMCHAISBROTHER]

So desperate to stay but no skills or funds. Good work coppers, he would have eventually moved on to more serious criminal enterprises.

How do you know that? what a stupid and ridiculous thing to say.

[ignis]

What were they arrested for ?

Exporting Fake goods ?

Having an internet Business ?

Cannot be for selling fake goods, otherwise 90% of all shops and trader selling non fresh goods in Thailand would be closed down..

Maybe they were selling then as genuine Football shirts ?

[likewise]

The hypocrisy again.......... why do they not round up and arrest all the vendors around beach road They're all selling copies from clothing to jewelery, perfumes and so on.

BIB, bunch of ridiculous <deleted>.

[ignis]

I wonder how many people know that the "fake/copy" shirts are actually made in the same factory as the originals?? Original Man U shirt from the Man U shop 49.99, same shirt from same factory but with upside down label - 99 Baht!!!!!

what is "fake/copy" ?

Everywhere manufactures get an order, they make 10% more than the order of that run in case some do not pass inspection.. So what happens to these 10% ? there sold are these then "fake/copy" ?

Many many years ago visit to 'Nike' in Turkey they sold in there shop the extras at a fraction of the price of the retail stores the goods went to....

It is no different here in Thailand, someone I know has a large warehouse and buys all the extras from Toyota and a few others, of course the salesmen can sell much cheaper, they are not fake parts but cannot be sold as genuine so what are they ?

Of course you then have many rejects, eg: Logo on shirt is a bit high/low, shirt pocket a bit to high/low, trouser pockets to shallow/long and so on, have seen it all over the years, These are not "fake/copy" but ?

[slim]

I wonder how many people know that the "fake/copy" shirts are actually made in the same factory as the originals?? Original Man U shirt from the Man U shop 49.99, same shirt from same factory but with upside down label - 99 Baht!!!!!

And do you also believe in Father Christmas, Unicorns and that Elvis works in the chippy down the road?

Anyone with half a brain can tell the tat copies produced by these factories from the genuine article produced under license particularly when compared against each other.

What are you suggesting - that Nike hold production and load up a few hundred rolls of <deleted> material with embarrassing embroidered logos just to satisfy the Asian market?

[LennyW]

I wonder how many people know that the "fake/copy" shirts are actually made in the same factory as the originals?? Original Man U shirt from the Man U shop 49.99, same shirt from same factory but with upside down label - 99 Baht!!!!!

And do you also believe in Father Christmas, Unicorns and that Elvis works in the chippy down the road?

Anyone with half a brain can tell the tat copies produced by these factories from the genuine article produced under license particularly when compared against each other.

What are you suggesting - that Nike hold production and load up a few hundred rolls of <deleted> material with embarrassing embroidered logos just to satisfy the Asian market?

So where do you think the ones that do not pass inspection go? I am not talking about the obvious copies / fakes, i guess rejects or seconds would be the right term, some of them are so near perfect but just dont pass final inspection, they end up on sale too!

[slim]

I wonder how many people know that the "fake/copy" shirts are actually made in the same factory as the originals?? Original Man U shirt from the Man U shop 49.99, same shirt from same factory but with upside down label - 99 Baht!!!!!

And do you also believe in Father Christmas, Unicorns and that Elvis works in the chippy down the road?

Anyone with half a brain can tell the tat copies produced by these factories from the genuine article produced under license particularly when compared against each other.

What are you suggesting - that Nike hold production and load up a few hundred rolls of <deleted> material with embarrassing embroidered logos just to satisfy the Asian market?

So where do you think the ones that do not pass inspection go? I am not talking about the obvious copies / fakes, i guess rejects or seconds would be the right term, some of them are so near perfect but just dont pass final inspection, they end up on sale too!

Lenny - I have yet to see one of these fake shirts that look anything like the original on inspection. We are not talking about rejects from the original factory here, we are talking about cheap fake goods made from cheap material and poorly constructed (hence the price). Its the same for all the tat you can buy in and around Bangkok or any of the tourist areas. I can tell a fake Rolex from 5 yards away. They dont look right - the "gold" is clearly not gold. The dead giveaway on these shirts is the "embroidered" badge of the club logo. Some of the LFC one's I've seen are an absolute joke.

If you bought a bag full of M.U. shirts and took them to your local Salford pub you'd shift them all because most people wouldn't really notice the difference and they'd rather pay £10 for a shirt than £45. But these are not rejects from Nike. They are cheap <deleted> from a local Thai factory. If they were rejects from Nike they'd have to be imported through customs and they'd be hit with huge C.I.T. fees (carriage insurance and tax).

They wouldn't be 100 baht on Sukhumvit if this was the case.

Its a common misconception that companies like Nike, knock out cheap gear to be sold on the black market - THEY DONT !! Why the <deleted> would they and potentially destroy the reputation they've built with their multi-millions dollars advertising campaigns.

(by the way cheap packets of unbranded corn flakes you might buy in Aldi or Lidl or Somerfield are NOT made by Kellogs - thats another myth)

[basjke]

(by the way cheap packets of unbranded corn flakes you might buy in Aldi or Lidl or Somerfield are NOT made by Kellogs - thats another myth)

I can not comment on the shirts debacle but about the item above I have some more insider info and you're dead wrong about that in many cases.

[basjke]

The hypocrisy again.......... why do they not round up and arrest all the vendors around beach road They're all selling copies from clothing to jewelery, perfumes and so on.

BIB, bunch of ridiculous <deleted>.

Because they are Thai and pay tea money.

[ozzieovaseas]

Obviously someone dobbed him out.

Agree....might i be bold enough as to suggest a competitor who sells the same

Just goes to show, It just doesnt pay for a farang to try to make money in thailand...its just NOT on

So simple, yet people still forget we are only allowed here to SPEND money..

[LennyW]

Lenny - I have yet to see one of these fake shirts that look anything like the original on inspection. We are not talking about rejects from the original factory here, we are talking about cheap fake goods made from cheap material and poorly constructed (hence the price). Its the same for all the tat you can buy in and around Bangkok or any of the tourist areas. I can tell a fake Rolex from 5 yards away. They dont look right - the "gold" is clearly not gold. The dead giveaway on these shirts is the "embroidered" badge of the club logo. Some of the LFC one's I've seen are an absolute joke.

Nike, that you are using as an example do not have an original factory, all their garment work is contracted out, my wifes family has a garment factory in Phetkasem road in Bangkok, this is how i know, and they regularly do work for Nike, Addidas, Levi, Wrangler. When an order comes in from Nike for example, Nike supply rolls of labels, buttons, studs, threads etc. when the order is completed the factory makes more garments with the materials that are leftover - where do you think they go?

There is about a dozen factories within a mile of this one all doing exactly the same!

[slim]

(by the way cheap packets of unbranded corn flakes you might buy in Aldi or Lidl or Somerfield are NOT made by Kellogs - thats another myth)

I can not comment on the shirts debacle but about the item above I have some more insider info and you're dead wrong about that in many cases.

Really?

Why would they be going to the trouble to do this then:-

Kellogg’s Planning to Logo Brand Every Individual Corn Flake

Breakfast cereal giant Kellogg’s has announced a new system to brand their corn flakes with a laser engraved company logo, and thereby distinguishing it from copies.

The system, which uses a laser to concentrate light and results in the company logo being burnt into onto every individual flake, is expected to distinguish the product from the numerous competitors who cash in on the popularity of the product.

An estimated 128 billion bowls of Kellogg's Corn Flakes are consumed around the world on an annual basis.

[basjke]

(by the way cheap packets of unbranded corn flakes you might buy in Aldi or Lidl or Somerfield are NOT made by Kellogs - thats another myth)

I can not comment on the shirts debacle but about the item above I have some more insider info and you're dead wrong about that in many cases.

Really?

Why would they be going to the trouble to do this then:-

Kellogg’s Planning to Logo Brand Every Individual Corn Flake

Breakfast cereal giant Kellogg’s has announced a new system to brand their corn flakes with a laser engraved company logo, and thereby distinguishing it from copies.

The system, which uses a laser to concentrate light and results in the company logo being burnt into onto every individual flake, is expected to distinguish the product from the numerous competitors who cash in on the popularity of the product.

An estimated 128 billion bowls of Kellogg's Corn Flakes are consumed around the world on an annual basis.

Because it is easy to understand.More production translates in lower initial cost.Since not everybody wants to buy Kellogs or flakes at a certain inflated cost it pays off to have overstock oem branded.Just switch off the laser for that part of the production.I know of several brands who do that,not specifically Kellogs tough.

[SOMCHAISBROTHER]

^^ having a close look at the images of what the fella was selling there is no Nike or other manufacturer label they are brand less so the argument about whether Nike sell on over runs or badly made products is of no point in this particular case.

[ignis]

^^ having a close look at the images of what the fella was selling there is no Nike or other manufacturer label they are brand less so the argument about whether Nike sell on over runs or badly made products is of no point in this particular case.

Myself only mentioned Nike because I had visited a Nike manufacturing Company 20 odd years ago + of course Nike put there embroidered emblem on them.. Here on this post they are named Football club shirts..

Well to me anyway a ' brand less' shirt would be plain shirt/T-shirt, which these were not, he was selling a Brand named T-shirt, both he and she in the photo are wearing a T-shirt with Brand names on.

[Benjie]

(by the way cheap packets of unbranded corn flakes you might buy in Aldi or Lidl or Somerfield are NOT made by Kellogs - thats another myth)

I can not comment on the shirts debacle but about the item above I have some more insider info and you're dead wrong about that in many cases.

Really?

Why would they be going to the trouble to do this then:-

Kellogg's Planning to Logo Brand Every Individual Corn Flake

Breakfast cereal giant Kellogg's has announced a new system to brand their corn flakes with a laser engraved company logo, and thereby distinguishing it from copies.

The system, which uses a laser to concentrate light and results in the company logo being burnt into onto every individual flake, is expected to distinguish the product from the numerous competitors who cash in on the popularity of the product.

An estimated 128 billion bowls of Kellogg's Corn Flakes are consumed around the world on an annual basis.

lol, I can't see them etching a logo into trillions and trillions of corn flakes.

[mufcsamui]

During the investigation, 504 football team clothing, all imitations, were found individually sealed in plastic bags, to the value of 500,000 baht. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT THINK SO

[ignis]

During the investigation, 504 football team clothing, all imitations, were found individually sealed in plastic bags, to the value of 500,000 baht. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT THINK SO

Maybe the 500,000 baht was the figure to make the problem go away, not to many people will have that to hand

[SOMCHAISBROTHER]

Myself only mentioned Nike because I had visited a Nike manufacturing Company 20 odd years ago + of course Nike put there embroidered emblem on them.. Here on this post they are named Football club shirts..

Well to me anyway a ' brand less' shirt would be plain shirt/T-shirt, which these were not, he was selling a Brand named T-shirt, both he and she in the photo are wearing a T-shirt with Brand names on.

What the two in the pictures are wearing has nothing to do with what they were selling. They were selling infants shirts WITHOUT the original manufactures trademark logo for example Nike.

The MANUFACTURER of the original shirts only have a case when one has copied the trademark logo and displayed that on the merchandise.

That doesn't go to say that what they were doing is strictly legal because it is more then likely he doesn't have a work permit.

The ONLY people that can take this to a court of law for loss of revenue would be for argument sake the Brazil National football team governed under FIFA, not Nike because there is NO Nike trademark infringement and highly unlikely that Fifa are going to prosecute as the court hearings would cost more then the fine if any.

[ignis]

The ONLY people that can take this to a court of law for loss of revenue would be for argument sake the Brazil National football team governed under FIFA,

Yes, so is it another Newspaper writing only part of a story?

I still cannot see why they were arrested, in the report it clearly states there website + on that website it clearly states what is being sold..

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[ukrules]

The ONLY people that can take this to a court of law for loss of revenue would be for argument sake the Brazil National football team governed under FIFA,

Yes, so is it another Newspaper writing only part of a story?

I still cannot see why they were arrested, in the report it clearly states there website + on that website it clearly states what is being sold..

There was a documentary on UK TV a year or so ago which showed one or two individuals coming over to Thailand as representatives of the brand owners - I think it was Umbro who have distributorship rights on the England football kit.

They issued a supposedly leaked copy of the a newly designed England football kit, it was a fake, people were met and filmed by the Umbro representative / private investigator and they were asked to manufacture some replica kits.

These same kits started appearing for sale around the night markets within days, it's worth noting that the design used was fake in the documentary so it would be very easy to track who is producing and selling the kit and who they were selling them to.

The factory was raided and all of these Umbro kits were seized by the police, however the most interesting thing is that the rest of the factory continued to work producing replica kits for many other teams - even during the police raid. This was pointed out in the documentary specifically as the police said nothing can be done about the rest of them as this complaint had come from a specific company - in this case Umbro.

I think a couple of things come to light here.

This suggests the guy was arrested as he is a foreigner as he isn't really committing a crime, like I mentioned in my previous comment in this thread : it appears to be a civil matter not a criminal one.

They were most probably just looking for money. I wouldn't be surprised if after a period of money extraction he is maybe handed over to immigration police for working without a permit, maybe not, I guess it depends on whether they can prove he was doing the work himself.

I also would not be surprised if someone jealous of this guys apparent success reported him for this directly resulting in his arrest.