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President Ahmadinejad says Iran has become a nuclear state

2010-12-29 01:28:36 GMT+7 (ICT)

TEHRAN, IRAN (BNO NEWS) -- President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday said that Iran has become a nuclear state despite international sanctions, the state-funded Press TV reported.

"The United States and its allies have been exerting political and propaganda pressure and have issued resolutions against the Iranian nation. All their efforts have failed and Iran has now become a nuclear country," Ahmadinejad said, addressing a crowd in the northern city of Karaj.

The Iranian leader added that the international community has two options, either continuing the sanction resolutions or interacting with Iran. However, he remarked that the first option was not the right way.

"We are open to cooperation based on our rights," President Ahmadinejad added. "They cannot give back the nuclear energy from the Iranian nation at the present that Iran has become a nuclear country."

Iran recently concluded talks with the G5+1 group in Geneva, Switzerland, amidst international skepticism as it was believed that the meetings would not last a single day. However, Iranian officials said the talks were held under a positive and constructive atmosphere and agreed to hold additional meetings in Istanbul next year.

Furthermore, the Iranian leader warned once again that his country will categorically respond to anyone who attempts to prevent the Islamic country from continuing its nuclear program, saying it has a right to do so.

The rules contained in the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) entitles each member state, including Iran, to the right of uranium enrichment but the Islamic nation is currently under four rounds of sanctions from the UN Security Council.

The fourth round of sanctions, which were backed by the U.S., were imposed citing the proliferation risks of Iran's nuclear program and its continued failure to comply with International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) requests.

Ahmadinejad said that the sanctions against his country were illegal and downplayed any effect it might have had in Iran. He added that the measures only strengthen the country and accelerate the progress.

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire. There are countries that would like them stopped (not only Israel and the US, also Egypt, Saudi, etc.), but at what price? So this is coming to a head, is an Iran with nuclear WEAPONS (not yet) going to be tolerated, or not? Time is running out.

As an aside to humanize this somewhat, check out the film

No One Knows About Persian Cats

about the underground music scene in Iran featuring some young hip Iranians (we see many of their kind in Pattaya these days). The film is being freely seeded by the filmmaker as he wants the world to get his message.

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

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IMO the U.S Government should butt out of other countries affairs for once. Twice or more would be great. :whistling:

Iranian people are a lovely people and have just as much right to the use of nuclear power as the next country. Nuclear energy will inevitabley be the preferred source of power for all in the future.

Furthermore.When? If ever have the Iranian people been an aggressor toward any other nation? :ph34r:

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

No. But it shows thier logistics are left a lttle wanting. Take away Uncle Sams blank check book and they would have bigger problems than just forest fires.:lol:

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The country's GDP (Purchasing power parity) in 2006 reached $195 billion according to the International Monetary Fund or $179 billion according to the World Bank (see List of countries by GDP (PPP)). GDP per capita has been $31,767 according to the International Monetary Fund in 2007 or $26,200 in 2006 according to the CIA World Factbook. The economy grew by 8% in the last quarter of 2006, faster than any of its Western counterparts.[9]

American billionaires and business tycoons including Bill Gates, Cole Roberts, Warren Buffett, and Donald Trump have each praised Israel’s economic environment,[10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

Think again. ;)

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

Not directly. But there is a psychological factor as well. Israel is now perceived as weaker because of that, even among many Israelis themselves.
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The country's GDP (Purchasing power parity) in 2006 reached $195 billion according to the International Monetary Fund or $179 billion according to the World Bank (see List of countries by GDP (PPP)). GDP per capita has been $31,767 according to the International Monetary Fund in 2007 or $26,200 in 2006 according to the CIA World Factbook. The economy grew by 8% in the last quarter of 2006, faster than any of its Western counterparts.[9]

American billionaires and business tycoons including Bill Gates, Cole Roberts, Warren Buffett, and Donald Trump have each praised Israel's economic environment,[10

http://en.wikipedia....onomy_of_Israel

Think again. ;)

If this information is true then why ?

AND I QUOTE:

US aid tied to purchase of arms

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Anne Davies HERALD CORRESPONDENT

January 2, 2010 <DIV class=articleBody>WASHINGTON: Just before Christmas, the US President, Barack Obama, signed into law one of his country's biggest aid pledges of the year. It was bound not for Africa or any of the many struggling countries on the World Bank's list.

It was a deal for $US2.77 billion ($3 billion) to go to Israel in 2010 and a total of $US30 billion over the next decade.

Israel is bound by the agreement to use 75 per cent of the aid to buy military hardware made in the US: in the crisis-racked US economy, those military factories are critical to many towns.

A little more food for thought wouldn't you think??

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

Not directly. But there is a psychological factor as well. Israel is now perceived as weaker because of that, even among many Israelis themselves.

Hardly.

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

No. But it shows thier logistics are left a lttle wanting. Take away Uncle Sams blank check book and they would have bigger problems than just forest fires.:lol:

There is no blank checkbook. I don't think you fully understand just what aid it is that Israel (and Egypt) receive from the USA.

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No. But it shows thier logistics are left a lttle wanting. Take away Uncle Sams blank check book and they would have bigger problems than just forest fires.:lol:

It is funding that comes with alot of conditions and requirements.

The military funding is an indirect subsidy for the U.S. defense industry. If the money wasn't flowing this way, plants would close and tens of thousands of Americans would be out of a job. The USA is not allowed to give direct subsidies to its defense industries as long as it wishes to compete on the open market for lucrative international procurement contracts. The funding to Israel allows the economy of scale at companies like Raytheon so that the per item costs of products can be kept down.

in the meantime, folks should understand that while a nuke attack from Iran might indeed obliterate Israel (much to the delight of some people in TVF), that nuclear fallout would have to go somewhere. 1/4 of the planet would probably be glowing and uninhabitable including the very important middle eastern oilfields. It is in everyone's best interests if they want to keep having access to low cost Air Asia flights that the world's energy supplies not become radioactive. Capiche?

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Iran is pretty strong now. The Iraq war made them stronger and Israel is looking weaker than ever as they couldn't even manage a forest fire.

So a country's military capabilities are directly related to how well that country can put out a forest fire? Ya learn something new every day on ol' Thaivisa.

No. But it shows thier logistics are left a lttle wanting. Take away Uncle Sams blank check book and they would have bigger problems than just forest fires.:lol:

There is no blank checkbook. I don't think you fully understand just what aid it is that Israel (and Egypt) receive from the USA.

The AIPAC the second largest lobby in the US congress right under OPEC. And 8 Billion$$$ a year flat out. Plus a "Israel can do no wrong" foreign policy.

Sure it may not be a BLANK check from the US but it's one that Israel could not live without.

Personally I'm happy to see Iran become Nuclear, there is no reason why they shouldn't be and they are no threat to the US with them. Especially if we focus on our own agenda and not Israel's.

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The country's GDP (Purchasing power parity) in 2006 reached $195 billion according to the International Monetary Fund or $179 billion according to the World Bank (see List of countries by GDP (PPP)). GDP per capita has been $31,767 according to the International Monetary Fund in 2007 or $26,200 in 2006 according to the CIA World Factbook. The economy grew by 8% in the last quarter of 2006, faster than any of its Western counterparts.[9]

American billionaires and business tycoons including Bill Gates, Cole Roberts, Warren Buffett, and Donald Trump have each praised Israel's economic environment,[10

http://en.wikipedia....onomy_of_Israel

Think again. ;)

If this information is true then why ?

It is true and the reason is politics. Israel is the only country that America can depend on in the region and it is worth it to the US to subsidize their military in return for intelligence and other favors. A strong ally in the Middle East is very important to the USA.

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The country's GDP (Purchasing power parity) in 2006 reached $195 billion according to the International Monetary Fund or $179 billion according to the World Bank (see List of countries by GDP (PPP)). GDP per capita has been $31,767 according to the International Monetary Fund in 2007 or $26,200 in 2006 according to the CIA World Factbook. The economy grew by 8% in the last quarter of 2006, faster than any of its Western counterparts.[9]

American billionaires and business tycoons including Bill Gates, Cole Roberts, Warren Buffett, and Donald Trump have each praised Israel's economic environment,[10

http://en.wikipedia....onomy_of_Israel

Think again. ;)

If this information is true then why ?

It is true and the reason is politics. Israel is the only country that America can depend on in the region and it is worth it to the US to subsidize their military in return for intelligence and other favors. A strong ally in the Middle East is very important to the USA.

People who justify the "blank checks" America gives Israel always fall back on the ol'e "Strong Ally in the middle east garbage" Ask the crew of the USS Liberty about our so called allies. Anyway that being said, we could have gotten much more ally for our investment with either Saudi, Kuwait, or the UAE. And with out the religious/cultural drama that comes along with cow towing to Israel.

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Yeah, we can really trust Saudi, Kuwait, and the UAE and no religious and cultural drama either. Thanks for the chuckle. :cheesy:

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Yeah, we can really trust Saudi, Kuwait, and the UAE and no religious and cultural drama either. Thanks for the chuckle. :cheesy:

Someone needs to tell Obama that he can't trust the Saudis. Has the 60 billion USD arms deal with SA been approved by Congress yet?

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Have spent a lot of time around Israelis, even working for them. They had all done their military training in/under various guises.

TV posters should rememeber it is only colour and religion that seems to seperate people. But some posters are ant-semitic I feel and that is raciscim?

The Israelis I worked for were not amongst the friendliest or warmest people I have ever met?

But, they had a couple of "never again" attitudes, that I could understand.

One, was that there would never be another exodus or Holacaust?? (Masada again??)

Two, if we were being overun, all Muslim places of worship would be fields of glass beads. (Nuclear strikes??)

Point two is maybe why the Saudis wanted Irans nuclear facilities "Taken care of"...... (Willeaks, internet cables)?

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Yeah, we can really trust Saudi, Kuwait, and the UAE and no religious and cultural drama either. Thanks for the chuckle.

Yeah, I'm still recovering from that gem as well. good lord.

Nation-states which do not fiercely subscribe to separation of church and state should not be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. For reasons I would think should be obvious, but which apparently are beyond the understanding of those who don't comprehend the nature of religion (when practised honestly).

The Iranian leader added that the international community has two options, either continuing the sanction resolutions or interacting with Iran.

I suspect he might be overlooking a third option. Somewhat glaringly.

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The country's GDP (Purchasing power parity) in 2006 reached $195 billion according to the International Monetary Fund or $179 billion according to the World Bank (see List of countries by GDP (PPP)). GDP per capita has been $31,767 according to the International Monetary Fund in 2007 or $26,200 in 2006 according to the CIA World Factbook. The economy grew by 8% in the last quarter of 2006, faster than any of its Western counterparts.[9]

American billionaires and business tycoons including Bill Gates, Cole Roberts, Warren Buffett, and Donald Trump have each praised Israel's economic environment,[10

http://en.wikipedia....onomy_of_Israel

Think again. ;)

If this information is true then why ?

It is true and the reason is politics. Israel is the only country that America can depend on in the region and it is worth it to the US to subsidize their military in return for intelligence and other favors. A strong ally in the Middle East is very important to the USA.

This is my whole point. I mean really.What has the USA got to do with the Middle East ?It is on the otherside of the world for goodness sake. They would do good to learn that we are all equal and they are NOT the be all and end all of this planet. In my opinion, take the US out of the middle east then problem solved.:ph34r:

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I mean really.What has the USA got to do with the Middle East ?It is on the otherside of the world for goodness sake. They would do good to learn that we are all equal and they are NOT the be all and end all of this planet. In my opinion, take the US out of the middle east then problem solved.:ph34r:

You're kidding, right?

Well there's oil.

And then there's oil.

Oh, don't forget oil.

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You're kidding, right?

Well there's oil.

And then there's oil.

Oh, don't forget oil.

Hey brahh I hate to be a stickler, but I happen to have it on good authority that it's got nothing to do with oil.

It's got a lot to do with Freedomand the spreading around of it.

Just fyi etc...

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Yeah, we can really trust Saudi, Kuwait, and the UAE and no religious and cultural drama either. Thanks for the chuckle. :cheesy:

Someone needs to tell Obama that he can't trust the Saudis. Has the 60 billion USD arms deal with SA been approved by Congress yet?

Funny how someone named "Judas" would lecture folks on who to trust.

Fact is that the only reason why the US blindly supports Israel at all costs is religious bias. The US had excellent relations with the middle east before our support of Israel . Had we never supported them we wouldn't have the problems with the rest of the middle east that we do today.

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Fact is that the only reason why the US blindly supports Israel at all costs is religious bias. The US had excellent relations with the middle east before our support of Israel . Had we never supported them we wouldn't have the problems with the rest of the middle east that we do today.

It's got very little to do with religion, and a whole lot to do with geopolitics.

I do think allowing Israel to have the bomb was lol_dumb dumb dumb. Not as bad as Pakistan, but pretty bad.

But these excellent relations of which you speak...you do realise you're talking about fundamentally Islamic nations, yes? Not secular representative parliamentary democracies like Israel; the gulf states aren't all glitz and Dubai and 'with it'.

Don't get fooled by the spin.

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The US had excellent relations with the middle east before our support of Israel . Had we never supported them we wouldn't have the problems with the rest of the middle east that we do today.

Thank you for another episode of the World According to Huey - it was entertaining as usual. I almost hate to interject a little reality in such a good fairy story. Making up "history" from thin air seems to be popular among bashers of Israel.

The Arab countries supported Nazi Germany in World War Two - before there was a country called Israel - and the US remained pretty much neutral in the conflict until almost 20 years later after they had declared independence when the Soviet Union started flooding the Arab countries with weapons, munitions and intelligence information and the US became concerned. They finally decided to support Israel as a buffer against Soviet domination of the Middle East.

The US did not start arming Israel in any big way until they won the 1967 war and, in fact, Soviet pilots actually flew sorties against Israel in 1973.

In short, the USA relations with the Arab countries were never that good, so blaming Israel for all the bad blood is a little far-fetched - but it does make for good fantasy. :whistling:

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Not secular representative parliamentary democracies like Israel;

secular??

"Jewish and Democratic State – Is the definition of the nature and character of the State of Israel, as the Jewish nature was first defined within the Declaration of Independence of 1948, and the "Democratic" character, was first officially added to the "Jewish" nature, in the amendment to the Basic Law: the Knesset that was passed in 1985 (amendment 9, clause 7A)."

from Wikipedia

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