Offshore Oil Rig Work

[Soutpeel]

Finding high paying work in Thailand, without a degree or such is near impossible, manual work, as stated, can be done by locals, maybe this is why so many Frangs start their own business, whether they survive or not is another subject.

Thank you for such insight on a subject which pretty obviously you know nothing about...:jap:

[Soutpeel]

Okay, now in the meantime while I am applying for jobs and what not.

Will first aid increase my chances?

and does anyone know how long BOSIET is valid for?

You would be doing your first aid as part of your BOSIET

[saorsa]

Okay, now in the meantime while I am applying for jobs and what not.

Will first aid increase my chances?

and does anyone know how long BOSIET is valid for?

You would be doing your first aid as part of your BOSIET

Taking BOSIET without having anything to go with it is just wasting your money. When I started out, I paid for BOSIET, IRATA 1 and one of these stupid 2 day rigging & lifting courses. I managed to get 'some' work on the ropes in the UK, first onshore, then offshore, but it was a lean year until I started to get into NDT as there are far too many bodies and not enough jobs for unskilled work.

[HDRIDER]

Okay, now in the meantime while I am applying for jobs and what not.

Will first aid increase my chances?

and does anyone know how long BOSIET is valid for?

You would be doing your first aid as part of your BOSIET

Taking BOSIET without having anything to go with it is just wasting your money. When I started out, I paid for BOSIET, IRATA 1 and one of these stupid 2 day rigging & lifting courses. I managed to get 'some' work on the ropes in the UK, first onshore, then offshore, but it was a lean year until I started to get into NDT as there are far too many bodies and not enough jobs for unskilled work.

Hi

I don’t agree 100%with you, if you have all your papers and they need a guy right away you will be on the top of the list to go out, as you know they can call you and want you in the airport within hours, this happens a lot of times. I got a friend of mine into offshore work, he was out for 8 weeks went home and the same company called him after 14 days asked him to go out, he said sorry guys call me again in 4 weeks time, do i have to tell they never called him again, if you want a start in offshore work, don’t say no for a year or 2, he learned the hard way and he still regret he said no.

[counrikke]

So... even if I'm unskilled, it would be recommended to get the BOSIET anyways? seeing as it is valid for 3-4 years. If they do need someone I can go straight away

[Soutpeel]

So... even if I'm unskilled, it would be recommended to get the BOSIET anyways? seeing as it is valid for 3-4 years. If they do need someone I can go straight away

As you can see there are two schools of thought on paying for your own BOSIET.

In virtually all locations in the world a BOSIET ticket is a mandatory requirement as part of your basic offshore training, which covers HUET, Sea Survivial, basic First Aid and basic fire fighting, ie you will not be allowed offshore in most cases if you dont have it.

The debate of who should actually pay for it is an old one, certainly in the UK agencies try and scr*w people to pay for their own as to make more profit, as generally its part of the T&C's from the client that a body shop has to provide all the required safety equipment and training as part of the day rate quoted, therefore by getting the employee to pay for their own courses, and in some cases their own PPE increases the agencies bottom line...its bascially a con.

If you are based in Thailand, there are BOSIET courses going on every week (its only a 3 day course), therefore IMHO, if you do get something solid possibly coming up, just tell the company concerned you have it and nip off quickly and do it on the quiet, or alternatively just tell them its just expired and you will get yourself sorted out in Thailand, either way you will be saving yourself some cash on a piece of paper which is basically worthless unless you manage to get yourself offshore.

Your biggest problem getting a start offshore will not be the BOSIET, it will be getting your foot in the door

From a different perspective....in 25 years in the offshore O&G game, I have never been required to pay for any required safety training or PPE, its always been taken care of the company

[HDRIDER]

So... even if I'm unskilled, it would be recommended to get the BOSIET anyways? seeing as it is valid for 3-4 years. If they do need someone I can go straight away

Hi

You need to know a lot more about offshore work, they will not take you if you don’t do your home work, just because its good money and you can live where you want don’t make you offshore worker, what is bulls eye run (boring anyway) BOP, PGB.

Get on goggle and try to find what you want to do, i only want ROV work and that’s it, do your home work first i would not hire you if i could get one with 4 weeks experience, why should i?? You have to prove something not me, it can be tough to get started in offshore business..

[Soutpeel]

So... even if I'm unskilled, it would be recommended to get the BOSIET anyways? seeing as it is valid for 3-4 years. If they do need someone I can go straight away

Hi

You need to know a lot more about offshore work, they will not take you if you don't do your home work, just because its good money and you can live where you want don't make you offshore worker, what is bulls eye run (boring anyway) BOP, PGB.

Get on goggle and try to find what you want to do, i only want ROV work and that's it, do your home work first i would not hire you if i could get one with 4 weeks experience, why should i?? You have to prove something not me, it can be tough to get started in offshore business..

One of the keys to getting offshore is contacts, contacts, contacts without these, even with required skills, the bits of paper etc chances are you will not get your foot in the door.

If you do manage to get something, then attitude is the next criteria, closely followed by a good sense of humour and finally dont p*ss off the OIM/DSM/CSR or your career will be very short indeed.,

Many a qualfied/experienced person have been run off purely because of their attitudes...ie being a prima donna's or basically just having a sh*t attitude.....nothing to do with their skills/qualifications/experience. See this a lot with a lot of the North Sea tigers operating in Asia Region.

[counrikke]

oh I see. well then I'm going to have to make some friends in the right places it seems!

[Soutpeel]

oh I see. well then I'm going to have to make some friends in the right places it seems!

I pays to drink around...

[DMC1]

Have a look at Rope access on the Internet, It's been mentioned, In my opinion if you realy want to get offshore, and don't want to wait, it's not a bad move and it pays well. I'm an NDT/welding Inspector, I did my Rope access some 8 years ago. Fair bit of work about on and offshore even now. I worked with a lot of guys with no other tickets than there rope access, (a sort of roustabout on a rope)

Check it out on the net; rope access, IRATA (Industrial Rope Access Trade Association) Theres courses everywhere, (make sure there IRATA approved) course takes a week, half day practical exam at the end, have a look.

Your young and in good health yes? It could be a quick in and base to start building your career from.

Think very carefully about getting into the rope access/ndt side. I have been involved with this since the 90's and in the SE Asia region nowadays there are very few expats working in this game that are not at the top end of the tree. There are loads of Singaporean/Malay techs with all the tickets and experience who will work for much lower rates. In my case all of our techs (NDT/inspection/ropes) are Thai Nationals with a couple of expat offshore supervisors with over 30 years experience between them. They are really tightening up in the Gulf of Thailand about companies using expats for positions that can be filled by Thais. I probably do on average around 150 days offshore per year in the Gulf of Thailand but in the not too distant future there will be a Thai filling my position once they get one that ticks all the boxes (which wont be too hard!!).

If you do decide to take this route then you will need to get started in your own country and take it from there.

Good luck

[starman_tom]

www.rigzone.com has tons of jobs

[Soutpeel]

www.rigzone.com has tons of jobs

Posted for the most part by agencies who are speculating/ bidding on man power supply contracts....ie they dont have the job yet themselves...

[JimsKnight]

www.rigzone.com has tons of jobs

Posted for the most part by agencies who are speculating/ bidding on man power supply contracts....ie they dont have the job yet themselves...

+1

[PattayaParent]

According to this http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/111771/the-best-and-worst-jobs-for-2011 roustabout is the worst job you could be looking for this year.

Best look for a job as a mathematician.

[ding]

According to this http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/111771/the-best-and-worst-jobs-for-2011 roustabout is the worst job you could be looking for this year.

Best look for a job as a mathematician.

That seems to be directed at jobs in the USA, but point taken. Not sure that everyone has a math degree who looks for work to live in Thailand, I don't have one anyway.

[jerryb78]

should keep this thread going. good infor for unskill -young buck who want to get in the game.

[SeanPhuket]

Raise this to the top out of interest...

Any further input by the OP? Did he get a start?

[Soutpeel]

Raise this to the top out of interest...

Any further input by the OP? Did he get a start?

If you are sniffing to get into the O&G...best place to look now is Aussie....some massive projects going on...Gorgon and Wheatstone are but two projects... I have had 4 serious job offers already this year and two of these have remained "standing offers" if I decided I wanted to go to Kangeroo land

[JaiLai]

Raise this to the top out of interest...

Any further input by the OP? Did he get a start?

If you are sniffing to get into the O&G...best place to look now is Aussie....some massive projects going on...Gorgon and Wheatstone are but two projects... I have had 4 serious job offers already this year and two of these have remained "standing offers" if I decided I wanted to go to Kangeroo land

What type of work do you do in O & G industry?

[Machang]

This is a very informative thread. I have recently decided to try and get into the HSE sector working offshore. I'm 30 years old & am currently based in Thailand. I don't have any experience working in the upstream sector but have spent the last ten years working in the downstream sector, 3 years as a production manager at a independent oil manufacturing company & 7 years working as the sales manager for the same company. ( not particularly skill sets that would be well needed in HSE I'm guessing) Im now looking for a career change. Money is not the biggest motivation i just value my time off and have other interests in life. I updated my CV & sent it to around 15 offshore drilling companies I found on the Internet but I'm not to confident on hearing anything back to be honest. It seams to be who you know not what you know from the research I have been doing. Does anyone have any advice with regards to getting into HSE? I'm from the UK so would my best bet be moving to Aberdeen and starting from there. I'm happy to start from scratch I just need to know the best place to start.

Thankyou in advance & sorry for hijacking the thread it seams that the more knowledgable people in this particular industry have had a lot of input on here.

[eeeya]

Qld coal seam gas is going off right now. Seek.com.au regularly has trainee positions for service hands. Pay is shit at the start. But its a good way to start. Mighr require a truck license to get a look in. But at least you'd be usefull.

Read up on the processes involved with drilling a well and the associated companies involved. Such as Mud dr. Wireline. Cementer. Mwd..etc etc..

Hell of a lot more interesting than chasing a hook around the decks or pulling slips

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[Machang]

Thankyou eeeya that's very helpful. I will check out the website & see what they have to offer. Would I be right in thinking a service hand is the same as a green hand? I will also read up on the stuff you mentioned, I think at this point I have a lot more research to do.

[eeeya]

A Service hand is a third party contractor who provides a specific service during the construction of an oil well. Eg wireline (perforating, logging), cementing (cementing the casing). mud engineer ( drilling mud specialists)They are an outside company contracted in by the oil company.

Roughneck (floorman), Roustabout, Assistant driller (AD), Driller, Toolpusher are all core crew and work directly for the drilling contractor. They own the drilling platform (modu) mobile offshore drilling unit. They drill the hole.

The oil company like woodside or shell co ordinate all these services together to drill and complete a well.

Oil and gas is a pretty diverse industry. I'm only speaking from the drilling side.

Have a look at the websites for the big third party contractors. Schlumberger, Halliburton, Weatherford, Baker Hughes.

They have good information on there about oil field terminology etc.

If you get a start with any of these companies ( an easier task than getting a job as a roustie). The pay sucks at the start. But they will train you if your willing with all kinds of courses both locally and internationally. Think of it as an apprenticeship sort of.

In my opinion a brilliant start for a 19 yr old if you like technical stuff but still don't mind getting dirty.

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[HLover]

South peel, I sent you a PM from our 1st conversation, please check and reply.

[emiubon]

A Service hand is a third party contractor who provides a specific service during the construction of an oil well. Eg wireline (perforating, logging), cementing (cementing the casing). mud engineer ( drilling mud specialists)They are an outside company contracted in by the oil company.

Roughneck (floorman), Roustabout, Assistant driller (AD), Driller, Toolpusher are all core crew and work directly for the drilling contractor. They own the drilling platform (modu) mobile offshore drilling unit. They drill the hole.

The oil company like woodside or shell co ordinate all these services together to drill and complete a well.

Oil and gas is a pretty diverse industry. I'm only speaking from the drilling side.

Have a look at the websites for the big third party contractors. Schlumberger, Halliburton, Weatherford, Baker Hughes.

They have good information on there about oil field terminology etc.

If you get a start with any of these companies ( an easier task than getting a job as a roustie). The pay sucks at the start. But they will train you if your willing with all kinds of courses both locally and internationally. Think of it as an apprenticeship sort of.

In my opinion a brilliant start for a 19 yr old if you like technical stuff but still don't mind getting dirty.

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TC One X

look like what I am looking for, checking out that company, now

[emiubon]

I have shortlisted quite a few company, and I am getting my C.V., written and contacting some friends and family members to see if they know somebody, working in the industry.

What I am not really sure to understand, is the visa working permit, paper works.

Say I got a job from a U.S. company, to work offshore or onshore, don’t really matter, to me, at the moment. “From what I read around, to work onshore, BOIET is not needed”, in a third country, say Nigeria or Lybia, just for example, the company will take care of the visa required, or me?

By the way I am from Italy, although I will try to get in contact also with some Italian company, now, and probably if nothing come out before, In January I will go to Italy, for a month or so, to visit my family, so I will visit also the Italian company that I have managed to find,

I think I have many quality required to be able to work on rigs, or other similar jobs: like be able to do labor intensive work, Shift work, Fifo, etc, only because, at younger age I was working, doing special Lighting Show all over Europe, and basically was more or less on this basis, probably even more labour intensive, at that time you can even work, 2-3 days or more without, stop, and accident did happen quite frequently, but was like that, then I started to travel, and lost connections, and actually the company close doors too.

What I don’t have is experience, but I am confident, that I able to work in arsh environments.

What I would also to ask, if you think this courses, could be of some help, to get some more consideration respect the others that apply for the same position?

1) Senior First Aid Certificate

2) Front End Loader License

3) Working at Heights Cert.

4) Working on confined spaces Cert.

I read on the net that company, give also some Rotary Drilling books to study, I got some title, and I am trying to see, if I am able to order on Amazon. Or find somewhere.

I am looking to any green hand jobs, Roustabouts, painter, store man, should be also some working positions that, I can apply with catering company that work for the Oil and Gas industry.

I am not sure I f I have been very clear, but this is more or less my plan,

Send, CV, start to phone follow ups, and see what I come out with.

[Soutpeel]

To answer your Visa/WP questions....typically the company will sort all this out for you, you dont need to do anything other than may be turn up at an embassy/consulate to pick up your PP.

BOSIET is not required for onshore work, this or some variation is required for offshore work.

I hate to p*ss on your plans, but based on your experience it is highly unlikely you will get a look in on any "green hands jobs" internationally unless you know some who could pull some strings for you to get in, but would suggest getting in via CV alone...very little chance

Going to leave it there...as I dont want to shatter your dreams any further, but suspect you will have very little luck in the international O&G game, based on your current circumstances

[emiubon]

Well, at least I will try, I remember I had worked with a guy, that worked in the oil or gas industry, I am looking If I can get in touch with him.

Anyhow, do you think this course is valid? And may help? http://www.mdslimite...bpages/pef.html

How you can stand up in front of a H.R., during the interview?

What I have in mind is not only to send a C.V. but follow up on it, with phone calls and may be even try to go to the company, if I am close enough.

[Soutpeel]

Well, at least I will try, I remember I had worked with a guy, that worked in the oil or gas industry, I am looking If I can get in touch with him.

Anyhow, do you think this course is valid? And may help? http://www.mdslimite...bpages/pef.html

How you can stand up in front of a H.R., during the interview?

What I have in mind is not only to send a C.V. but follow up on it, with phone calls and may be even try to go to the company, if I am close enough.

And how much are they trying to steal from you for these courses ?

Stand up in front of HR....??...what are you talking about interview technique ?.....you do know these days most interviews for the international game are not even done face to face its usually over the telephone, so whether you stand or sit is up to you

take it from someone who works in O&G, send a CV by all means, even follow up with a phone call, but do not go knocking on any doors ,if you have already been told they have no positions all you will do is start p*ssing people off..