bbradsby Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Its the same the world over. And, just judging from the number of members & guests reading this post, the govt should transfer this 'problem' to the Tourist Authority of Thailand for use in yet another 'Amazing Thailand' promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 At my university (in Thailand) we'd have a clamp down about once a year. People would get thrown out of class for wearing the wrong color shoes and then 2 weeks later everyone would be walking around looking like hookers again. Without complete repression your not gonna stop girls looking how they wanna look so why not just let them be. Apart from anything else, who wants girls to look less sexy? Guys obviously don't. Girls obviously don't. It's natural I am speechless.... Are you really a qualified and certified educator....? Are you really a teacher teaching whatever in Thailand....? If you were doing whatever in my school, you would be thrown out on the spot for even describing the feminine students in those terminologies of disrespect! Didn't even want to ask if you got your education and training certification from KaowSarn university....?! Mr, Speechless, I'm glad not to work with you at YOUR school...:jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macmundi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) I shows characteristic. It differentiates the conservatives against the show-alls. But its a good way for the observer to determine which girl is smart and which ones shouldn't deserve the grade they got.:jap: Also to add, they have their skirts so high up and tight, they should just tattoo their phone number at the end of sight as a reward for those to try to look as far in as possible. Edited January 31, 2011 by Macmundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon10 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 And here we go !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie61 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 World wide most all universities do NOT force adults to wear uniforms. This is just a symptom of Thailands ancient mindset about how to control youth, which is utterly out of tune with world standards. Unless you couldn't forced wearing of Chadors for muslim unis. No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends, so they use what assets they have by wearing the tightest clothes that show off what they have. If they were free to dress as they chose, in a reasonable manner, they likely would dress MORE conservatively relative to tightness and what they try and show. The 'authorities' are clueless about all this. I agree totally here... This could be the beginning of the end for Thailand. I think most farangs here have learned to tolerate rampant corruption in government, army and police, but here we draw the line! I walk to work every day through Prasarnmit University, just after reading about the above mentioned ills in Thai society in the Bangok Post, and the only thing that keeps me vaguely sane is the uniforms of the lovely sexy students. Please please please, do not take that away from us! Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I was on the SkyTrain the other day, and had a pair of comely, university uniformed lasses standing nearby... Both were tallish, thin, long hair, and had tight slim fit black skirts that were VERY short.... almost up to their xxxxx... And then, on top of that, they had a front v slit in the mini skirts, just to go even a bit higher... Indeed, they certainly found a way to get noticed.... Wow...I was getting turned on...you write good...ever thouight about writing for Playboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 World wide most all universities do NOT force adults to wear uniforms. This is just a symptom of Thailands ancient mindset about how to control youth, which is utterly out of tune with world standards. Unless you couldn't forced wearing of Chadors for muslim unis. No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends, so they use what assets they have by wearing the tightest clothes that show off what they have. If they were free to dress as they chose, in a reasonable manner, they likely would dress MORE conservatively relative to tightness and what they try and show. The 'authorities' are clueless about all this. 'No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends' I think you could have phrased this a bit better: '*Every* young girl (or boy) wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends... ' is better. --That's why she dresses the way she does. It follows that if she is free to dress as she pleases, outside dress code guidelines, she will only dress in ways that are acceptable (i.e. fashionable) amongst her peers. She would be unlikely to dress more 'conservatively' as you put it.. Seems that you haven't noticed that most Thai ladies not at Uni ,or working in Pattaya and such 'working' environments, actually do dress less tight and more casually, than these 'Uni Uniforms' force them to do, to create any form of personal differentiation. They tend not to be too blatant, but also tend to have a defined personal style, and that lack of ability to be individualized is what forces the tight uniform syndrome. They can't 'adequately define themselves as individual people' except by using their 'physical attributes shown through a generic covering'. Most do dress more conservatively when not in the Uni regimented sameness. Sure they have individual minds... And in an ideal world a girls mind would take precedence over her physical attributes... in an ideal world. But we also know about how the Thai schooling system works so hard to beat that individuality out of them for 16 years. Certainly young men and women follow fashion trends, but each in their own way of their own choosing. This uniform fetish by the authorities is just a continuation of the homogenization instinct of the Thai education systems controllers. Build 'good little Thais, in a non-threatening mold to the previous generations', inspite of all the information these young people have in this interconnected communication swamped world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I vote we keep all the 'intellectual' speak to a minimum on this topic and let the photos speak for themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) In reply to the incredulous comments about university students being "adults". If you express an interest in a young woman, it's very common for friends/relatives to replay "she's still a student" as a way of saying she's not available. A very strong cultural belief among Thais (not just religiously/morally conservative ones) is that being a student means you should not be engaged in any romantic/sexual relationships. This is just as true for university-aged women as it is for girls. Therefore it is entirely consistent for traditionally-minded people to advocate that students should not be permitted to display themselves so attractively. Another point is that Thai young people are expected to respect and listen to (as in obey) their elders - especially their parents of course - much more than those in the West. I was very surprised for example, when my ex-wife appeared on my doorstep asking me to take her back after we'd agreed to separate, and in fact long after the divorce was legally finalized. It turns out that her family had only just recently informed Papa, and his reaction was so strong that (as I later found out) she was basically ordered to reconcile with me or face banishment from the family. (And no, nothing to do with money, they all know I don't have any.) My point with this is that the enforcement of such rules aren't just a matter between the college administration and the students themselves - if the parents can be convinced to support them then that will helps "solve the problem" more than any arbitrary rule enforcement within the institution. Finally, I think many of us would also agree that long into their twenties, young Thais tend to be much less mentally and emotionally mature than their Western counterparts. I believe the strong reactions against such ideas shown here are largely a reflection of the remnants of anti-authority memes harking back to the youthful counterculture of the 60/70's, as well as due to the fact that those advocating such ideas in the West are often coming from a Christian idea of sex=sin. I believe the Buddhist ideas against letting materialism and sensual pleasure dominate your life are more because these are a distraction from what is really important, and IMO these ideas do have validity, even if they are a drop in the current zeitgeist ocean (in the midst of a consumerist/hedonist tsunami 8-) PS the above anti-"intellectual" comment above was posted while I was writing, and boy did it put me in my place. I'm so sorry for pitching my remarks at an inappropriate level for this forum. . . Edited January 31, 2011 by BigJohnnyBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.1designer-clothing.com/random-fashion-designer/which-country-has-the-sexiest-school-uniform/888/ Interesting results on that website which seems to refute the OP: Which Country Has the Sexiest School Uniform? * Japan (62%, 2,158 Votes) * Thailand (38%, 1,297 Votes) Total Voters: 3,456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSPS Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I am reminded of ancient times (the 1960s and 70s). At the time one of the columnists ins one of the english language newspapers wrote a (tongue in cheek) column positing that the major cause of traffic accidents in Bangkok was young ladies wearing the then prevalent miniskirts retrieving thing that they had dropped. Reviewing the photos I have from those time I realize that the skirts were indeed short enough that a shopgirl reaching for an item on a top shelf could easily bare all. Somehow we have lasted the past forty years without any major upheavals related to skirt lengths so I don't really think it is that serious of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gers1873 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Whether or not the uniform is 'sexy' or not is surely dependent upon who is acting as the 'clothes horse'. Thai female students tend to have nice trim figures. I bet a 300lb 16 year old American devouring an extra large pizza probably would look less appealing no matter how 'sexy' the uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseedaa Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i think the uniforms look very professional and actually allow the girls to learn better. i learn something also everytime i see these uniforms... how lucky i am to live here KEEP THE UNIFORMS THE WAY THEY ARE! I second that motion... nothing like Victory Monument on a morning or late afternoon... and whats better is that most of the girls are real nice and friendly... Rock on Thai female students.. keep the Minis where they belong..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 <br />Whether or not the uniform is 'sexy' or not is surely dependent upon who is acting as the 'clothes horse'. <br /><br />Thai female students tend to have nice trim figures.<br /><br />I bet a 300lb 16 year old American devouring an extra large pizza probably would look less appealing no matter how 'sexy' the uniform. <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br /><br /><br />Don't be so Shallow Gers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.1designer-clothing.com/random-fashion-designer/which-country-has-the-sexiest-school-uniform/888/ Interesting results on that website which seems to refute the OP: Which Country Has the Sexiest School Uniform? * Japan (62%, 2,158 Votes) * Thailand (38%, 1,297 Votes) Total Voters: 3,456 Fair point - I think some in depth research is called for. I will report back after I recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The Thai female teachers also help set the standards in the way they dress, usually just the same as the students. Come to think of it they are not much older. On a second point. Thai Education Authority should be thinking more about the low level of the education their students receive coupled with the almost complete lack of any discipline within the school, certainly in the private schools I'm aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeral Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Sexy" Yes if you have a fetish about schoolgirls.thailand forces young adults to dress like children. This says a lot about Thai male-dominated authorities A lot about Japanese predilection for very young girls , . .A lot about the status of females in Thailand and Japan..... ./and..........Very little about being sexy Edited January 31, 2011 by Deeral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeral Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The Thai female teachers also help set the standards in the way they dress, usually just the same as the students. Come to think of it they are not much older. On a second point. Thai Education Authority should be thinking more about the low level of the education their students receive coupled with the almost complete lack of any discipline within the school, certainly in the private schools I'm aware of. "The Thai female teachers also help set the standards in the way they dress, usually just the same as the students. Come to think of it they are not much older." - completely inaccurate view of the age range of lecturers and teachers.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majhiggins Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I am an an American and I live in Issan and have taught every level from Prathom through graduate school. I strenuously disagree that the students here are better behaved. I am appalled at the behavior that students here, especially at Mattayom level, get away with, at least when it's time for the Farang to teach them English. Of course the Thai teachers seem to keep them in-line with more than a little bit of physical coercion. If I were to have ever disrespected one of my foreign language teachers the way I have had students here disrespect me, and seen them disrespect other foreign teachers, I would have been suspended or expelled. The boys are especially horrible. City university girls especially in Bangkok wear short skirts and look very sexy I live in Issan and University girls still look very sexy even with their much longer skirts. I think it is good they all wear uniforms, it makes them all look equal NOT as contenders for the Miss Thailand fashion show Students go to University to study Not to enter into a fashion competition. Just look at the West, where students wear what they like. Bad manners and spending most of their time rebelling against anything that is flavour of the month . Thai students in Prathom and Mattayom schools are so much better behaved than in Western schools Could this be due to the strong dress code ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 World wide most all universities do NOT force adults to wear uniforms. This is just a symptom of Thailands ancient mindset about how to control youth, which is utterly out of tune with world standards. Unless you couldn't forced wearing of Chadors for muslim unis. No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends, so they use what assets they have by wearing the tightest clothes that show off what they have. If they were free to dress as they chose, in a reasonable manner, they likely would dress MORE conservatively relative to tightness and what they try and show. The 'authorities' are clueless about all this. I agree with this but find it hysterical how the old fogies' attempts to control youth backfire on them. They will never win this one. They will have to scrap uniforms or let it go on as it is. Scrapping them is probably the answer to their problem. Some would wear very sexy outfits but most would look like the girls you see around Ramkhamhaeng wearing faded jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hee Hee, I'm the lucky one. I live close to Ramkhamhaeng 2 Uni. No need ror photo's But really it sure is good to know that the powers to be in Thailand have nothing else to worry about jb1 I'm moving to a house in a development alongside Rajabhat Uni in Phuket. It's going to be a hard life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deeral Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Uniforms are nothing to do with "being equal"!!!!! Uniforms are a way of imposing conformity and suppressing free thought etc. the last thing a University needs of its students - or even a school for that matter.to extend this ridiculous practice to universities is quite unconscionable As for behaviour, what on earth do people mean by "better behaviour"??????A class of zombies or Largactilites would be "well behaved" but they would certainly not be "good students" having taught in several countries at most age groups, I'd say that Thai students are in general far more docile than their counterparts in other countries. I wouldn't say that they were better students. Surely whether your students are "well behaved" is largely a personal judgement by their teacher. .....and a reflection on how they run a lesson. as for respect - well........that's something you EARN not automatically DESERVE, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeral Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 World wide most all universities do NOT force adults to wear uniforms. This is just a symptom of Thailands ancient mindset about how to control youth, which is utterly out of tune with world standards. Unless you couldn't forced wearing of Chadors for muslim unis. No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends, so they use what assets they have by wearing the tightest clothes that show off what they have. If they were free to dress as they chose, in a reasonable manner, they likely would dress MORE conservatively relative to tightness and what they try and show. The 'authorities' are clueless about all this. I agree with this but find it hysterical how the old fogies' attempts to control youth backfire on them. They will never win this one. They will have to scrap uniforms or let it go on as it is. Scrapping them is probably the answer to their problem. Some would wear very sexy outfits but most would look like the girls you see around Ramkhamhaeng wearing faded jeans. good point - the more those grey "they" try to "regulate" anything, uniforms, art, poetry free speech, whatever, the better the protagonists become at flouting the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 All I can say is if we had uniforms like these when I was going to Uni back then (way back) I would have 3 PHDs by now. YES and probably still be at UNI.....................lololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This blouse isn't so tight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The Thai female teachers also help set the standards in the way they dress, usually just the same as the students. Come to think of it they are not much older. On a second point. Thai Education Authority should be thinking more about the low level of the education their students receive coupled with the almost complete lack of any discipline within the school, certainly in the private schools I'm aware of. "The Thai female teachers also help set the standards in the way they dress, usually just the same as the students. Come to think of it they are not much older." - completely inaccurate view of the age range of lecturers and teachers.! Not sure what Uni's, schools you are talking about but the one's I'm aware of in Chiang Mai, usually recruit Thai teachers straight out of Uni. They cost less than the often "stuck in their ways" oldies that just want to have an easy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elshaheen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) World wide most all universities do NOT force adults to wear uniforms. This is just a symptom of Thailands ancient mindset about how to control youth, which is utterly out of tune with world standards. Unless you couldn't forced wearing of Chadors for muslim unis. No young girl wants to look like just another cipher in the same clothes as ALL her friends, so they use what assets they have by wearing the tightest clothes that show off what they have. If they were free to dress as they chose, in a reasonable manner, they likely would dress MORE conservatively relative to tightness and what they try and show. The 'authorities' are clueless about all this. Esp. When they don't wear panties underneath and sit down anyplace. And you hear a student say, I can see "BUSH". Edited January 31, 2011 by elshaheen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayroo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Indeed they are sexy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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