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Based on my four trips to Siem Reap, you are much better off with a good Ankor Wat guidebook.  They can easily be purchased before you leave or when you arrive.

guess it's luck, as we had both times excellent guides, who really explained the significence and stories behind the sculpures of Angkor, as well as other temples.

but buying a guide before going is certainly an excellent idea, I would try to get anything like "Angkor" by Dawn Rooney, Odyssey guides, ISBN 962-217-601-1,

which is one of the best guide books I've ever seen.

Posted

This has turned into travel related thread so I am moving to the correct forum.

Great information so far, keep it up guys.

Posted

Jai Dee: Went there a few years ago by road from Bangkok. I was warned the road was tough, and was warned they tend to switch vehicles on you. Well...all I can say is I was warned. I would never do that again. Flying is the only way to go.

We got to the border and had a 3 hour wait until pickup trucks came to take us to SR. Yes, 12+ farang stuffed on top of our gear in the bed of a truck...and it already had some stuff in it.

At the river crossings we all had to get out, in knee deep water, and help push the truck to get it across. We were filthy when we got to SR.

Heard from some other travelers that their bus had tried to make it. One group spent the night in the middle of the river. And I heard of one Japanese girl who fell off the back and cracked her skull. Had to take a helo back to BKK.

But, once we got to SR it was awesome. Got a great guide from our hotel for 3 full days. SR is not that great, but the ruins are incredible. You can also take that boat to PP. Not a bad ride. And then fly back from there....

FYI!

Craig

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PLAN

SUGGESTED ITINERARIES

FOR ONE MORNING

Angkor Wat, Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang.

Distance - 27 kilometres.

FOR ONE AFTERNOON

The Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang, Angkor Wat.

Distance - 30 kilometres.

FOR ONE DAY

morning

The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traverse from east to west), the terrace of the Leper King.

Distance - 37 kilometres.

afternoon

The Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang, Angkor Wat.

Distance - 30 kilometres.

FOR TWO DAYS

first day

morning

The Bayon, the terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay,

the Royal Palace, the Baphuon.

Distance - 20 kilometres.

afternoon

The small circuit via the Royal Palace, the Victory Gate, Ta Prohm (traverse from west to east), Banteay Kdei (ditto), the terrace of Srah Srang, and possibly Phnom Bakheng.

Distance - 27 and 32 kilometres.

second day

morning

The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Banteay Samre, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traversed from east to west)

Distance - 46 kilometres.

afternoon

Angkor Wat

Distance - 12 kilometres.

FOR THREE DAYS

first day

morning

The Bayon, the terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay, the Royal Palace, the Baphuon

Distance - 20 kilometres.

afternoon

The Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say, Takeo, on returning Phnom Bakheng

Distance - 26 kilometres.

second day

morning

The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traversing from east to west)

Distance - 37 kilometres.

afternoon

Prasat Kravan, Ta Prohm (traversing from west to east), Banteay Kdei (traversing from west to east), the terrace of Srah Srang.

Distance - 26 kilometres.

third day

morning

Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei

Distance - 70 kilometres.

afternoon

Angkor Wat

Distance - 12 kilometres.

FOR FOUR DAYS

first day

morning

The Bayon, terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay,

the Royal Palace

Distance - 20 kilometres.

afternoon

Baphuon, the Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say, on returning Phnom Bakheng

Distance - 24 kilometres.

second day

morning

Takeo, Ta Prohm (crossing from west to east), Banteay Kdei

(crossing from west to east), the terrace or Srah Srang, Prasat Kravan.

Distance - 28 kilometres.

afternoon

Angkor Wat

Distance - 12 kilometres.

third day

morning

The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (passing through from east to west)

Distance - 37 kilometres.

afternoon

Siem Reap river and Phnom Krom

Distance - 25 kilometres.

fourth day

morning

Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei

Distance - 70 kilometres.

afternoon

The Roluos group (Bakong, Prah Ko), the western baray (swimming)

Distance - 54 kilometres.

FOR FIVE DAYS

first day

morning

The Bayon, the terrace of the Elephants and of the Leper King,

Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay, the Royal Palace.

Distance - 20 kilometres

afternoon

The Baphuon, the Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say

Distance - 24 kilometres

second day

morning

Takeo, Ta Prohm (crossing from west to east), Banteay Kdei

(crossing from west to east), the terrace of Srah Srang, Prasat Kravan.

Distance - 28 kilometres.

afternoon

The Bayon (to study the bas-reliefs), Phnom Bakheng.

third day

morning

The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan, (passing from east to west)

Distance - 37 kilometres.

afternoon

Angkor Wat

Distance - 12 kilometres.

fourth day

morning

Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei

Distance - 70 kilometres.

afternoon

Siem Reap river, Phnom Krom

Distance - 25 kilometres.

fifth day

morning

The Roluos group (Bakong, Prah Ko, perhaps also Lolei)

Distance - 28 and 30 kilometres.

afternoon

Angkor Wat (to study the bas-reliefs), western baray (swimming)

Distance - 38 kilometres.

FOR SIX DAYS AND MORE

Ad libitum, including the secondary temples and,

perhaps, with an excursion to Beng Mealea (a day trip)

Distance - 100 kilometres.

from theangkorguide

Posted

Angkor wat is amazing, the best landmark I've visited (put the pyramids to shame). It's one of those places where everyone should try and visit at least once in their lifetime. It really is something special.

Bakong is probably the most impressive part of the place, although everything has a great significance.

Enjoy, I'm sure you'll love it!

Posted (edited)

and dont forget to go here

artisans d' angkor

expensive souvenir but you can see all process that they're craving on sand stone(no need to buy..and its free for see around)

Bambi :o

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Posted (edited)

The Small Circuit takes in several of the major and minor temples in the area. Beginning at Angkor Wat and running for seventeen kilometers the circuit takes in the major elements of Angkor Thom, Ta Phrohm, and Banteay Kdei, and some of the minor but interesting temples such as the Baphoun, The Terrace of the Leper King, The Terrace of the Elephants, the Twelve Prasats, Spean Thma and Sras Srang before returning to Angkor Wat.

The twenty-six kilometer Grand Circuit is an extension on the little circuit but taking in Preah Khan, Preah Neak Pean to the Eastern Mebon and the various monuments like Ta Som, Preah Rup, before returnin to Angkor Wat and is highly recommended for anyone spending three or more days in the complex. The Big Circuit encompasses a good representation of the rich variety of architecture here.

FULL DAY BICYCLE RIDE (FD)

FD.1: Siem Reap- Small Circuit- Siem Reap

(Ride distance from 28 to 38 kilometres )

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Morning: First discovery:

(Ride range from 10 to 20 kilometres, depending of customer's request)

Ride from Siem Reap to Angkor Wat , following countryside trail and then paved road of Small circuit. Stop and visit Angkor Wat. Ride on to Bayon. Lunch.

Afternoon: Small circuit;

(Ride distance 18 kilometres)

From Bayon to Phnom Bakheng through Terraces of Elephants and Leper King, Death Gate and Victory Gate, Ta Prohm and Sra Srang. End of ride at Phnom Bakheng before sunset.

FD.2: Siem Reap- Bantey Srei- Grand Circuit- Siem Reap (Ride distance 52 kilometres)

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Morning : Banteay Srei and Grand Circuit .

(Ride distance 31 kilometres)

Early transfer to Banteay Srei. After visit, ride on secondary and mainly unpaved road until Preak Khan and then Neak Pean..Lunch.

Afternoon : Neak Pean- Banteay Kdei-Siem Reap. (Ride distance 21 kilometres ).

After visit of Neak Pean, ride to Banteay Kdei and back to town on Small Circuit road and countryside trail

Siem Reap:

Siem Reap (or defeat of Siam) ...definitely the gateway to the temples of Angkor. A couple of years ago, apart from the Old Market area, some old French shophouses, one 5 star hotel and several so-called deluxe tourist hotels as well as guesthouses, Siem Reap was just a sleepy town.

Now there seems to be a gold rush! Restaurants and guesthouses seem to open weekly, hotels monthly, internet shops are easier and better to find than elsewhere in Western countries (!), and the guides I talked to said that the number of travelers is increasing very fast and they do expect big changes!

Indeed, meanwhile Siem Reap has become a really great place to stay and many even decide to stay up to one week (thanks to the excellent facilities) to enjoy the temple sites. It's an adventure par excellence!

From the early 9th century on, after the first independent Khmer kingdom was founded by King Jayavarman II, until 1431, when a large part of the population emigrated a few hundred kilometres to the southeast, Angkor was the capital of a Khmer state which in its prime covered the major part of Southeast Asia - from present-day Myanmar to present-day southern Vietnam, from today's southern Chinese province of Yunnan deep down the Malayan peninsula.

Please note: You better buy a guide book - the information here is just a short introduction of some major of the 292 temples in Siem Reap...

The ROULOUS GROUP is the site of an ancient center of Khmer civilization known as Hariharalaya.
9th Century:

Prasat Prah Ko (The Sacred Ox)

Prasat Prah Ko, one of the oldest temples, is located at Roluos between Bakong and Lolei. It was built in the late ninth century (879) by King Indravarman I, dedicated to Shiva (Hindu), and a  funeral temple built for the king's family and the previous King Jayavarman II and his wife.

Prasat Bakong

Built in late ninth century (881) by King Indravarman I, and dedicated to Siva (Hindu), it followed the Prah Ko art style. Bakong was the center of the town of Hariharalaya.

It was profaned during fighting and the court moved once again. Indravarman's son Yacovarman I was sacred in 889. The court was displaced to a site 15 km northwest of Phnom Bakheng, establishing the first city of Angkor.

Prasat Lolei

A small temple and not only the last to visit at the Roulous Group but it was also the last temple constructed there before King Yasovarman I moved the capital to the Angkor area. You will find there some exquisite carvings and inscriptions on the lintels.

Phnom Bakheng,

built by King Yasovarman I, is the centre of the first kingdom of Angkor (or Yasodharapura) and a replica of the Bakong at Roluos. "Phnom" means "hill" in the Khmer language. Phnom Bakheng is the only natural hill (65 metres) and just a few hundred metres south of the Angkor Thom gate. It's THE 'sunset hill' nowadays - hundreds of people waiting with their cameras...

Phnom Bakheng

Prasat Kravanh

10th Century:

Prasat Kravanh (Towers of the Tight-Rope Dancers)

This temple was not constructed by a king, but by a nobleman. Prasat Kravanh is a brick structure reknowned for the remarkable brick sculptures on its interior walls depicting Vishnu and Lakshimi. It is unique in style and different from the other temples at Angkor.

Prasat Baksei Chamkrong (The Bird that shelters under its Wing)

King Hasavarman I dedicated it to his father, Yasovarman I. This small Hindu temple formerly housed a golden image of Shiva and can be spotted to the left when entering Angkor Thom from the southern gate.

Prasat Prea Rup (Change the Body),

built in the early Angkor era by King Rajendravarman II (944-968), may have been used for cremations - it's just down the road and similar in style to East Mebon. This architecturally dramatic tempel is considered superior in terms of the carvings on its false doors. The view from the top is breathtaking: Eastwards towards the Kulen Hills and westwards towards Angkor Wat.

Prasat Banteay Srei (Citadel of the Women)

This magnificent tempel was built by King Rayendravarman and later completed by King Jayavarman V.

11th Century:

Prasat Mebon Oriental

Located 4 km west of Angkor Thom, it was built in the second half of the 11th century by King Udayadityavarman II and dedicated to Visnu (Hindu), following the Prasat Baphuon art style. To get there, you have to take a boat to the island in the center on an artificial lake and then walk to the east eantrance of the temple.

West Baray

King Suryavarman I started the largest ancient Khmer pond (respectively reservoir) which was completed by King Udayadityavarman II. Apart from Srah Srang, which is pretty small, this one is the only Baray left which still has water in it!

A short boat ride on West Baray at Angkor will take you to an island where we can see traces of the West Mebon Temple.

Prasat Baphuon (The Golden Tower, aka The Big Jigsaw Puzzle)

Prasat Phimeanakas (The Celestial Palace)

This was the palace of King Suryavarman I, built around the beginning of the 11th century. It was built within a 5 m high wall made of laterite; another wall was later added. In the middle of the complex there is a three-tiered laterite pyramid in a rectangular plain.

Prasat Takeo (The Crystal Tower)

A tall but plainly designed temple mountain. This is the first temple constructed wholly of sandstone.

Prasat Chau Say Tevoda

Together with the Thommanon Temple (King Suriavarman II) these small temples are often referred as brother-sister temples. They were constructed in the pure classical style of the Angkor Wat architecture.

Kbal Spean,

started by King Suryavarman I and completed by King Udayadityavarman II, is a 2 hour ride from Siem Reap, on the route to Banteay Srei. To reach this spectacular carved riverbed, called the 'River of a 1,000 Lingas' (for the hundreds of Shiva symbols painstakingly etched into the rock), you need to walk about another 40 minutes (moderately) uphill.

Kbal Spean 

12th Century:

Prasat Thommanon

Small, beautiful temple in good condition. The colours of the age-stained sandstone against the jungle are very photogenic.

Prasat Angkor Wat (the city which was a temple)

The most famous temple ground in the entire Angkor plain, it rivals the Seven Wonders of the World. The name "Angkor" is derived from the Sanskrit word "flagara", meaning "city" or "capital".

It was built by King Suryavarman II in the middle of the 12th century over a period of about 30 years. The reign of Suryavarman II also marked the high point of Khmer teritorial expansion. Like many other Khmer temples, Angkor Wat was built as architectural allegory of the Hindu religion. The central tower stands for Mount Meru, the center of the universe according to Hindu mythology; the top of Mount Meru is considered to be the home of the gods. There are two entrances to the Angkor Wat - the east entrance and the west entrance. Both entrances are guarded on both sides by statues of Vishnu.

The temple ground is surrounded by a wall and a moat, not only for demarcation purposes, but also because in Hindu mythology Mount Meru is surrounded by other mountain ranges and oceans. The whole complex occupies an area of 1,950,000 square meters. The numerous temples found there were built from granite and sandstone. Not a single metal bar was used. The rocks used for building came from a place called Plon Klon Mountain, 40 km away.

Prasat Thommanon

Prasat Angkor Wat

Prasat Angkor Thom

Angkor Thom was the work of the greatest of the Khmer architect-kings: Jayavarman VII (ruled 1181-1219). Angkor Thom is the inner royal city, built at the end of the 12th century during the reign of King Jayavarman VII, shortly after Angkor had been conquered and burnt down by the Chams.

Prasat Bayon (The Temple of Stone Faces)

Built nearly 100 years after Angkor Wat by Jayavarman VII, it is one of the most stunning temples and sits exactly in the middle of Angkor Thom. The temple (also known as the Temple of mysterious, enigmatic smiling Gods) is today best known for the gigantic face sculptures (more than 200 of them) that adorn its thirty-seven surviving towers. The faces are thought to be the composite of King Jayavarman VII and Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara, a Buddhist deity. Facing in four directions on each tower, the faces signify the King’s omnipresence, watchful protection, and projecting benevolence outward to the four directions.

Prasat Bayon 

The Elephant Terrace and the Leper King Terrace,

massive walls, two and a half meters high, form part of a series of terraces in Angkor Thom, and were built by Jayavarman VII. The elephant terrace was dedicated to Buddhism as the Leper King Terrace (called so because a few of the Angkor kings were known to have had contracted this disease) and was supposedly a funeral pyre.

 

 

 

The Elephant Terrace and the Leper King Terrace 

Prasat Ta Prohm (The Ancestor Brahma),

was constructed during the reign of King Jayavarman VII, and dedicated to his mother. Later it was restored and enlarged by his son. This temple supposedly inspired Rudyard Kipling to write 'The Jungle Book'. After its restoration it intendedly 'was left to nature'; so visitors can enjoy this magic temple as a classic jungle ruin.

 

Prasat Ta Prohm 

Prasat Ta Som (The Ancestor Som)

This buddhist temple built by King Jayavarman VII is just a Mini Ta Phrom - also here the picturesque East Gopura is held together by roots of a tree growing from the top.

Prasat Preah Kahn (The Sacred Sword)

is another masterpiece built by King Jayavarman VII, and his former residence while his palace was under construction. Later he dedicated this temple to his father, (whereas Ta Prohm was dedicated to his mother). Originally this was once a buddhist temple, not only housing over 1,000 monks, but also 515 statues of which 2 are now in a museum in Paris. Also here it was decided to leave the temple to nature.

Prasat Neak Pean (Temple of the Entwined Serpents)

Built in the second half of the 12th century by King Jayavarman VII, it was dedicated to Buddhism and follows the Prasat Bayon art style - it's a large square man-made pond (70 meters (230 feet) on each side), surrounded with stairs and a sanctuary in the centre on a small island and surrounded by four smaller ponds.

Prasat Banteay Kdei (The Citadel of Chambers)

Built at the end of the 12th century by king Jayavarman VII and dedicated to Buddhism, it follows at least two different art periods - Angkor Wat and Bayon. Banteay Kdei was built of soft sandstone and many of the galleries and porches have collapsed and it has not been restored - you may experience what it may have looked like at the end of 12th century!

Prasat Suor Prat (Towers of the Tight-Rope Dancers)

is also called the Suor Prat Towers. It is an alignment of 12 identical towers with unknown function. Nice to view from a distance, but not impressive up close.

Prasat Ta Nei,

Late 12th century - this Bayon-style temple is located deep in the forest. The temple offers very nice and interesting pediments.

Srah Srang (The Royal Bathing Pool)

Srah Srang is a picturesque reservoir of 300 x 700 meters with a beautiful terrace in the shape of a cross on the West side. Stairways lead to the water, guarded by stone Nagas, godly snakes, and mythical Garuda birds. It's a good place to view the sunrise!

The Palace Area of Angkor Thom

is located directly to the north of the Bayon. Its basic features were laid out during the reign of King Suryavarman I, 150 years before the construction of Angkor Thom. From the center of the palace complex rose the Heavenly Palace, Phimeanakas. The king of the Khmer always used to spend the first part of each night in the uppermost part of this Heavenly Palace, where according to legend he had sexual intercourse with the sun queen.

Remodeled more than once by several monarchs, time and jungle have left their mark on the stones and the palace is now in poor condition.

Among the 292 temples in Siem Reap, the most interesting structures certainly are Angkor Wat and Angkor Thom with the Bayon. 

From many sites :o:D

Edited by BambinA
Posted

Thanks everyone for your great replies... you especially Bambi (do you ever sleep?) :o

:D

I am planning this trip in about 2 weeks time, so the weather is likely to be damp (if it's anything like the Eastern Seaboard of Thailand is like now).

What else do I need to know?

Posted
A trip to Angkor Wat is on my agenda... a place that I've heard a lot about but have never had the chance to visit.

Ideally, I would like to drive there in my own car, but I'm not sure of the legality of driving a Thai registered vehicle in Cambodia.

Also, I have some concern over the condition of the roads between the Thai border and Siem Reap.

Has anyone done it and can offer some advice?

I went to Ankhor Wat a couple of years ago by plane... (Direct flight to Siam Reap form Bkk) and have wanted to drive there ever since.

I've put up a posting on this site about taking the pickup…

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16109&hl=

and this one…

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22463&hl=

It is certainly legal to take a vehicle from Thailand to Cambodia, but I've never managed to sort out all the ins and outs of it.

I think getting through the border both ways is reasonably straight forward but there seems to be some debate as to where you are allowed to go once into Cambodia. Insurance - I don't know…. Carnet? - don’t know… Roads - take a 4WD vehicle!

The distance to AW from Poi pet is not that great but I reckon you'd be best off waiting to the end of the rainy season.

Once you get to AW, the hotels in Siam Reap are fine for any pocket and there's car parking (how secure??). If you intend to tour the temples, you'll need 2/3 days at least. I hired I man and motorbike for about $20 per day, I think, (you were not allowed to hire motor vehicles then). A 3 day pass was about $60.00. It was whilst being driven around the temples that I realised how good it would be to have my own transport, this begs the question if I did, would I be allowed into the temple area with it? And how much?

The general opinion seems to be that the roads are being gradually improved and the journey from Poi Pet is OK with 4WD.

Do let me know if you’re going to do this trip, I’m dying to do it myself and would certainly like to do it in convoy from safety point of view…if only to have a second vehicle to pull one out of the mud!!!

Posted
Do let me know if you’re going to do this trip, I’m dying to do it myself and would certainly like to do it in convoy from safety point of view…if only to have a second vehicle to pull one out of the mud!!!

We're definitely doing it wilko... we're a party of 2 farangs, 4 thais, and a luk kreung child... a big family outing so to speak. :o

Our latest thoughts surround hiring a minibus and driver from Surin, and heading to SR from there... better roads too I believe.

  • 1 year later...
Posted (edited)

UPDATE

I chose this thread, although it's a bit older, for several reasons...

It's got the name in the thread title for easy find

It's got terrificly detailed information

It's got tremendous photographs

It's got wonderful advice

It's all written an exceptionally fun and helpful manner

AND

We never heard back from Jai Dee on how his trip went.... or even, if he did go? :o

How was it, mate? :D

Anyway.... anyone with updated recommendations?

In view of the below news, we're going in December...

Angkor show boosts Khmer profile

The show at the ancient Khmer historical site is said to be the first of its kind in Cambodia

A new attraction will be added to Cambodia's famous World Heritage site Angkor Wat: a light & sound extravaganza. The grand show, "The Legend of Angkor Wat: When History Comes to Life", will feature over 150 stage performers, a 12x30-metre waterscreen and a variety of special effects. Designed to give audience a more vivid picture of the past glory of the ancient Khmer Kingdom as well as the beliefs and lifestyles of its people, the show will take place daily from November 24 to January 20, 2008, on the lawns behind Angkor Wat. According to Bayon CM Organizer, a Cambodian-Thai joint venture that runs the show, there will be no use of explosives for special effects as that can harm the World Heritage site. The performance, both its content and operation, has been approved by Apsara Authority, the agency that oversees the protection and management of Angkor and other historical sites in Siem Reap. Tickets for the one-hour show are priced at US$60 and 80 - the latter, if it's not for the front-row seats, will include an international buffet dinner at 7pm, an hour before the show starts.

For details, visit this web site:

http://www.angkorwatshow.com

Continued here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/Horizons/06Sep2007_hori04.php

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surprisingly well-done website above

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Posted

I know it's any old thread but I've just read it and I must be the only person who was bored stupid by the end of a supposed 3 day tour of Angkor Wat!

I made it half way through the 2nd day and I just said to my guide - take me back to my hotel!!

The amount of annoying and pestering people wanting to sell things in the place is just unbelieveable you can move without nearly tripping over some hawker. Even a policeman trying sell you his badge.

As for the view on the hill for the sunset .. .. rubbish .. .. nothing spectacular about the sunset in the slightest. The sunsets opposite to the Angkor Wat building so you see the sun setting over dense plain vegetation. . .. whoopie do! The real pictures are if you can get your arse in for the sunrise over the wat.

In general the experience is just temple after temple after temple . . I heard a someone say the following quote when I was there: 'here is one pile of rocks and here is another . .' and funnily I was thinking exactly the same thing at the same time! It's only saving grace is the tomb raider temple . . that's the interesting place and the temples on the outer edge.

The main temple is just horrendous to visit when I went just full of Japanese whordes elbowing everyone and anyone out of there way.

Can't say I enjoyed Cambodia in any shape or form when I visited.

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