Marriage To Thai With Child And Uk Visa

[evancon]

Can anyone shine some light on my problem PLEASE...

I am British and live in the UK i have plans to get married to a Thai women, then apply for a visa at the British Embassy.

My problem is my future wife has a 6 year boy from a previous relationship, the father has nothing to do with the child and it may not be possible to contact him, the child has his fathers surname, we need to get a passport in his mothers surname to make it easier and that we have less complications when applying for a settlement uk visa.

Could any member please help and explain the procedure or give me a plan of action if im wrong.

Thanking All in Advance

[starship]

Hi. I was in a similar situation before. My thai partner arranged the paperwork. What she got was a document saying that she was and had been the sole guardian (i.e the father was out of the picture). I know she said before that it was extremely difficult to get. At the time she was doing some work experience in a government department and her senior manager who she was friendly with assisted in getting it. I remember her saying that she would'nt have got it without help from a senior government figure although if this was true i don't know. A lot of beaurocracy here seems to involve having a thai person guarantee/vouch/sponser for you. I don't know where she got it from but inquiring at a government office or police station someone might be able to point you in the right direction other than other TV members.

Anyway good luck.

[ThaisGood]

I would estimate more farang marry Thai women who already had a kid, than marry Thai women who have no kids. The father is usually "nowhere to be found". Nothing new. Should be no problem.

[evancon]

Thank you for the advice, but i need to know the procedure

Hi. I was in a similar situation before. My thai partner arranged the paperwork. What she got was a document saying that she was and had been the sole guardian (i.e the father was out of the picture). I know she said before that it was extremely difficult to get. At the time she was doing some work experience in a government department and her senior manager who she was friendly with assisted in getting it. I remember her saying that she would'nt have got it without help from a senior government figure although if this was true i don't know. A lot of beaurocracy here seems to involve having a thai person guarantee/vouch/sponser for you. I don't know where she got it from but inquiring at a government office or police station someone might be able to point you in the right direction other than other TV members.

Anyway good luck.

[evancon]

Thank you for the advice, but i need to know the procedure

I would estimate more farang marry Thai women who already had a kid, than marry Thai women who have no kids. The father is usually "nowhere to be found". Nothing new. Should be no problem.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Don't expect this all to happen quickly, will definitely take many months, quite possibly a year or two before you're all done.

First, make sure your fiancee understands that she needs to be straight with you, as the legal requirements will probably out the truth anyway - is the father truly not reachable? More likely she just doesn't want to deal with all the social/emotional issues of renewing contact, primarily face issues.

Second, ASAP establish the genuine basis of your relationship with your lady - timestamped photos, co-signed official paperwork - house leases, bank accounts etc, reputable (by Thai standards) witnesses.

Get married - legally (the religious ceremony/family parties are irrelevant legally).

Do your research on satisfying the UK embassy/government on their visa requirements. Most likely you will need to wait until some time has passed before your first application, so they can see it's a legitimate relationship. Others can better advise, I'd think at least three to six months from the official marriage. If her English isn't great, get her enrolled in a decent TEFL course.

Do your best to locate the father. Get him to sign his rights to the child away - you'll probably have to pay him off for this - IMO as long as we're not talking unreasonable amounts, don't fight it.

If he truly isn't locatable, then this is where everything gets much MORE difficult (not that the rest is easy). A court will have to give a ruling taking his rights away, your wife will have to prove he hasn't taken any responsibility since the birth and hasn't been locatable. This is where social standing and connections would be very helpful, or failing that a good lawyer and a bit of money - and again, in any case, quite a bit of time and effort.

Do your research on adoption procedures. Probably best to get a lawyer involved, but a trip to your wife's local amphoe office might be somewhat educational, again, especially if she has some local "hi-class" connections.

Hope this is helpful

[evancon]

Thank you for this information, its just what we need to be on the wright track, i am very greatful

Don't expect this all to happen quickly, will definitely take many months, quite possibly a year or two before you're all done.

First, make sure your fiancee understands that she needs to be straight with you, as the legal requirements will probably out the truth anyway - is the father truly not reachable? More likely she just doesn't want to deal with all the social/emotional issues of renewing contact, primarily face issues.

Second, ASAP establish the genuine basis of your relationship with your lady - timestamped photos, co-signed official paperwork - house leases, bank accounts etc, reputable (by Thai standards) witnesses.

Get married - legally (the religious ceremony/family parties are irrelevant legally).

Do your research on satisfying the UK embassy/government on their visa requirements. Most likely you will need to wait until some time has passed before your first application, so they can see it's a legitimate relationship. Others can better advise, I'd think at least three to six months from the official marriage. If her English isn't great, get her enrolled in a decent TEFL course.

Do your best to locate the father. Get him to sign his rights to the child away - you'll probably have to pay him off for this - IMO as long as we're not talking unreasonable amounts, don't fight it.

If he truly isn't locatable, then this is where everything gets much MORE difficult (not that the rest is easy). A court will have to give a ruling taking his rights away, your wife will have to prove he hasn't taken any responsibility since the birth and hasn't been locatable. This is where social standing and connections would be very helpful, or failing that a good lawyer and a bit of money - and again, in any case, quite a bit of time and effort.

Do your research on adoption procedures. Probably best to get a lawyer involved, but a trip to your wife's local amphoe office might be somewhat educational, again, especially if she has some local "hi-class" connections.

Hope this is helpful