Thaksin Banned Two Pheu Thai MPs, Party Source Says

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Two Pheu Thai MPs banned, party source says

By THE NATION

Thaksin Shinawatra, de-facto leader of the opposition Pheu Thai Party, has banned at least two incumbent MPs suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election, a party source said yesterday.

Pheu Thai former secretary-general Supol Fong-ngam and MP Chavalit Vichayasut have been punished as a warning to possible defectors, according to the source.

No short messages were sent to inform them about yesterday's party meeting.

Supol is close to Mingkwan Sangsuwan, the party's prime ministerial candidate in the recent censure debate who has since fallen out of favour with party chief Thaksin.

Chavalit is a close aide to Pheu Thai's former chairman Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, who recently left the party amid speculation he was upset with certain party members who allegedly made remarks offensive to the monarchy.

A source close to Supol said yesterday that he might give up politics for a while as he would find it difficult to join another party.

Chavalit, the party MP, said he would decide in a week if he would leave politics or stay on. He said he had not got any message from Pheu Thai about yesterday's party meeting.

Mingkwan's close party colleague, Pheu Thai MP Surasit Jiamvichak, said yesterday that Mingkwan told him last week he would not move to another political party. Surasit said he did not think other party MPs would follow Mingkwan if he did defect. He said he backed Mingkwan as the party's PM candidate because he viewed him as the best choice.

Mingkwan could not be reached by phone yesterday.

-- The Nation 2011-04-26

[rubl]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Edited April 26, 2011 by rubl

[whybother]

They think they've been dumped from the party by DL because they didn't receive an SMS??

[Buchholz]

The Pheu Thai Party Secretary-General who resigned last week, Supol Fong-ngam, is a constituency MP from Ubon Ratchathani.

The aide to the Pheu Thai Party Chairman Chavalit, who resigned last week, Chawalit Wichayasut, is a Party-list MP for the Pheu Thai Party.

Chawalit was also the Pheu Thai Party's Deputy Secretary-General.

In combination with last month's resignation of the Pheu Thai Party MP Chairman Chalerm the Party has lost it's:

Party Chairman

Party Secretary-General

Party Deputy Secretary-General

Party MP Chairman

have thus decimated the Executive Board of the Pheu Thai Party.

They have all been "de-listed" from the new Party-list MP roster.

.

Edited April 26, 2011 by Buchholz

[geriatrickid]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

[whybother]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

[rubl]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

A political party indeed has the freedom to select who of it's members may stand as candidate and who not. In normal parties that's a democratic process, with discussions, voting, and the like. With PTP their slogan is proven again to be true 'k. Thaksin thinks, PTP does'

The two members barred from standing candidate for PTP may indeed resign and join another party and stand as candidate for that other party. I'm not sure what the limitations are, how long does a member have to be member in order to be able to stand as candidate?

[animatic]

Thaksin just raises his undemocratic credentials another notch for sure.

And yes the Executive board is decimated. All directly because of Thaksin.

Any guess about whom Thaksin will now install as ineffectual. sacrificial lambs as Executive Board, similar to the sublimely effect 'Party Leader' Youngyuth?

I do like the

'don't tell you about the meeting' as a pink slip notice their out.

So Thai to avoid telling them to their face they are out.

No confrontation,

just don't contact them anymore.

Being out of the loop is real political death here.

Edited April 26, 2011 by animatic

[animatic]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

A political party indeed has the freedom to select who of it's members may stand as candidate and who not. In normal parties that's a democratic process, with discussions, voting, and the like. With PTP their slogan is proven again to be true 'k. Thaksin thinks, PTP does'

The two members barred from standing candidate for PTP may indeed resign and join another party and stand as candidate for that other party. I'm not sure what the limitations are, how long does a member have to be member in order to be able to stand as candidate?

Besides a party vote for who stands for a seat, or at least membership,

the executive board is who would make punitive decisions, in this case the absconded dictator financing the charade, err party, punishes the executie board with banishment to purgatory. Sorry disloyal campers, no access to the trough for you, for 4 years..

Nah, Thaksin won't take revenge on anyone...

Edited April 26, 2011 by animatic

[otherstuff1957]

In all fairness, we should remember that PT stated that their executives would all resign prior to the election, so that they would not be banned from politics when the party is banned for vote buying..

Of course, they could just refrain from vote buying!

[Crushdepth]

Democracy Thaksin style, most amusing. The man is a despot.

[Ricardo]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

I quite agree, the party has the right to decide on its candidates, although it's not clear that the party were actually consulted by the owner, before he made this decision, but that's 'true democracy' for you.

But isn't this a sad way to reward these MPs' previous loyalty to PTP, one was a former secretary-general of the party, and he finds out he's been dumped in such an unseemly manner, just before an election ?

Never mind, I'm sure it was all in the best interests, of Distant Leader 'the poor'.

But Mingkwan really ought to take the strong hint, which he's being given by this action, or show a distinct lack-of-loyalty to his own supporters, who had backed his own failed-bid for the PM-nomination so recently.

[givenall]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

You are only my FRIEND if you do exactly what I tell you

[timekeeper]

its my bat and ball and if you don't want to play the game by my rules i am taking away the bat and ball................

[geriatrickid]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

[whybother]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

That is still usually done by the members or by the party leadership group, not by an individual.

In Australia (at all levels - Federal, State and Local), the members decide who will stand in a particular electorate. Would they be considered unsuitable if that's what the members wanted?

[jdinasia]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

Pardon me? No different than in the West? I seem to remember something about it being against the law for Thaksin to be directly involved in politics ....... I am fairly sure that Thaksin isn't listed officially on any PTP stuff (except their new slogan which could possibly get PTP disbanded.)

[scorecard]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

That is still usually done by the members or by the party leadership group, not by an individual.

In Australia (at all levels - Federal, State and Local), the members decide who will stand in a particular electorate. Would they be considered unsuitable if that's what the members wanted?

Recently a group of 40 announced they would defect, then they were convinced to stay.

Just wondering if the news in this thread will make the group of 40 reconsider their best long-term interets.

But hey, maybe none of this true at all, thaksin has stated numerous times before that has withdrawn from politics and has stated numerous times that he not the leader or influencer of PT or the reds.

Maybe it's all just a bad nightmare, especially for the rural poor who are clearly just pawns for thaksin to manipulate for his own ego and riches!

[Chang_paarp]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

That is still usually done by the members or by the party leadership group, not by an individual.

In Australia (at all levels - Federal, State and Local), the members decide who will stand in a particular electorate. Would they be considered unsuitable if that's what the members wanted?

You may remember a few years ago one Pauline Hanson who was the candidate nominated by the Liberal party for Ipswich. They had paid for her nomination and had started to print all the stuff that comes with elections, until she made a few comments unpopular with the party. They withdrew her accreditation as their candidate but they could not remove her from the voting slips. As a result of the publicity she won the seat.

Not that a similar thing could happen in Thailand, the cast adrift candidate would need money to smooth voting intentions of the masses.

[whybother]

You may remember a few years ago one Pauline Hanson who was the candidate nominated by the Liberal party for Ipswich. They had paid for her nomination and had started to print all the stuff that comes with elections, until she made a few comments unpopular with the party. They withdrew her accreditation as their candidate but they could not remove her from the voting slips. As a result of the publicity she won the seat.

Not that a similar thing could happen in Thailand, the cast adrift candidate would need money to smooth voting intentions of the masses.

The key word that you have used is "THEY", and not an individual.

[givenall]

The Pheu Thai Party Secretary-General who resigned last week, Supol Fong-ngam, is a constituency MP from Ubon Ratchathani.

The aide to the Pheu Thai Party Chairman Chavalit, who resigned last week, Chawalit Wichayasut, is a Party-list MP for the Pheu Thai Party.

Chawalit was also the Pheu Thai Party's Deputy Secretary-General.

In combination with last month's resignation of the Pheu Thai Party MP Chairman Chalerm the Party has lost it's:

Party Chairman

Party Secretary-General

Party Deputy Secretary-General

Party MP Chairman

have thus decimated the Executive Board of the Pheu Thai Party.

They have all been "de-listed" from the new Party-list MP roster.

.

Don’t forget they also disassociate themselves from theRED SHIRT too

[givenall]

I am puzzled by one thing. If Thaksin banned from politics,how can he run the party. Isn’t this against the law

May be right before election EC will disqualify his party

[Buchholz]

The Pheu Thai Party Secretary-General who resigned last week, Supol Fong-ngam, is a constituency MP from Ubon Ratchathani.

The aide to the Pheu Thai Party Chairman Chavalit, who resigned last week, Chawalit Wichayasut, is a Party-list MP for the Pheu Thai Party.

Chawalit was also the Pheu Thai Party's Deputy Secretary-General.

In combination with last month's resignation of the Pheu Thai Party MP Chairman Chalerm the Party has lost it's:

Party Chairman

Party Secretary-General

Party Deputy Secretary-General

Party MP Chairman

have thus decimated the Executive Board of the Pheu Thai Party.

They have all been "de-listed" from the new Party-list MP roster.

Don’t forget they also disassociate themselves from theRED SHIRT too

That might have had a higher degree of credibility if it hadn't come from indicted Red Shirter Apiwan:

Red Shirt Leader and Pheu Thai Party MP and Deputy House Speaker currently under impeachment proceedings Apiwan Wiriyachai

Apiwan: Pheu Thai-UDD roles separated

BANGKOK, 19 April 2011 (NNT) – Deputy House Speaker and Pheu Thai Party Deputy Leader Colonel Apiwan Wiriyachai has voiced his agreement to the proposed separation of the roles of the opposition Pheu Thai Party and the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD).

or if Pheu Thai Party MP's and Red Shirters like Jatuporn and Karun disassociated themselves from the Red Shirts entirely

Pheu Thai Party MP's Jatuporn and Karun

[animatic]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

You are only my FRIEND if you do exactly what I tell you

And THAT sums Thaksin up to a fare thee well.

Well go now, and fare thee well, if it doesn't harm me of course.

Other wise I will nail your ass.

[Ricardo]

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

fair enough question, but it is a practice no different than many western parliamentary parties. Political party leaders have the right to decertify candidates selected in a riding or district. The intent behind such power is to prevent unsuitable candidates from running under the party afiliation. This power acts to safeguard the party from an embarrassing candidate.

Again quite correct, although if a "former secretary general" is now deemed to be an unsuitable or embarrassing candidate, why aren't the recently-arrived Red-Shirt leaders or Jatuporn similarly ejected, as part of DL's drive to distance himself/PTP from them, at least until after the election ? Perhaps some animals are 'more equal' than others, in Thaksin's 'Animal Farm', based upon their lack of spine or integrity !

And surely a western parliamentary party would be a little more discreet, about the winnowing-out process, especially when summarily removing two sitting MPs who thus-far had loyally followed the party-line, no matter how ridiculous ?

[rubl]

Our legal protector Robert Amsterdam seems to have learned some from k. Thaksin. Recently he held a one-person dialogue

"Red Shirt lawyer held a one-person dialogue in Kuala Lumpur after cancellation of an event"

http://www.prachatai3.info/english/node/2442

[Misterwhisper]

The Pheu Thai Party Secretary-General who resigned last week, Supol Fong-ngam, is a constituency MP from Ubon Ratchathani.

The aide to the Pheu Thai Party Chairman Chavalit, who resigned last week, Chawalit Wichayasut, is a Party-list MP for the Pheu Thai Party.

Chawalit was also the Pheu Thai Party's Deputy Secretary-General.

In combination with last month's resignation of the Pheu Thai Party MP Chairman Chalerm the Party has lost it's:

Party Chairman

Party Secretary-General

Party Deputy Secretary-General

Party MP Chairman

have thus decimated the Executive Board of the Pheu Thai Party.

They have all been "de-listed" from the new Party-list MP roster.

.

Who needs an "executive board" if you have "one Thaksin"? Too many cooks spoil the broth anyway...

[Crushdepth]

Not to worry. He's still got a few sisters, cousins and children that can fill the empty board slots.

[stepenwolf1958]

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

But don't you think it should be up to the members of the party to decide who runs for them?

yes, you are right. SHOULD to be that way as in societies where is hig level of basic democracy. But turn yourself around and tell me WHERE ARE YOU? You expect that manner in LOS? And don't tell me Democrats doing that way(as you said) as Mr.Abhisit reshuffled his Cabinet once, intentionaly get rid of some allies-ecxept Newin's party BJT who just replaced man to man.

[ianbaggie]

One word sums up the split in Thailand, One word has promoted the unrest, splits of brother against brother and neighbour against neighbour and Thai aginst thai. One word has stood for selfishness, greed, aggresiveness, stupidity, wrong doing, murder, manipulation, theft, persecution, corruption and has promoted the split with the monarchy which is now being discussed and most of all a desperate struggle to regain power justly taken from him for his lies and deceipt - that word - THAKSIN!! Be afraid - be very afraid people of Thailand - this man only represents his own interests and has already shown that he is willing to murder innocents and burn bangkok to do it!!