How Do The Tomboys Pull The Beautiful Girls?

[samsiam]

Why would you assume that lesbians have relationships with men just because they're pretty? Lesbians are lesbians because they're sexually attracted to other women regardless of how many straight men fantasise otherwise.

I didn't assume. Some people are bi-sexual. As in many other societies, a lady without wealth or career would like to have a man to sponsor or support her. Some people here will do anything to better themselves in life, or just to make ends meet/pay the rent/support the family upcountry. You would call it dishonest; she would see it as surviving. There is no government security scheme for the unemployed here, so people are very creative about making a living.

I had a girlfriend once who was in a similar situation. I went off to Australia to work for 6 weeks and when I returned I had been dumped for another woman! She tried to get back with me when she could not make ends meet; in the end it was pretty clear why she wanted to come back. I did not take her back. Turned out she had been seeing other girls behind my back; I was oblivious to it.

You see alot of pretty girls with tomboys around Bangkok. Open your eyes. To me its just interesting; I have no opinion on it really; people are free to live their lives as they wish.

You got dumped for a tom boy ??

So sorry about that.

[WarpSpeed]

Yes, this is a manifestation of lesbianism that can be found in many societies; I don't get the this is so Thai implication in the OP at all.

Like the OP, I have not seen it so prevalent as in Thailand.

Agreed but my impression is that they are the bread winners also in many of these relationships filling more higher education positions such as IT for one example..

[WarpSpeed]

There is always one butch and one beautiful in a lesbian relationship. Perhaps it has something to do with the dominant versus passive sex play.

Lesbian is nothing to do with Toms - different thing ask the girls

Yeah but the "male" side of a lesbian relationship is most often quite like a tomboy in appearance and demeanor so his description is understandable..

Edited March 24, 2012 by WarpSpeed

[brewsterbudgen]

I think every Tom-Dee relationship is probably slightly different.

It has been explained to me that in many cases the Tom watches over and takes care of the Dee, in a male role, until such time as she (the Dee) might get married. The sex is not mutual, the Tom satisfies the Dee, but not vice-versa. I am not sure about any financial arrangements? The Tom would consider herself to be a lesbian but the Dee might not be so comfortable with that label. For the Dee it is win-win, she can remain in a safe relationship, unspoiled by a male relationship, and when the right man comes along, she's good to go. There have been quite a few threads on this subject here on TV over the years.

Very true. Plenty of girls go through a stage when they're with a Tom, but many move on to guys.

There is always one butch and one beautiful in a lesbian relationship. Perhaps it has something to do with the dominant versus passive sex play.

Lesbian is nothing to do with Toms - different thing ask the girls

Exactly. Most Dees would never consider themselves to be lesbian.

[kerryk]

You guys are funny. Who would you ask? Who do you ask about women? Who do you believe when you do ask? Then we are talking Thai women. Are Thai women the same as Western women? Who would you ask about that? Who feels qualified to comment?

How many guys here have had a full blown relationship with a lesbian Thai woman?

Maybe a threesome? Or have a threesome when one of the ladies was not a lesbian (boring)?

At what temperature does chocolate melt? You all need to know that. Too hot can be a real bummer.

OK I know. How do tomboys pull beautiful women? Money. How do I know this? How do you think I got my GF, third wife and four mistresses back; of course the dessert bar at the Hilton lunch buffet helped.

What kind of a guy gets a kick out of turning lesbians. It is not every punter that has the capability of doing it. Do you think a guy who does not like women knows how? Do you think a guy who hasn’t had more relationships with women than a porcupine has quills knows how? Do you always put the toilet seat down?

If a guy gets a kick out of going out with lesbians he has got to be a pervert or something worse. What is worse than a pervert? I know you are all thinking most guys who live in Pattaya but that’s the easy answer. I should have said what is worse than a pervert, not counting guys who live in Pattaya.

[samsiam]

How do I know this? How do you think I got my GF, third wife and four mistresses back;

Thing is.....why did they all leave you for a girl in the first place ??

[kerryk]

How do I know this? How do you think I got my GF, third wife and four mistresses back;

Thing is.....why did they all leave you for a girl in the first place ??

Because they were lesbians. I thought that was obvious. Swiss chocolate had something to do with it but ... not to get too detailed. Unless you want to hire me as a consultant

[samsiam]

Sure they were....

[kerryk]

Sure they were....

I have had women leave me for other men and I assumed they liked men. I have had women leave me for a woman and I assumed they liked women. I have never had a woman leave me for a chicken. If you want to insult me that's OK but be a little more forthcoming so I know exactly what you are trying to imply.

[kerryk]

I think every Tom-Dee relationship is probably slightly different.

It has been explained to me that in many cases the Tom watches over and takes care of the Dee, in a male role, until such time as she (the Dee) might get married. The sex is not mutual, the Tom satisfies the Dee, but not vice-versa. I am not sure about any financial arrangements? The Tom would consider herself to be a lesbian but the Dee might not be so comfortable with that label. For the Dee it is win-win, she can remain in a safe relationship, unspoiled by a male relationship, and when the right man comes along, she's good to go. There have been quite a few threads on this subject here on TV over the years.

Very true. Plenty of girls go through a stage when they're with a Tom, but many move on to guys.

There is always one butch and one beautiful in a lesbian relationship. Perhaps it has something to do with the dominant versus passive sex play.

Lesbian is nothing to do with Toms - different thing ask the girls

Exactly. Most Dees would never consider themselves to be lesbian.

Boy you guys seem to know a lot about it. How did you get all this experience with Thai lesbian couples?

[David48]

udonguy ... what possessed you to breath life into an almost 2 year old thread ... as interesting as the subject matter might

[Ulysses G.]

How do tomboys pull beautiful women? Money. a pervert, not counting guys who live in Pattaya.

While this is not always true, it often is. I have had a number of beautiful sex-workers tell me that they much prefer men, but if a Tom treats them well enough , they are willing to strike a long-term deal.

[endure]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

[kurnell]

Not restriced to the girls. I reckon that most of the Thai boys are dropping their anchor in poo bay in their youth.

[smokie36]

Crikey! This thread goes every way and loose....!

Maybe we need a meet and squeal thread to cover these ermmm...desires....

[kerryk]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

[necronx99]

You guys are funny. Who would you ask? Who do you ask about women? Who do you believe when you do ask? Then we are talking Thai women. Are Thai women the same as Western women? Who would you ask about that? Who feels qualified to comment?

How many guys here have had a full blown relationship with a lesbian Thai woman?

Maybe a threesome? Or have a threesome when one of the ladies was not a lesbian (boring)?

At what temperature does chocolate melt? You all need to know that. Too hot can be a real bummer.

OK I know. How do tomboys pull beautiful women? Money. How do I know this? How do you think I got my GF, third wife and four mistresses back; of course the dessert bar at the Hilton lunch buffet helped.

What kind of a guy gets a kick out of turning lesbians. It is not every punter that has the capability of doing it. Do you think a guy who does not like women knows how? Do you think a guy who hasn’t had more relationships with women than a porcupine has quills knows how? Do you always put the toilet seat down?

If a guy gets a kick out of going out with lesbians he has got to be a pervert or something worse. What is worse than a pervert? I know you are all thinking most guys who live in Pattaya but that’s the easy answer. I should have said what is worse than a pervert, not counting guys who live in Pattaya.

I've read this about 3 times now and I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.

[kerryk]

You guys are funny. Who would you ask? Who do you ask about women? Who do you believe when you do ask? Then we are talking Thai women. Are Thai women the same as Western women? Who would you ask about that? Who feels qualified to comment?

How many guys here have had a full blown relationship with a lesbian Thai woman?

Maybe a threesome? Or have a threesome when one of the ladies was not a lesbian (boring)?

At what temperature does chocolate melt? You all need to know that. Too hot can be a real bummer.

OK I know. How do tomboys pull beautiful women? Money. How do I know this? How do you think I got my GF, third wife and four mistresses back; of course the dessert bar at the Hilton lunch buffet helped.

What kind of a guy gets a kick out of turning lesbians. It is not every punter that has the capability of doing it. Do you think a guy who does not like women knows how? Do you think a guy who hasn’t had more relationships with women than a porcupine has quills knows how? Do you always put the toilet seat down?

If a guy gets a kick out of going out with lesbians he has got to be a pervert or something worse. What is worse than a pervert? I know you are all thinking most guys who live in Pattaya but that’s the easy answer. I should have said what is worse than a pervert, not counting guys who live in Pattaya.

I've read this about 3 times now and I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.

The first three paragraphs are a tutorial on who to ask to answer the OP.

The middle paragraphs are my credentials for answering the OP and the answer to his question.

The last paragraph is a morality tale about living in Thailand and being masters of the universe.

[ivan96822]

Yes, this is a manifestation of lesbianism that can be found in many societies; I don't get the this is so Thai implication in the OP at all.

Like the OP, I have not seen it so prevalent as in Thailand.

Ever been to Hawaii? It's rampant in the islands...

[endure]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

No but I consider myself reasonably competent in the English language.

Lesbian=woman who is sexually attracted to other women.

[daftpunker]

Yeah we all seem to be confused on the word lesbian.I mean im not even sure myself i consider my gf to be straight but its strange when her friend comes round on the weekend she seems a little lesbian.Not that im complaining.yeaaahhhhh.much love.

[kerryk]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

No but I consider myself reasonably competent in the English language.

Lesbian=woman who is sexually attracted to other women.

I don’t really know if I should ask you but I’ll give it a shot if you say you can read English.

Here is the question, “Why do fat ugly, butchy, poorly dressed women who walk like truckers get hot, beautifully dressed and well proportioned Thai ladies?” I know they probably like women but why such fat ugly women? I just got back from the mall and I saw a real mismatch. Gee, the square shaped lady that could have been the stage double for Sponge Bob had this gorgeous 20year old hottie.

I mean, I know how the pot bellied old Farang get them good looking ladies but is it the same with the “Toms?” Because it is a real toss up who is worse to look, the fat sexpat or the sponge bob lady.

[daftpunker]

my gf told me them tom boys understend a thai women more and those girls are fed up with being used by men.

[samsiam]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

Kerry is telling us all subtly that he is though...

[macksview]

my gf told me them tom boys understend a thai women more and those girls are fed up with being used by men.

thats the same as what my mrs says.

could have a competiton, best photo of a tom and dee, see plenty outside the uni, but dont want to look like a perv, taking photos

[kerryk]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

Kerry is telling us all subtly that he is though...

I already answered the OP. I was trying to get Endure to answer if he has an opinion different than mine. To use Jing things words, I too have seen the extreme butch fem thing which to me comes across as a “sponge Bob look alike”. I think the only way these extreme butch, heavy, dressed in jeans and logging shirts ladies get the slim Thai beauties is the same reason the similarly weighted and attired sex pats get them, Money!

I also think us heavy weight old sexpat are missing the boat by not befriending the extreme butch fem types. I have a couple of good friends in that category. Next time you see one ask them for a drink at your favorite go go. They are good fun and like football too. They are not like the extreme butch fem types in the West. Much friendlier here; after they get to know you they even dance a bit.

[endure]

Lesbians like women. Deal with it. Having a dick doesn't make you masters of the universe.

Endure do you consider yourself an expert on Thai lesbians?

No but I consider myself reasonably competent in the English language.

Lesbian=woman who is sexually attracted to other women.

I don’t really know if I should ask you but I’ll give it a shot if you say you can read English.

Here is the question, “Why do fat ugly, butchy, poorly dressed women who walk like truckers get hot, beautifully dressed and well proportioned Thai ladies?” I know they probably like women but why such fat ugly women? I just got back from the mall and I saw a real mismatch. Gee, the square shaped lady that could have been the stage double for Sponge Bob had this gorgeous 20year old hottie.

Presumably because they find them attractive. The fact that you don't isn't really relevant.

[brewsterbudgen]

Boy you guys seem to know a lot about it. How did you get all this experience with Thai lesbian couples?

I have personal experience.

[samsiam]

dreams don't count...

[brewsterbudgen]

Boy you guys seem to know a lot about it. How did you get all this experience with Thai lesbian couples?

I have personal experience.

dreams don't count...

I wish it was a dream. Unfortunately it's very real.