473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I thought the statement suggesting a debate and that Abhisit was ready to debate a political novice.....as a rather arrogant statement.....just my opinion Abhisit said that she was "a political novice"? Where does it say that in that article? Not that it of course is not true, just that i can't see the quote. The government under estimated, and thus failed to control, the gathering, which led to the crackdown and subsequent violence.......in my opinion of course When you said the Dems underestimated the opposition, i assumed you meant political opposition, not a group of thugs running riot. As far as this is concerned, i don't think it was so much under-estimating them, rather having no way of dealing with them. Riot police was what was needed. Alas, Thailand has no such trained force, and soldiers were the only option. Besides of course simply letting them hold the city hostage for more weeks on end. Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I thought the statement suggesting a debate and that Abhisit was ready to debate a political novice.....as a rather arrogant statement.....just my opinion Abhisit said that she was "a political novice"? Where does it say that in that article? Not that it of course is not true, just that i can't see the quote. The government under estimated, and thus failed to control, the gathering, which led to the crackdown and subsequent violence.......in my opinion of course When you said the Dems underestimated the opposition, i assumed you meant political opposition, not a group of thugs running riot. As far as this is concerned, i don't think it was so much under-estimating them, rather having no way of dealing with them. Riot police was what was needed. Alas, Thailand has no such trained force, and soldiers were the only option. Besides of course simply letting them hold the city hostage for more weeks on end. Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . did it just get too hot in this kitchen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 did it just get too hot in this kitchen? Nope same old ingredients have arrived...same dish...same flavour.....just a little stale..... I'll take my spoon elsewhere thanks........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? That may be the phrase that catches on! I can't believe that someone would suggest that someone whose name is in the hat for PM shouldn't be in a debate because of being a political novice! Or that it would be arrogant to suggest a debate. Whoever is the next PM is (in theory) going to run a country of 64+ Million people .... if being a novice precludes a debate (it shouldn't) then by extension it would preclude actually being PM, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 did it just get too hot in this kitchen? Nope same old ingredients have arrived...same dish...same flavour.....just a little stale..... I'll take my spoon elsewhere thanks........... ok Bye, i am sure you will be missed......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? That may be the phrase that catches on! I can't believe that someone would suggest that someone whose name is in the hat for PM shouldn't be in a debate because of being a political novice! Or that it would be arrogant to suggest a debate. Whoever is the next PM is (in theory) going to run a country of 64+ Million people .... if being a novice precludes a debate (it shouldn't) then by extension it would preclude actually being PM, wouldn't it? could be the next ''doing a Weng''..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? That may be the phrase that catches on! I can't believe that someone would suggest that someone whose name is in the hat for PM shouldn't be in a debate because of being a political novice! Or that it would be arrogant to suggest a debate. Whoever is the next PM is (in theory) going to run a country of 64+ Million people .... if being a novice precludes a debate (it shouldn't) then by extension it would preclude actually being PM, wouldn't it? Oh dear Recall my opening post? "Have the Democrats underestimated the opposition again"................ You guys certainly put yourselves on the line with your assumptions.......... Occasionally people who make such assumptions end up with very red faces...... Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 A more common term "cut and run". This does not seem to be uncommon when individuals sense they may be asked questions or for explanations, which may tax their understanding/knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? In some cities where sporadic, indiscriminate shooting like this occurs followed by a rapid exit, it's known as a "drive-by" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? That may be the phrase that catches on! I can't believe that someone would suggest that someone whose name is in the hat for PM shouldn't be in a debate because of being a political novice! Or that it would be arrogant to suggest a debate. Whoever is the next PM is (in theory) going to run a country of 64+ Million people .... if being a novice precludes a debate (it shouldn't) then by extension it would preclude actually being PM, wouldn't it? Oh dear Recall my opening post? "Have the Democrats underestimated the opposition again"................ You guys certainly put yourselves on the line with your assumptions.......... Occasionally people who make such assumptions end up with very red faces...... Bye you must be hard to get rid of at the end of parties you have seemingly bowed out three times now and have still not gone........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) All we worthy souls here have no doubt been interviewed for positions during our lives and the way we answered dictated whether we got the promotion or position we were after. (Or even the partner we wanted) Pray tell me what is the difference twixt politicians and we lesser mortals ? These superior beings (well in their own minds they are) are being asked to justify the policies and the suitability of themselves for the positions they (or others in the background) hanker after. Edited May 15, 2011 by siampolee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Nit picking and looking at effect rather than cause....not unusual here .......my points do not stand or fall on political bias.......bye..... . Doing a Yingluck? That may be the phrase that catches on! I can't believe that someone would suggest that someone whose name is in the hat for PM shouldn't be in a debate because of being a political novice! Or that it would be arrogant to suggest a debate. Whoever is the next PM is (in theory) going to run a country of 64+ Million people .... if being a novice precludes a debate (it shouldn't) then by extension it would preclude actually being PM, wouldn't it? Oh dear Recall my opening post? "Have the Democrats underestimated the opposition again"................ You guys certainly put yourselves on the line with your assumptions.......... Occasionally people who make such assumptions end up with very red faces...... Bye a man who never made a stand never stood for anything......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The answer is "nope, I don't recall his opening post" I am only assuming he didn't respond about why it would be arrogant to challenge someone that is in theory up for the highest political post in the land, to have a debate publicly. Particularly in a country as divided as Thailand is right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Interesting, a rather arrogant sounding statement......... Are the Democrats under estimating the opposition yet again? What the point ? The democrats will lose .... as usual. Then, with their friends in "high" place, they will challenge the results. .... So the next PM is a democrat What a surprise ! Boring ! Oh JurgenG you've spoilt it. Here on TV we like to think that it's going to a be a fair and open contest. But you've spoilt it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 All we worthy souls here have no doubt been interviewed for positions during our lives and the way we answered dictated whether we got the promotion or position we were after. (Or even the partner we wanted) Pray tell me what is the difference twixt politicians and we lesser mortals ? These superior beings (well in their own minds they are) are being asked to justify the policies and the suitability of themselves for the positions they (or others in the background) hanker after. When a politician opens his /her mouth you can tell a lie is forthcoming, with lesser mortals it's much more difficult to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Abhisit was a minister at twenty-seven. He's had years of ministerial experience compared to Thaksin Lite - Yingluk - and is presumably very knowledgable about ministrial procedures and other matters. I fear he could expose her ignorance concerning such things as - statistics - facts - figures - policies - procedures - you name it - things the electorate would presume she would know about. It would not be a pretty sight to see Abhisit tear Yingluk apart in front of the television cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The people that she hopes to lead need to get to know her, so she should do some sort of public appearance. There are less than 50 days left to the election. It's difficult to imagine people actually entrusting someone with no political experience and whom they've only gotten to know in less than 50 days to lead a country of 67M people. It would also be absurd to think that a country can be effectively managed remotely from some other country. Can you imagine the President of the United States moving to Thailand permanently whilst still continuing to lead his country via his sister? Can you also imagine going to a job interview for a management position and saying that you will work remotely in another country and will send your brother or sister into the office every day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) True! .... Why have a debate that might actually inform the voters, when instead you can have the local canvassers do their "job" and the regional power families tell those canvassers when to jump and how high! Yingluck took some big hits in the credibility department back in the assets seizure case ... lucky for her it was a civil matter! http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1016836 http://leavefreedom.blogspot.com/2010/01/thaksins-sister-sees-no-impact-on.html Face it. she's wide open on benefitting from corruption .... an easy target. Maybe if she cries like she did in the court hearing it will go easier on her! Just like her older brother Ms. Yingluck is (amply) rich enough already not to have any need or even feel an urge to be corrupt Edited May 15, 2011 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 you must be hard to get rid of at the end of parties you have seemingly bowed out three times now and have still not gone........ Yeah but it is just not pleasant to make comments about people behind their backs in my world....... So my appearance will excuse the er.........for politeness.........late commentators....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Abhisit was a minister at twenty-seven. He's had years of ministerial experience compared to Thaksin Lite - Yingluk - and is presumably very knowledgable about ministrial procedures and other matters. I fear he could expose her ignorance concerning such things as - statistics - facts - figures - policies - procedures - you name it - things the electorate would presume she would know about. These are the reasons to why Yingluck is not an appropriate person for the job. She should have acquired some years in public political life before going for the position of Prime Minister. Edited May 15, 2011 by hyperdimension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 a man who never made a stand never stood for anything......... A very commendable thought for the protest anniversary........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Abhisit was a minister at twenty-seven. He's had years of ministerial experience compared to Thaksin Lite - Yingluk - and is presumably very knowledgable about ministrial procedures and other matters. I fear he could expose her ignorance concerning such things as - statistics - facts - figures - policies - procedures - you name it - things the electorate would presume she would know about. It would not be a pretty sight to see Abhisit tear Yingluk apart in front of the television cameras. She is running for PM (or at least that is the idea if she actually is party-list #1) ------ Yes, that is Prime Minister .... if she can't handle her own in a public debate against a guy that HAS to be nice ... how will she accomplish doing her duty as PM? She (in theory) has run TWO major companies, and in theory is considered by PTP to be a good candidate for the position of PM. Just because she has a record of being associated with corruption on a personal level .... does that mean she gets a free-ride under the "Thaksin thinks ...." motto of PTP? as a final note --- Yes it would be a pretty sight to see her and the PTP's platform torn to ribbons in a public debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Which excuse will she come up with for declining? . Probably inform him if she is elected PM she will be more than happy to debate politics with him.........as the opposition leader..... Since she certainly can NOT do that now, since she is presently not the leader of opposition or anything but Thaksins SC Aset company. She does not have any kind track record at large scale public speaking, on or off a script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Which excuse will she come up with for declining? . Probably inform him if she is elected PM she will be more than happy to debate politics with him.........as the opposition leader..... Since she certainly can NOT do that now, since she is presently not the leader of opposition or anything but Thaksins SC Aset company. She does not have any kind track record at large scale public speaking, on or off a script. with him......as the opposition leader....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 you must be hard to get rid of at the end of parties you have seemingly bowed out three times now and have still not gone........ Yeah but it is just not pleasant to make comments about people behind their backs in my world....... So my appearance will excuse the er.........for politeness.........late commentators....... dam_n, you still here?, i had my jammies on ages ago........:sleepy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 you must be hard to get rid of at the end of parties you have seemingly bowed out three times now and have still not gone........ Yeah but it is just not pleasant to make comments about people behind their backs in my world....... So my appearance will excuse the er.........for politeness.........late commentators....... dam_n, you still here?, i had my jammies on ages ago........:sleepy: He's still looking for his spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 As there is nothing to gain by inserting detrimental comments about other posters, and I have nothing new to add on this topic, I will now depart...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieman05 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 My Thai wife liked the debates we have in Australia before the last elections As Thailand is much smarter country than Australia they will do the same Don't we just love Thai Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Interesting, a rather arrogant sounding statement......... Are the Democrats under estimating the opposition yet again? Which statement did you find arrogant-sounding and why? When did the Dems underestimate the opposition and how do you know this? I thought the statement suggesting a debate and that Abhisit was ready to debate a political novice.....as a rather arrogant statement.....just my opinion The government under estimated, and thus failed to control, the gathering, which led to the crackdown and subsequent violence.......in my opinion of course Please do not hesitate to cantact me if you require any further information or assistance....... Abhisit has a right to offer a debate and in doing so to make ridicule of the Thaksin puppet she is a ridiculous choice for a PM and Abhisit's offer only serves to highlight just how ridiculous it is t what about the media interviewing her about policy ? it would be like Katie Couric interviewing Sara Palin maybe she can see Cambodia from her door step......... in my opinion: the reds shouldn't have been there no illegal gathering no crackdown no violence all are fruit of the Thaksin poisoned red tree Its really hard to imagine another female political candidate on earth as intellectually challenged as Sara Pailin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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