Thaksin Says Sister May Not Become PM Even If Pheu Thai Wins

[siampolee]

Thaksin says sister may not become PM even if Pheu Thai wins

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has said that his sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, would not become the next prime minister even if the Pheu Thai Party wins the election.

In an exclusive interview with Matichon, Thaksin said he feared that Yingluck would be attacked and destroyed by the Democrat if she became the government leader.

Thaksin said he was considering several PM choices, including Mingkwan Saengsuwan, Pracha Promnok and Yongyuth Wichaidit as well as a few other outsiders.

I seem to recall a number of statements from Thaksin telling all of us he had washed his hands of politics.

Perchance there is a Thaksin clone running loose ?

Edited May 23, 2011 by siampolee

[Siripon]

family row in the Shinawatra clan? Afraid the little sister would vanish with too much of the assets still to be stolen?

What a farce... disgusting Shinawatra's...

Democrats have been falling for Thaksin's tactics for a while now, and it seems that many foreigners are falling for them too. Sadly not many foreigners here know enough about politics. They think they do, but they don't. Just because Thaksin says that his sister may not become PM, doesn't mean that his sister won't become PM.

If you're swimming in a shark tank, it's a wise idea to throw blood into the other end of the pool, rather than where you're swimming, just to keep the sharks off your back until you're out of the pool. Sharks may just be dumb enough to believe it. And apparently even some of the people just watching the sharks from outside the tank.

You're wrong Irena, the Democrats, like nearly every educated Thai, saw through Thaksin a long time ago.

This nonsense about,' I'm not sure Yinglak should be PM', is just a sop to the also-rans such as Mingkwan, Pracha, Yongyut,etc.

"Don't get angry boys about my kid sister jumping the queue whilst you have worked hard for the party, you still have a chance!'

And these silly fools sit waiting for crumbs from the big boss who decides all decisions, the party of true democracy!

Pheua Thai, an utter farce.

[jdinasia]

She cried at a public appearance again. Maybe that's why she's not Thaksin's first choice.

Still, I suspect it may just be a bit of the old things aren't always the way they seem in Asia and some good old fashioned tactical "misdirection".

Thaksin can say whatever he wants to offset attacks on his little sister, change plans at the last minute just before the election, or wait until the election is won to install her as PM to spare all the PAD and Democrat personal attacks on her.

The PAD and Democrats are going down and they know it.....the only question is if the traitors (coup leaders) in the military are as worried about their crimes that were commuted as much as they/the anti-reds claim they are really just afraid of Thaksin and his side getting their crimes commuted.

Whatever the justification, isn't it funny how everyone has "forgotten" a coup is an act of TREASON !!!!

We shoot people like that in the States. The one in jail now may get life but it's still life.

And look what their little coup did --- crippled the Thai economy, mass chaos, and the masses have definitely suffered. If Thaksin was corrupt, so be it, everyone was doing better. Any naive enough to think the Democrats or PAD are anything but just as corrupt but worst for the nation in since the coup is seriously naive.

I was looking for any facts in your post and am hard-pressed to find any. The coup was not an act of treason. No crimes were commuted. The PAD is a marginalized fringe group that is fighting with its own political wing the NPP about if they will field any candidates at all. The Thai economy is doing very well. There isn't mass chaos. I wouldn't suggest that the Dems themselves are corrupt (though some Dem mp's likely are!)

Have you been to Thailand in the last 5+ years?

Why is Thaksin playing games with the PM slot? My personal thoughts would be that he has promised it to several people and is holding them with that promise until they are no longer eligible to run for MP if they abandon PTP. In other words, Thaksin is probably being treacherous with his own minions

Edited May 23, 2011 by jdinasia

[whybother]

<snip>

And look what their little coup did --- crippled the Thai economy, mass chaos, and the masses have definitely suffered. If Thaksin was corrupt, so be it, everyone was doing better. Any naive enough to think the Democrats or PAD are anything but just as corrupt but worst for the nation in since the coup is seriously naive.

Was/Is the Thai economy crippled? Was it anything to do with the coup?

The coup may have been a set back, but for most businesses it was business as usual after a couple of days.

The protests since the coup (both Yellow and Red shirts) have done much more damage than the coup.

Not to mention the fact that Thailand has weathered the GFC quite well.

[animatic]

But the verdict stated clearly what wrongs you have done?

By the justice principle, they should have considered the intention. They should have considered whether I intended to do it or not and should have considered my past good deeds. They should have considered whether I did it as a mistake or an intention to do so. They should have considered whether I had malicious intention or not. But to find fault with me, they said only that I am bad and they always came up with reasons to prove that I am bad. If it goes on like this, the country will be divided and lack unity.

The guys on glue.

So much for rule of law,

justice as HE wants to see it is all he cares about.

He intended to do it. No mistakes, except getting caught.

He may have done some good deeds and many more bad ones.

Malice is considered if some one acts to be malicious, versus not caring at all.

Oh, oh, they say I am bad.

I don't like the reasons they say that I am bad, they must be bad

If he isn't treated as he wishes to be the country will not have unity.

It's ALLLLLLL about Thaksin,

Thaksin = PTP=Redshirts= arson = violence.

[gymboy33]

hasnt the great master, the "evil one" already responded

Thaksin: "Matichon has published the interview today which I gave on May 14 ... thus if the PM would be voted directly I'd chose Yingluck!"

when it comes to elections he's a tactical genius. would you agree?

[siampolee]

Geeraphun.

I larf I larf I pee i self.

We hear lots of scream when tourism dries up, we would hear lots of screams if all the foreign investment was pulled out of your country.

You are indeed the T,V forums resident comedian.

[rubl]

begin removed ...

This forum is a VERY good forum and I enjoy it however foriegners should really keep their opinions silent as in other rules in my country.

This will be the last time I will give this opinion and wish you all luck in your future.

PS: Big brother IS watching you.

I'm delighted you enjoyed your short stay here on TV forum where democracy reigns. Even with forum rules, lots of interesting opinions can be posted, lively discussions are possible even if some self-professed Thai professors don't like it.

Let me also wish you luck in the future. I hope you'll be able to find a forum which suits you better.

Live long and prosper

Edited May 23, 2011 by rubl

[jdinasia]

Hasn't Thaksin said a number of times that there won't be any revenge? Has he been lying? I suppose it wouldn't be the first time.

I still aint buying his story

I do like his veiled threats though (the poster you are replying to, not Thaksin's ... when he threatens 1000's die.)

[TAWP]

Don't feed the troll Geeraphun, he isn't a Thai person.

[samurai]

d)Thaksin, Thaksin, Thaksin!!! Does PTP actually need a PM candidate with a own personality?

Thaksin will decide who is Prime Minister. Not his party, not the people of Thailand. The guy's sheer maniacal egotism and outrageous selfishness just makes me SICK.

Whatever the justification, isn't it funny how everyone has "forgotten" a coup is an act of TREASON !!!!

A society without rule of law must resort to other means. You may not like the coup, but the fact is the soldiers were being given flowers on the street afterwards. Does that tell you something?

If his party wins Thaksin will decide who becomes PM. Yes. Everyone knows that.

But it will be a decision by the people of Thailand, because if he can do the trick he does it via election. And not with the help of a coup. Does that tell you something?

[samurai]

So what? Everybody in Thailand knows it's a puppet election. Yingluck, or whoever will be Puea Thai's next PM, is Thaksin's puppet. Just like Abhisit is someone's puppet. Anyone that can't see that is just plain dumb, excuse my English.

Yes. that is it.

Democrats have been falling for Thaksin's tactics for a while now, and it seems that many foreigners are falling for them too. Sadly not many foreigners here know enough about politics. They think they do, but they don't. Just because Thaksin says that his sister may not become PM, doesn't mean that his sister won't become PM.

If you're swimming in a shark tank, it's a wise idea to throw blood into the other end of the pool, rather than where you're swimming, just to keep the sharks off your back until you're out of the pool. Sharks may just be dumb enough to believe it. And apparently even some of the people just watching the sharks from outside the tank.

Yes, Thaksin is trolling his enemies.

Yes, maybe Yingluck will still become PM.

And yes, its a ruse. A still unknown puppet candidate cannot get attacked by the sharks.

[geezer553]

a disaster waiting to happan what experience has yingluck had in politics?

love for somebody strong in running for office who actualy think of the thai people rather than what office holds for them,.

i travel thailand mant times to spend time with my lady and family in buriram-and i have seen how the other half live

people in remote areas dont get a choice yet these people produce a product which is valuable to the community and thailand in general yet get less money today with high cost living food,gas,water,electric,goverment bills loans etc---fees have incresed for medcine and the amount poor people i have witnessed sick is horrific--if i was in charge of goverment i would make medcine free on prescription -small tax , national insurance tax------raise millions baht for the medical care which lacks proper hospital treatment in conditions which are terrible,. something needs to be done where everybody gets a fair crack at life--not just the rich society.

[rubl]

It probably started in 2003:

"Foreign embassies, meanwhile, have complained about the criminal element, warning about terrorism, particularly after bombing in Bali in October 2002. Some doubtless felt a little schadenfraude when in August 2003 the CIA and Thai police, earning a $10 million bounty, nabbed alleged Indonesian terrorist mastermind Hambali in Ayutthaya, where he was apparently plotting to bomb the APEC leaders’ meeting in Bangkok the following October.

Hambali’s arrest was a wake up call. Passport couriering was an embarrassment, not to mention illegal. Immigration officers were under pressure to sharpen their eyes, more so because of increasing violence in Malay-Muslim majority southern Thailand. There was plenty of material for painting conspiracies and drawing up threats.

In March 2004 Thailand signed up to the US terrorist interdiction program, which spent about $2.6 million installing the Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation System (Pisces) in the immigration department. A request for $400,000 to expand Pisces further in Thailand was made in the Fiscal Year 2007 Congressional budget justification for foreign operations."

http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=185

Edited May 23, 2011 by sbk
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[jdinasia]

If his party wins Thaksin will decide who becomes PM. Yes. Everyone knows that.

But it will be a decision by the people of Thailand, because if he can do the trick he does it via election. And not with the help of a coup. Does that tell you something?

Yes, that he is still unethical, that "democracy is not my(his) goal", and that he bought up local political machines .. which is what brought him into power before, and what cost him power via his proxy PTP when one of those local political machines (Newin) defected. You only have to listen to Thaksin's own words and watch his actions to know he doesn't care about democracy.

[whybother]

If his party wins Thaksin will decide who becomes PM. Yes. Everyone knows that.

But it will be a decision by the people of Thailand, because if he can do the trick he does it via election. And not with the help of a coup. Does that tell you something?

Make up your mind. Is it Thaksin who decides, or the Thai people that decide?

[ballpoint]

Geeraphun.

I larf I larf I pee i self.

We hear lots of scream when tourism dries up, we would hear lots of screams if all the foreign investment was pulled out of your country.

You are indeed the T,V forums resident comedian.

It would seem that Thai Visa is to Thaksin's clowns what the PTP is to Thaksin's clones. The place to hang out.

[theodorebagwell]

this interview was dated 2 weeks prior to the PTP greed to have Yingluk as no 1 on the party list

Thaksin's latest tweet confirmed her as the Prime Minister

[animatic]

I always wondered why an 'elected person' is

not considered ALSO 'capable of an act of treason against his country',

and that removing such a 'treasonous political player',

is not automatically an 'act of patriotism at great risk'?

Why would some feel a 'counter act of treason' is somehow

now so 'very patriotic'?

Philosophy; strained through partisan eyes and ears,

And then what of the elected political player who exhibits

distinct signs of various mental illness, dementia, incompetence,

and other debilitating affects on their ability to do the job?

Oh they were elected, and no matter what they do wrong,

can't remove them, they were "elected." As if that was a

magic panacea for all their inabilities to PROPERLY do

the job at hand.

Edited May 23, 2011 by animatic

[anterian]

What is most annoying about this farce is it takes the heat off Abhisit, he can continue being an ineffectual puppet. Talk about free healthcare, free education, in Bangkok perhaps but not in my neighbourhood. The only people he has helped is the middle class and of course the elite.

[rubl]

What is most annoying about this farce is it takes the heat off Abhisit, he can continue being an ineffectual puppet. Talk about free healthcare, free education, in Bangkok perhaps but not in my neighbourhood. The only people he has helped is the middle class and of course the elite.

The most annoying of this farce is it makes Thailand and it's political system look bad in the eyes of the world. That is assuming the world is looking.

As for free healthcare, did you get healthcare for 30B in 2001? For free education (probably no school fees on public schools) the same question did you have that years ago ?

[Crushdepth]

Are you aware that Thailand has a guarantee of free speech? You think that LAWS don't apply to foreigners? Maybe you think we should fall down on our knees and worship the Despot Of The Day for the supreme privilege of helping to prop up the economy?

Edited May 23, 2011 by sbk
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[jdinasia]

What is most annoying about this farce is it takes the heat off Abhisit, he can continue being an ineffectual puppet. Talk about free healthcare, free education, in Bangkok perhaps but not in my neighbourhood. The only people he has helped is the middle class and of course the elite.

The most annoying of this farce is it makes Thailand and it's political system look bad in the eyes of the world. That is assuming the world is looking.

As for free healthcare, did you get healthcare for 30B in 2001? For free education (probably no school fees on public schools) the same question did you have that years ago ?

Strange --- I went to Suan Dok today. (CMU-Hospital) I am not in BKK, I saw a physician that had done his GI specialist training in the US. I received 2 months worth of three different medications. .... I spent ZERO baht. Yes, I am a taxpayer here and qualify for the free healthcare. It is good. I normally see the same Dr. at SriPat (private hospital inside of CMU) so I don't have to deal with the waiting times, and can sit in AC ... but I also normally spend 2000-3000 all in (Dr/Hospital/meds)

I would assume that anterian doesn't have similar experiences

[Geeraphun]

Don't feed the troll Geeraphun, he isn't a Thai person.

Now I am a troll and NOT Thai? hahaha Is this because you think that Thai people cannot be educated?

5) Not to post inflammatory messages on the forum, or attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants, or trolling.

Trolling can be defined as the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

How does my post fall under this catagory? I too am allowed my opinions here I believe and I did not say anything about "tourism' in Thailand or "If foriegn investers pull out" etc. I merely made an honest OPINION of my view in the TV posters here. (Not all, just some that I think you all know who are they.)

What is a self professed Professor?

It is ok for you to all post your anti-Thaksin posts but is NOT ok for me to post my pro-Thaksin posts here?

[Crushdepth]

But it will be a decision by the people of Thailand, because if he can do the trick he does it via election. And not with the help of a coup. Does that tell you something?

I recall his party has been dissolved twice for electoral fraud. Get the message or are you in the "voting - rule of law still = democracy" fantasy camp? The thing about democracy is that it *doesn't work* unless people fundamentally trust the system. Without rule of law there is no trust and the system breaks down.

Care to take a stab at justifying electoral fraud in the context of democracy?

Edited May 23, 2011 by Crushdepth

[Crushdepth]

Now I am a troll and NOT Thai? hahaha Is this because you think that Thai people cannot be educated?

I'm starting to wonder whether foreigners can be educated. Because you seem remarkably resistant to learning.

[jayboy]

If his party wins Thaksin will decide who becomes PM. Yes. Everyone knows that.

But it will be a decision by the people of Thailand, because if he can do the trick he does it via election. And not with the help of a coup. Does that tell you something?

Make up your mind. Is it Thaksin who decides, or the Thai people that decide?

It's the Thai people who decide or should decide.However in the last few years the Thai people have been treated with contempt, and their wishes ignored.Even now the Democrats and their protectors in the elite are shitting themselves with anxiety as it appears the country is becoming increasingly enthusiastic about Khun Yingluck.I picture these myopics agonising about how the Thai "justice" system can frustrate the Thai people again if the polls go the "wrong" way.They may even succeed...but the endgame is clear and it will not be pretty.

[whybother]

<snip>

This will be the last time I will give this opinion and wish you all luck in your future.

PS: Big brother IS watching you.

<snip>

It is ok for you to all post your anti-Thaksin posts but is NOT ok for me to post my pro-Thaksin posts here?

Change your mind?

[rubl]

It is ok for you to all post your anti-Thaksin posts but is NOT ok for me to post my pro-Thaksin posts here?

It's not the pro-Thaksin opinion which disturbed some people including myself. It's the totally undemocratic "This forum is a VERY good forum and I enjoy it however foriegners should really keep their opinions silent as in other rules in my country."

BTW what happened with "This will be the last time I will give this opinion and wish you all luck in your future." I guess it was my wishful thinking to interpret that as you leaving :-)

[khaowong1]

So basically what Thaksin is saying, it's up to him to decide who becomes PM if Pheu Thai wins. wow.. what an ego..