June 12, 201115 yr I know of a few phrases that come close - but I'm struggling to think of one that accurately describes in Thai the English (UK) meaning of sad or pathetic. As in "you are so pathetic!" Any ideas? Much appreciated
June 12, 201115 yr I think the closest is น่าสมเพช I don't think it is the same word. So pathetic is off the true meaning of the word 'pathetic' : exciting pity or sadness. I wonder if the poster means the sarcastic use of the word 'So pathetic' as a term of scorn used against a person who is dealing with a problem in a way in which the speaker does not approve.
June 12, 201115 yr Author To be clear: I don't mean the true meaning of "pathetic" but it's widely used other meaning in UK English meaning miserably inadequate. Such as: "my earnings are pathetic!" Or "you pathetic (or sad) little person". Is there a phrase in Thai that captures the meaning accurately?
June 13, 201115 yr I agree with Mole, น่าสมเพช naa som-pet is closest. Be careful though, a lot of people find being called "miserably inadequate" rather offensive.
June 14, 201115 yr To go on with the gist of what the OP is getting at, a pathetic person could easily be refered to as a useless person which would translate as ไร้ค่า
June 14, 201115 yr I agree with Mole, น่าสมเพช naa som-pet is closest. Be careful though, a lot of people find being called "miserably inadequate" rather offensive. Looks good to me, as in this dictionary example: ฉันไม่มีวันลืมว่าฉันเคยมีชีวิตน่าสมเพชเพียงใด
June 16, 201115 yr In American English (no that's not an oxymoron, Brits), "pathetic" used in this way carries a negative connotation. "Sad", might or might not carry such a connotation, depending on tone of voice, facial expression, context, etc. For the above use of pathetic, I agree that น่า สมเพช is best. But, for sad, I think น่าเวทนา is better if one truly means that the situation causes one to feel sad or, in other words, to pity the person being discussed.
June 17, 201115 yr In American English (no that's not an oxymoron, Brits), "pathetic" used in this way carries a negative connotation. "Sad", might or might not carry such a connotation, depending on tone of voice, facial expression, context, etc. For the above use of pathetic, I agree that น่า สมเพช is best. But, for sad, I think น่าเวทนา is better if one truly means that the situation causes one to feel sad or, in other words, to pity the person being discussed. It would seem from Mole and others that the Thai can mean pathetic in the sarcastic sense. But for non English speaking Thais I think that calling someone pathetic to their face to hurt their feelings by using สมเพช or เวทนา might seem odd. แย่ might be closer.
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