fritter1970 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The other night I was at a bar in Chiang Mai. Just to explain, it was not a girly bar but a regular bar with regular workers. Anyway, an English guy turns up and sits at the bar. He was your typical Alpha male. A legend in his own lunch box. And he had no problem letting everyone know it. After some time I noticed an interesting outcome to this situation. A couple of English girls who were drinking at the bar took a definite interest in the guy and his bravado. But the Thai girls who he was also trying to "conquer" appeared to almost be turned off by the guy and had absolutely no interest in him whatsoever. I am wondering if any long-term expats can shed any light on this scenario. Does it highlight that what Thai women like in a man is totally different to what western women like? Do Thai women see through such a "man" and how he likely is lacking in jai dee? Is it jai dee that Thai woman find attractive in a man? I look forward to your input.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRichards Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Well if the Western girls took a fancy in him the Thai girls realized he wont be needing of their services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritter1970 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Well if the Western girls took a fancy in him the Thai girls realized he wont be needing of their services. A fair point except that the English girls turned up a fairly long time AFTER his attempted domination of the Thai ladies and their display of a level of "turn off" toward the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSnapper Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Women all over the world have similar attraction patterns. It is genetically programmed, with small cultural variations. Maybe he wasn't really Alpha, but just loud mouthed? The Thai girls may have realized it, but the Western girls were impressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Describe this "Alpha Male" behaviour. Did he mark territory? Did he howl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritter1970 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 lol..... basically he did everything short of urinating all over the bar to mark his territory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 What do Thai girls like? Same as most- good sense of humor plus a large penis & salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 fritter. To answer your question "What A Thai Woman Looks For In A Man". Can this man support me for a long time? Regarding the "Alpha Male", obviously they could see that he was a short time tourist, hence their uninterest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Flame and reply removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirth Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 A guy dress to the nines walks into a bar, heads turn, both male and female to see the newcomer. He walks with confidence, striking an air of Alpha, mesmerising everyone in the bar. Takes a sit at the bar, tries chatting up with all the ladies, hoping that it will lead to a romp at his/her place later when, in walks another guy, hunching as he walks, takes a sit next to the so called Alpha, Alpha guy takes a look at the new guy and smirks to himself, what a loser this guy. 2nd guy ordered a tall glass of Shirley Temple, with umbrella and cherry on top. Drinks it all down and with his tongue, picks the cherry up from the bottom of the glass and ate it. Asked for the bill and walks out the bar with a lady in each arm. Now, who's the Alpha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Maybe they just couldn't speak English . . . Thais are excellent at reading non-verbal cues. Maybe they just thought that he was a bit of a cock and not worth the stress of trying to speak English. Furthermore, Thai girls tend to steer clear of face-liabilities. Even if he was truly Alpha, he sounds like a bit of a face-liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Women all over the world have similar attraction patterns. It is genetically programmed, with small cultural variations. Maybe he wasn't really Alpha, but just loud mouthed? The Thai girls may have realized it, but the Western girls were impressed? Yes, Western women are unable to recognise loud-mouthed Western idiots, even though they've grown up with them . Whereas the Thai women recognised his 'type' immediately, even though they haven't grown up with them.... The OP joined TV recently. Sounds like a troll to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlafStapleton Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I am wondering if any long-term expats can shed any light on this scenario. Too young, Thai girl like man who die after short time leaving house. Too young, look like has no pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritter1970 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Women all over the world have similar attraction patterns. It is genetically programmed, with small cultural variations. Maybe he wasn't really Alpha, but just loud mouthed? The Thai girls may have realized it, but the Western girls were impressed? Yes, Western women are unable to recognise loud-mouthed Western idiots, even though they've grown up with them . Whereas the Thai women recognised his 'type' immediately, even though they haven't grown up with them.... The OP joined TV recently. Sounds like a troll to me. I am new to Thaivisa. Just wondering, what the hell is a "troll" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Thai girls are usually unconfrontational, unless they are bargirls. English girls were obviously desperate, like all farang women in Thailand. (puts on flame suit) Yes, all farang women move to Thailand as they are desperate to find a man . Having said this, I get your point that Thailand is certainly not the destination for farang women to look for a man . You will obviously find this hard to understand, but single farang women know this, and those that need a man in their life tend to move back to the West. Obviously there are always a few exceptions, but they are VERY few, and VERY far between, much as you would like to believe otherwise. Edited June 23, 2011 by F1fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneliane Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Like in any trading, they like them over the hill, if not one foot in the grave, so they can have a real relationship after they cash up their in-heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villagefarang Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It is a good guess they had seen this guy before or had gone home with someone just like him and learned their lesson. I love the “regular bar with regular workers” line. Thai women who hangout in any kind of bar are a definite subgroup of the general population and not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkoprod Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I am new to Thaivisa. Just wondering, what the hell is a "troll" ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneliane Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Thai girls are usually unconfrontational, unless they are bargirls. English girls were obviously desperate, like all farang women in Thailand. (puts on flame suit) Yes, all farang women move to Thailand as they are desperate to find a man . Having said this, I get your point that Thailand is certainly not the destination for farang women to look for a man . You will obviously find this hard to understand, but single farang women know this, and those that need a man in their life tend to move back to the West. Obviously there are always a few exceptions, but they are VERY few, and VERY far between, much as you would like to believe otherwise. Erm sorry I am a woman and I am farang and I definitely did NOT move here to find a man. I would be crazy if I was, most men here are obviously into Thai women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Not surprisingly, a reminder of forum rules is already necessary in this thread: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules 7) Not to post slurs or degrading comments directed towards any group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. 8) Not to post extremely negative views of Thailand or derogatory comments directed towards all Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 This is classic Thai Visa silliness. An attempt to conjure a sweeping generalization from an observation of one guy who remembers something from a night out, either real or imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritter1970 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 It is a good guess they had seen this guy before or had gone home with someone just like him and learned their lesson. I love the "regular bar with regular workers" line. Thai women who hangout in any kind of bar are a definite subgroup of the general population and not the norm. You have a good point. The bar I am talking about tends to employ women who are single mothers. Do you think that rather than trying to earn an "honest living" (ie. to work in a bar rather than be a prostitute) they are really fishing for a big fish (ie. farang with money to look after her and her child?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It is a good guess they had seen this guy before or had gone home with someone just like him and learned their lesson. I love the "regular bar with regular workers" line. Thai women who hangout in any kind of bar are a definite subgroup of the general population and not the norm. You have a good point. The bar I am talking about tends to employ women who are single mothers. Do you think that rather than trying to earn an "honest living" (ie. to work in a bar rather than be a prostitute) they are really fishing for a big fish (ie. farang with money to look after her and her child?) Oh Christ - another bloody troll.... Surely those of us who live here have lots to talk and laugh about without the obvious trolls??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Like in any trading, they like them over the hill, if not one foot in the grave, so they can have a real relationship after they cash up their in-heritage. It's bad enough when you read Falang men who say (in one way or another), 'All Thai women are prostitutes' -- but it's even more ugly to me when it's a woman who says it. Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It would probably help if the OP told us which bar in Chiang Mai. The answer should be easy to sort with this knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Like in any trading, they like them over the hill, if not one foot in the grave, so they can have a real relationship after they cash up their in-heritage. It's bad enough when you read Falang men who say (in one way or another), 'All Thai women are prostitutes' -- but it's even more ugly to me when it's a woman who says it. Shameful. I'm looking forward to your explanation as to why you find women pointing this out more offensive than men Edit - But as I said before, this is clearly a troll poster, so why are we feeding the troll?? Edited June 23, 2011 by F1fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weary Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 As in, Thai women, all 30 million of them? Of course they all like the same man. Without revealing too much, I can tell you, boy is he exhausted, but happier than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteeleJoe Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Like in any trading, they like them over the hill, if not one foot in the grave, so they can have a real relationship after they cash up their in-heritage. It's bad enough when you read Falang men who say (in one way or another), 'All Thai women are prostitutes' -- but it's even more ugly to me when it's a woman who says it. Shameful. I'm looking forward to your explanation as to why you find women pointing this out more offensive than men Edit - But as I said before, this is clearly a troll poster, so why are we feeding the troll?? I actually don't mean to be presumptuous or annoying -- though probably am being both (hardly the first time) -- but I knew you would would ask me that. Mind you it's presumptuous of you to rather imperiously assume that you'd get one -- rather than asking... I also note your use of "pointing this out" rathr than 'saying this'. Not the least bit surprising coming from you (you are nothing if not consistent). I was about to post this without an explanation just out of spite because of the way you phrased your post but that's even too petty and puerile for me so I'll humor you (and I suspect you'll enjoy this): I'd hope for some decency and respect towards women from anyone but at the very least other women. And when it's a western woman in Thailand -- who are so often but certainly not always, bitter and unceasingly disparaging of Thai women -- well, it's an ugly stereotype brought to life. (A stereotype that I hate hearing being batted around by twisted misogynist Farangs who have failed miserably at relationships with western women/ in the west and will never get over it. Familiar with them maybe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 As in, Thai women, all 30 million of them? Of course they all like the same man. Without revealing too much, I can tell you, boy is he exhausted, but happier than most. OK. If you're prepared to 'feed the troll' - then yes, there are always a few basics.... Somebody of a similar age Somebody from a similar background and socio-economic group Somebody who has a similar outlook on life That about sums it up for Western women, but you can throw all of these requirements out of the window for Thai women. Yes, there are some who live in a village where Western men are unknown - they are only looking for love, BUT will understandably look to this from a Thai man first (human nature). Once the man has let them down and they have a child.... an entirely different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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