Ulysses G. Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I guess it's time for someone from the Loony Left to weigh in on this topic. Believe it or not, they already have. It is interesting how posters who usually support this kind of thing get all reactionary when it hits close to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludditeman Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) I guess it's time for someone from the Loony Left to weigh in on this topic. I am not from the UK, so I don't have any particular insight on the riots. The duty of the government of any country is to provide for it's citizens. The government's job is to levels the playing field, giving everyone an opportunity to perform a useful function in society. For some, that means housing, medical care, food and education. The government also has a responsibility to provide safety and security for all citizens. The duty of citizens is to be a productive member of society, to the best of their ability. At the end of the day, individuals are responsible for their behavior. Those who have a history of irresponsible legal behavior need to be removed from society. Lots of comments about 'useful function in society' from people who probably 1) Have absented themselves from that society. 2) No longer play any useful part in that society. One wonders if these people were ever to return to their home countries, who would be considered the worse citizen, a looter/rioter, or a male who lived in Thailand. I know the answer from 50% of the western population (the female part) Edited August 14, 2011 by ludditeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludditeman Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Thia is a very worthwhile read about corruption and stealing. An open letter to David Camerons' parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I guess it's time for someone from the Loony Left to weigh in on this topic. I am not from the UK, so I don't have any particular insight on the riots. The duty of the government of any country is to provide for it's citizens. The government's job is to levels the playing field, giving everyone an opportunity to perform a useful function in society. For some, that means housing, medical care, food and education. The government also has a responsibility to provide safety and security for all citizens. The duty of citizens is to be a productive member of society, to the best of their ability. At the end of the day, individuals are responsible for their behavior. Those who have a history of irresponsible legal behavior need to be removed from society. Lots of comments about 'useful function in society' from people who probably 1) Have absented themselves from that society. 2) No longer play any useful part in that society. One wonders if these people were ever to return to their home countries, who would be considered the worse citizen, a looter/rioter, or a male who lived in Thailand. I know the answer from 50% of the western population (the female part) Yes, I see at a stroke you have stereotyped the entire male expat population living in Thailand. Of course I see how someone who worked all their lives and retired overseas for a bit of sun and relaxation would invariably be looked down on as a sex tourist, whilst hooded youths with a chip on their shoulder who never worked a day in their lives would be held in higher esteem. Congratulations on your first troll post by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 regarding the feral underclass... I remember James Whale's (straight talking, no nonsense british radio presenter & legend) serious take on population control : 1. all males should be sterilized at birth 2. at 18, they apply (if they so wish) for a license to breed 3. extensive checks are done on them & their circumstances 4. if they pass, they get the reversal operation.. I think he still advocates it.. (along with Nazis.??) Why are men always the victims of these silly suggestions. How about a 5 year implant under the skin of women.After all, it does appear to be the women who breed for benefits, not the men. Nobody has suggested army snipers on rooftops yet? No imagination I suppose. Old news. Mr. Swift penned A Modest Proposal for Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being a Burden on Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Publick in 1729. More imaginative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
food4thought Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The whites have become black, innit?! Well that's according to the Beeb. wat dis blood chatting about cuz, dissing is no respect dya get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 OK, it's time to get back on the topic of the thread, rather than on the geographical location of posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Again, these protesters/rioters are NOT anarchists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Again, these protesters/rioters are NOT anarchists. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The whites have become black, innit?! Well that's according to the Beeb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14513517 No, that's according to David Starkey - it's a news broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 The whites have become black, innit?! Well that's according to the Beeb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14513517 No, that's according to David Starkey - it's a news broadcast. I wer just sayin' wot ee sed, everyone spells respect respekt now. Respekt meanin' don't diss me or nuffink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Youtube, '' Scooter rider attacked in London riots ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Yesterday 'kids' (street-gangs) in Gothenburg and Malmoe (two cities with very high per cent of immigrants in Sweden) decided to [join forces and] copy the events in UK. Not any protests or demonstrations...but the burning and looting. Edited August 17, 2011 by TAWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmos Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 (edited) 17 August 2011 Last updated at 21:56 GMT PM defends 'tough' riot sentences handed out by courts Prime Minister David Cameron has defended courts for handing out "tough" sentences for those involved in the riots across England. Some MPs and campaigners say there were examples of terms being too harsh. On Tuesday, two men were jailed for four years at Chester Crown Court for using Facebook to incite riots. One is to appeal against the sentence. Lord Carlile, Lib Dem peer and Howard League for Penal Reform president, said some decisions were "questionable". read more Edited August 18, 2011 by Atmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmos Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 re #254 and the sentences form the ones that have had media coverage, no mention of reparation, guess that's out of the question as there's no ability to repay. Anyone knows what happens to the recovered goods - insurance companies will be having auctions? as couldn't take the eg computers, tvs, back to shops for re-sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Funny how many people here are knocking these rioters but supported the red shirts while they were burning down Bangkok and looting here. Personally I can better understand this one. At least this one was the organic result of years of bigotry and injustice, just like we saw in Watts here in the States. Unlike the red shirts being paid off to revolt. Heh, I bet a bunch of British are wishing they didn't let their govt take their guns away now! The British never had guns,in the way you are indicating. But they can apply for a shotgun licence for hunting or sport purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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