ronthai Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Hope this is in the correct forum area. Yesterday I got mugged and robbed, pushed off the motorbike and also beaten by 5 guys. I know who it is (one of them), but of course there is no proof what so ever. Anybody any idea's how I should proceed with this. I can get a copy of the ID of the one I know. Get the police involved or not? What is the use of going to the police, because there is little they can do, since how to prove it was him. For the record, this was a personal attack not random. Edited August 12, 2011 by Scott formatting/Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latindancer Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I've learned from bitter experience that it is best to do the correct thing.....which in this case is to go to the police. Why not ? The people involved need to see that there are consequences for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Waiting to report the incident to the police was/is not going to be in your favor, unless you were injured or have another valid reason. A visit to the local station for something like this is the normal way, law abiding citizens would approach it. Otherwise, you may be leaving yourself open for a steady diet of physical abuse or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murgatroyd Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I've learned from bitter experience that it is best to do the correct thing.....which in this case is to go to the police. Why not ? The people involved need to see that there are consequences for their actions. And what can they do? It's 5 against 1. They will just say, that at the time of the attack they were having a good time someplace else, and have never seen the victim before. Obviously the op have done something not to their liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewbkk Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? Yep, correct reply. Going to the police could make things worse. Basically, if you leave Thais alone, they will leave you alone. If you've screwed up -- and if you've screwed up badly -- go and see the guys and apologise. Buy them each a bottle of cheap whisky. ALWAYS avoid getting into trouble with Thai men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamezz Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Have them "taken care of", heard it's not that expensive in Thailand... On a serious note though, you should still go to the police and report it. What did you do to offend him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrona Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 is this female related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Depends on the circumstances leading up to the assault. Did Thais, farangs or both attack you? What were the reasons why they attacked you? Was there any sort of altercation prior to the assault? Or have there been any disputes between you and this group in the past? Are you involved in anything that you shouldn’t be involved with? What sort of grievances does this group have with you? These are the sorts of questions that the police are going to ask you. So if you believe that in this case, you are the innocent party, than you should report this matter to them. Or if you believe that there is a chance that going to the police may worsen your situation, than whatever actions you take next, must be up to your own discretion and judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) 'ronthai' you say you know one of your attackers, you say this was not random…….Must be some history to all this. Yes, you're a victim of an assault, but I feel your leaving details out that I believe, you think will lesson sympathy for you. But if you are genuinely at a loss as to what action to take now and you're seeking advice………For that to happen, we need the details mate. Spill! Edited August 12, 2011 by Tonto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 'ronthai' you say you know one of your attacker, you say this was not random…….Must be some history to all this. Yes, you're a victim of an assault, but I feel your leaving details out that I believe, you think will lesson sympathy for you. But if you are genuinely at a loss as to what action to take now and you're seeking advice………For that to happen, we need the details mate. Spill! Yeah ! like has been said is it female related, is it money related, is drug related, have you set about this guy you know before, are you Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthai Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) What was the reason for this "personal attack? I know the guy from a bar where he works. I found out that a few years ago he ripped off a friend of my 3 times (business wise) and also pulled a gun on him. Therefore I politely, but strongly asked him not to speak to me again. I never even told his boss and as far I was concerned he could stay working there, but just leave me alone. He made some threatening moves in the bar which I ignored. Later that evening he had a problem with someone else and quite his job. Basicly that is it Edited August 12, 2011 by ronthai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasRanger Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Get the guy on his own and have a friendly chat with him and discuss with him the error of his ways. Or, find someone who can discuss on your behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieovaseas Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Yes OP, more details..Not much use asking for our sterling advice and having posters tell you to report it to the cops if it is a situation where the cops cannot help. Using my psychic internet powers (which are rarely ever wrong i might add) i would say you have had a dispute over a woman, money or services rendered..that were not legit..? To which you have told the Thai recipient to F....off..? (or words to that effect) In his Thainess he has lost some face from a farang and arranged his buddies for payback..? How far off am I? ( I am even seeing guys in flouro vests....i am feeling this could be motorcais ) edit: Late posting and batteries in crystal ball dead Edited August 12, 2011 by ozzieovaseas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrona Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? I know the guy from a bar where he works. I found out that a few years ago he ripped off a friend of my 3 times (business wise) and also pulled a gun on him. Therefore I politely, but strongly asked him not to speak to me again. I never even told his boss and as far I was concerned he could stay working there, but just leave me alone. He made some threatening moves in the bar which I ignored. Later that evening he had a problem with someone else and quite his job. Basicly that is it if the business is/was legit then why didn't your friend report him....especially as he is pulling guns? you have just learnt a big lesson in life, don't get involved in others disputes and make them personal...especially in Thailand. my advice before he bullies you some more, either report him or move out of the area....i'd suggest the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? I know the guy from a bar where he works. I found out that a few years ago he ripped off a friend of my 3 times (business wise) and also pulled a gun on him. Therefore I politely, but strongly asked him not to speak to me again. I never even told his boss and as far I was concerned he could stay working there, but just leave me alone. He made some threatening moves in the bar which I ignored. Later that evening he had a problem with someone else and quite his job. Basicly that is it No ,mate there is much more.You have done something that has upset a lot of people. Sorry ,but your English , is not good, makes it difficult to understand.You do not seem to understand what is the primary cause of all this. Or refuse to acknowledge that reason.You need to be a lot more honest. With us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 All you can do with scum is to avoid them. Your first mistake was confronting him. You should have kept the info to yourself, politely smiled at said scum whenever you saw him and kept your distance. Never let anyone know what you are thinking, especially if it's negative toward the other party. You might be able to get away with telling someone in the west that they are a subhuman piece of <deleted>, but in Thailand that will make you an enemy for life. Go to the police? For what? In my experience, they will do nothing unless paid to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? Perhaps we're not getting the full story.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokrick Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Change your bar and keep away from him problem solved. If you report this you will probably be in more trouble because he will no doubt have friends in the BIB. Thais will always side with Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 No ,mate there is much more.You have done something that has upset a lot of people. Sorry ,but your English , is not good, makes it difficult to understand.You do not seem to understand what is the primary cause of all this. Or refuse to acknowledge that reason.You need to be a lot more honest. With us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renoir Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? I know the guy from a bar where he works. I found out that a few years ago he ripped off a friend of my 3 times (business wise) and also pulled a gun on him. Therefore I politely, but strongly asked him not to speak to me again. I never even told his boss and as far I was concerned he could stay working there, but just leave me alone. He made some threatening moves in the bar which I ignored. Later that evening he had a problem with someone else and quite his job. Basicly that is it I wonder why you go to a bar where a guy pull a gun on your friend. Obviously, this guy is dangerous. I would have avoided that bar if I was you. I am sorry that your friend has been ripped off 3 times but I don't understand why he did not learn his lesson after being ripped off the first time. I think you should report the attack immediately. Or else move to another city. Renoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) 'ronthai' Well I don't know if you have any Thai blood in you. But this is a case in point about staying out of Thai peoples business. I hear you say it was all about a friend being ripped-off by this guy, (where's your friend now?) how did you find out your mate was coned by this guy? I realize you felt you owed you mate some loyalty but…………Strong words to a bloke who pulled a gun on your friend!! What were you thinking when you give him a gob full. Did you think he would see the error of his way and turn over a new leaf and think your someone not to be messed with? This is only my opinion; you could be in bigger trouble than you realize, and sure this guy is a butthole…….and a localhood! But every time this guy see's you, he remembers how you disrespected him, (in his eye's) you made him lose face, and that is all important to this guy! I don't won't to sound melodramatic, I'm now shrinking violet mate, but I would get the <deleted> out of dodge……..If it was me. This guy was not in the crew that attacked you……He was running it! Why take a chance. Like I said, it's only my opinion, but if you're going to bump your gums to local Thai hoods who pulls gun on folk you best start wearinga stab proof vest....................... Keep your dislikes of certain Thai individuals to yourself…..They don't take criticism very well……..Do they? Best of luck mate! Edited August 13, 2011 by metisdead Font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 What was the reason for this "personal attack? I know the guy from a bar where he works. I found out that a few years ago he ripped off a friend of my 3 times (business wise) and also pulled a gun on him. Therefore I politely, but strongly asked him not to speak to me again. I never even told his boss and as far I was concerned he could stay working there, but just leave me alone. He made some threatening moves in the bar which I ignored. Later that evening he had a problem with someone else and quite his job. Basicly that is it It sounds like someone gave you some old news and thought you were man enough to bring it up. The old news was this guy had ripped off a friend( none of your business) and pulled a gun on him (red flags flashing warning the guy is dangerous) You told him its ok he works were he was working( as if he needs your consent). Then told him to never speak to you again ( not to smart just quit talking to him problem solved) He made threatening remarks to you in the bar which you ignored( you bring up old wounds for the guy who is a dangerous guy and confront him and expect him to all of a sudden become a nice guy,not to bright I would say) I would say you should have minded your own business for starters. Second when the guy showed he wasnot going to take your attitude you should have left the bar never to return. I would like to know one other thing did you get beat up the same night he quit his job? This is just my opinion for what it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieovaseas Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Something does'nt add up here. Why would you stick your neck out, and (potentially) provoke someone you already know is a nutter who pulls guns in public places and has ripped off your "friend" 3 times?? In any case, people like this are irrational and cannot be reasoned with or messed around with. Friend or not, you will do best to get the h3ll outta there before he really blows his top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Our ronthai seems to have taken a powder and gone all quite. So I guess that puts an end to this thread. But all is not lost! Tune into next weeks exciting episode titled: ronthai takes on a bunch of chain wielding Nazis and saves a Thai village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greystag52 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) I agree fully with ozzieovaseas sounds to me you should mind your own buisness,and you need a good slap,just thank yourself lucky he did not pull a gun on you. Edited August 13, 2011 by metisdead Using bold font is not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 There is a saying, You are know by the friends you keep. Lets see ripped off three times not to bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 From what I understand you will usually get a final warning - sounds like you have been warned. Unless you are a cat, take some others advise and move on, find a new bar etc. Report it? Seriously? Unless you are some famous musical person, don't expect much help. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailspin Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 you are now the offical Neville Chamberlain of TV....do not appease or negotiate with criminals What was the reason for this "personal attack? Yep, correct reply. Going to the police could make things worse. Basically, if you leave Thais alone, they will leave you alone. If you've screwed up -- and if you've screwed up badly -- go and see the guys and apologise. Buy them each a bottle of cheap whisky. ALWAYS avoid getting into trouble with Thai men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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