Don"T Tell Me Ladyboys Are Normal

[saraburioz]

My brother in law is a ladyboy and a nice affable ladyboy. I like him but don't trust him with my kids as I have posted about on here before.

Many people say ladyboys are normal in Thailand but I believe they are mentally ill.

I discovered that they do, in fact, suffer from a psychiatric disorder, stated by the American Psychiatric Association.

This disorder is "Gender Identity Disorder" or GID for short.

I feel that is important that people in this country know this and NOT to let their child decide for themselves. A child or teenager should be sent to a professional mentala health expert to be helped. Too often these people are accepted to easily as just being a ladyboy when help could be available.

Also, do you think that a ladyboy should be put in a position of responsibility or trust?

I'm not so sure but would like some opinions.

[Jingthing]

One contemporary treatment for this disorder consists primarily of physical modifications to bring the body into harmony with one's perception of mental (psychological, emotional) gender identity, rather than vice versa.[9]

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More efficient to see a SURGEON than a shrink. Snip snip.

[saraburioz]

One contemporary treatment for this disorder consists primarily of physical modifications to bring the body into harmony with one's perception of mental (psychological, emotional) gender identity, rather than vice versa.[9]

wiki

More efficient to see a SURGEON than a shrink. Snip snip.

But what if you got it cut off and medicine found a new drug to cure you - wouldn't you be a bit annoyed?

[Semper]

I discovered that they do, in fact, suffer from a psychiatric disorder

What are the symptoms? Are you a member of 'American Psychiatric Association'? Are you a psychiatrist?

[Jingthing]

I agree such young people should get counseling as they are facing a difficult thing. Each case is different.

[morry]

Not sure if you're trolling?

I don't see why you couldn't trust your kids with a ladyboy unless you think all ladyboys are also pedophiles. Which is not true.

Secondly, GID might apply to some, but certainly not all of them. There's a lot more to it than that, I suggest you do some research.

Thirdly, even if it was a choice, rather than being something you are genetically/epigenetically predisposed to, who cares? I'd be saddened to think that people out there think there is something morally wrong with it.

[leo12345]

I have only met 1 normal ladyboy in my life and the ladyboy was post snip.

As far as my personal views, I would not be too keen on leaving my children alone with.

[Jingthing]

Not sure if you're trolling?

I don't see why you couldn't trust your kids with a ladyboy unless you think all ladyboys are also pedophiles. Which is not true.

Secondly, GID might apply to some, but certainly not all of them. There's a lot more to it than that, I suggest you do some research.

Thirdly, even if it was a choice, rather than being something you are genetically/epigenetically predisposed to, who cares? I'd be saddened to think that people out there think there is something morally wrong with it.

I am also wondering what the problem is with the kids. There is no rational reason to think TS people are more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else. If he has a SPECIFIC fear based on specific behavior of his relative, that would be reason. Perhaps he thinks the kids will "catch" the TS thing by example or thinks he doesn't want them to be exposed to something different to be seen as acceptable. That also sounds irrational.

I don't see the point of stressing over the word normal here. If a baby is born a boy and declares later he wants to be a girl, that is certainly something you've got to notice and needs to be dealt with somehow. I don't think you can force such a person to change what they are on the inside, but society can indeed make their lives miserable.

[TommyDee]

I grew up in an anti gay generation. by the 80's I knew a few openly gay blokes and about half I got on with, the other half i wouldnt have got on with had they been straight, gay, or female. c'est la vie. But living out and about in the world and being quite happy with my own status those i got to know well became friends. I think sexual choice is "up to you" as long as it doesnt involve youngster or me.

ladyboys were a new phenomenum (cant spell) to me when i first arrived on these shores. In the Uk most of the transvestites you meet have a 5 o clock shadow and hairy legs (sorry they just do). here it was often ( and sometimes still is) hard to see which was female born and which wanted to be female.

But you know what. you have your life, its what you have chosen. we really should enjoy the fact that Thailand is a live and let live society. if you want to dress up in a feather and gold outfit and ride a bike around the city, you can. some laugh, but he does what rocks his boat. So why not accept the ladyboys. I find them Ok to talk to, once u get over their overly female voices, and onc they drop down into their actual deep voices. they are an OK crowd IMHO

As far as mental health is concerned, what you are really aluding to is "re programming" to a western viewpoint. this of course is LOS, and there is a massive difference. ladyboys, i think, are a part of the culture here. Not yours maybe, but theirs.

We wil, mostly, all be dead in 50 years, some much sooner. Our opinions count for nothing I know, but i find it rather cruel to assume that a ladyboy would be any less safe around a child than a gay or straight bloke. In fact, i can think of many striaght men here i wouldnt allow NEAR my kids. Or do you think being a ladyboy is contagious?

if you dont agree with freedom of choice of sexual orientation, why are you here? most came because there were little or no boundries on "a bit of the other" here, yet that very practice is frowned on in the west. If its Ok for you, or your pals, to "date" women of perhaps 40 years more youth, why isnt it ok for a bloke to decide he wants to dress up as a girl?

I would love to have one on my show, one who can really speak English (always a problem) and is open about his/her life. I imagine it has been quite a journey from being a boy to a nearly girl. watch this space

[saraburioz]

Not sure if you're trolling?

I don't see why you couldn't trust your kids with a ladyboy unless you think all ladyboys are also pedophiles. Which is not true.

Secondly, GID might apply to some, but certainly not all of them. There's a lot more to it than that, I suggest you do some research.

Thirdly, even if it was a choice, rather than being something you are genetically/epigenetically predisposed to, who cares? I'd be saddened to think that people out there think there is something morally wrong with it.

I am also wondering what the problem is with the kids. There is no rational reason to think TS people are more likely to be pedophiles than anyone else. If he has a SPECIFIC fear based on specific behavior of his relative, that would be reason. Perhaps he thinks the kids will "catch" the TS thing by example or thinks he doesn't want them to be exposed to something different to be seen as acceptable. That also sounds irrational.

I don't see the point of stressing over the word normal here. If a baby is born a boy and declares later he wants to be a girl, that is certainly something you've got to notice and needs to be dealt with somehow. I don't think you can force such a person to change what they are on the inside, but society can indeed make their lives miserable.

Every father is concerned about the safety of hi kids. Maybe it is an irrational fear. I don't believe you can catch a mental disorder. If one of my sonos were to develop this thing, I would be shocked.

[adder]

So you come on a forum full of crackpots to tell everybody that there is other crackpots on the earth . Just because some have a prob with their genda don't make them peados .Maybe you should go see a shrink about your ladyboy phobia

[473geo]

I have noticed an occasional element of confusion from some of the younger family members when in the company of a lady boy, nothing major you understand, just young people trying to get their heads around what they are seeing, especially when one day he could pass for a guy, the following day he is in make up and high heels.

I find the family friend, who is a lady boy, is usually more wrapped in his own persona and does not bother with the children much at all.

[Lite Beer]

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