DEVATSAR Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 What is the Thai law regarding the difference between someone acting "unlawfull" and "illegal" Any ideas ? Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrad Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The short answer is that they are two different things. Unlawful means "contrary to, prohibited, or unauthorized by law...while necessarily not implying the element of criminality, it is broad enough to include it." Illegal means "against or not authorized by law." So, for example, you could unlawfully stay in your apartment after your lease is up (unlawful detainer) but that's not a crime against the state, it's a civil wrong (tort) against your landlord. If the landlord then took you to court and had you properly evicted, and you then returned to the premises, you might then be guilty of the crime of trespassing. Trespassing is illegal. See how easy? From: "The Straight Dope dot com" _______________________________________________ Also: Black’s Law Dictionary defines unlawful as not authorized by law, illegal. Illegal is defined as forbidden by law, unlawful. Semantically, there is a slight difference. It seems that something illegal is expressly proscribed by statute, and something unlawful is just not expressly authorized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Reckon it depends on whose authority and social order is defining. The perspective might vary from culture to culture. I suspect that many will insist on some sorted standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVATSAR Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Spoke to Thai Police officer today, he spo good English, he paused for a moment, then told me that "unlawful " was against the law and that "ILLEGAL" WAS A SICK BIRD !!!! bloody brilliant, lol lol lol :D he was the training officer for recruits !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) I think unlawful has to do with the law and illeagle is a sick bird. Whoops already posted sorry never read that first. Edited September 12, 2011 by lovelomsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotime Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It's a matter of getting caught. Then it's illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What did you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What did you do? Always get straight to the point, don't ya Semper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Is it related to a previous thread ? Why would a police show up at your house? I've got a mental image of the OP having a meth lab in his kitchen and he's frantically typing his post on TVF as the pigs are kicking in the front door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What did you do? Always get straight to the point, don't ya Semper? Sorry if it offended someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billaaa777 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The short answer is that they are two different things. Unlawful means "contrary to, prohibited, or unauthorized by law...while necessarily not implying the element of criminality, it is broad enough to include it." Illegal means "against or not authorized by law."So, for example, you could unlawfully stay in your apartment after your lease is up (unlawful detainer) but that's not a crime against the state, it's a civil wrong (tort) against your landlord. If the landlord then took you to court and had you properly evicted, and you then returned to the premises, you might then be guilty of the crime of trespassing. Trespassing is illegal. See how easy? From: "The Straight Dope dot com" Really great answer, which is quite unusual for this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVATSAR Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 What did you do? Always get straight to the point, don't ya Semper? Sorry if it offended someone. Didnt offend me, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotime Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) What did you do? An embarrasement of riches, but nothing illegal. Edited September 13, 2011 by Shotime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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