Former Thai PM Anand Fears Poor Understanding Of Democracy Opens Way To Tyranny

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Anand : We must fight absolute control

THE NATION

Former PM fears poor understanding of democracy opens way to tyranny

Former prime minister Anand Panyarachun yesterday called on all Thais to fight against any move to bring the government, court and legislature under the control of one person or group.

During a fund-raising event related to the 1992 pro-democracy uprising at the Montien Riverside Hotel, Anand said the spirit of democracy must be backed up by true understanding of how it works. He cited Adolf Hitler as an example of how one man can use "democracy" to work his way to absolute control.

Anand's comments on Thai democracy coincide with an increasingly heated debate over a controversial call for all the legal consequences of the 2006 military coup to be nullified.

Anand said Thai society could not work out its problems because it was going around in circles, trying to solve the problems by focusing on political mechanisms such as amending the Constitution, elections, politicians and political parties. He said these factors are just mechanisms and not the essence that will lead to development or a good future. Besides, he said, Thais do not possess a public mind; they only get together as a group to oppose something and not to proactively call for something.

"A pro-democracy movement is not just about protests against election fraud or corruption. It must be a fight against a consolidation of the powers without using force or the military,'' Anand said.

The country's justice system has yet to develop, especially in terms of the law, law enforcement and personnel, including educational institutions on justice procedures, he said.

The Council of State should be abolished because the country should not be administered by mainly depending on laws. Members of the Council of State are 70-80 years old, which is too old for the job, he added.

At the same forum, Kanit Na Nakorn, chairman of the Truth for Reconciliation Commission, said Thailand's problems were caused by law enforcement or justice being dictated by individuals' clout. He cited Thaksin Shinawatra's share-concealment case, which was treated differently from other similar cases.

Kanit said the problem is escalating to the point that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Furthermore, there has been abuse of power because the legislative, judicial and executive branches are not kept distinct and checks and balances were not effective to hold authorities accountable, he said.

"We need a check system that holds these officials responsible and accountable," he said.

The country is in dire need of justice reform. The Department of Special Investigation (DSI), courts and police must be accountable, he said.

"We have investigators in many agencies such as the police, prosecutors, DSI and National Anti-Corruption Commission, and they do not work together, but sometimes quarrel. There are behaviours in the justice system that I found offensive - taking the easy way out, not doing the fieldwork, and flattering," he said.

Meanwhile critics of the Nitirat group accused the seven embattled academics of failing to address the problems of corrupt politicians and interference in justice that were rampant before the September 19 coup.

A group of 23 academics calling themselves "Law Lecturers" from several universities issued a statement attacking the Nitirat group, which earlier presented a controversial academic proposal that the September 19, 2006 coup and its subsequent actions including court orders be expunged.

The Law Lecturers questioned why the Nitirat group, which comprises seven Thammasat University lecturers, did not want to nullify the consequences of every coup since the country changed the ruling system in 1932. The fact that the Nitirat group singled out the 2006 coup has led to suspicion that its motive for the proposal was to favour a particular political group.

The Law Lecturers said academics who present their scholarly views to the public must conform to the professional code of conduct and possess ethical awareness, integrity and morals. Their views proposed to the public must be in the public interest and carry no discrimination that distorts academic principles. Academics must not focus only on one particular wrongful conduct and ignore other offences, they said.

They went on to say that academics must use the rule of law to protect the public against corrupt authorities.

-- The Nation 2011-10-03

[hmj]

"We need a check system that holds these officials responsible and accountable," Kanit Na Nakorn said.

"The country's justice system has yet to develop, especially in terms of the law, law enforcement and personnel, including educational institutions on justice procedures," Anand Panyarachun said.

One says we need a check system and the other says we are not developed enough to create such a system.

How can Thailand start with a check system? The present system (elite, politicians, police, justice, army,...) tries to avoid being checked by any means.

My belief is that a complete overhaul of the personal income tax system (including ownership disclosure of land, property and wealth) would be a start.

In some African countries such a check system has been brought in from abroad.

[Thai at Heart]

It is the mere nature of the "winner TAKES all" of Thai politics that is the issue.

I know this is a world wide issue, but many people world wide genuinely enter politics to serve the country. When the reason to enter politics for the vast majority is to protect and enlarge their pockets, they will never ever accept or understand the logic of serving the people. The legal system, the political system and the patronage system are so dishevelled in Thailand, that only a complete cleaning house of dodgy politicians, civil servants and the judiciary will create an atmosphere of checks and balances.

[scotbeve]

In light of the protests in the Us and other countries, we, as subservient pawns in the big business game, are coming to realize that the corporate world, as we know it, does not have to control our lives. I'm sorry if I may have gotten carried away with the below quotes, but IMHO, Teddy Roosevelt was a visionary and a man who stood up for justice and ethics and (probably) the greatest president/statesmen of all time. The quotes below could be applied to todays messes we (yes, we) have brought forth upon ourselves by either the lack of knowledge, the lack of will to get involved, or the greed/selfishness attitude that's shoved down our throats in most aspects in our lives. The bottom line is to get involved with our own lives and how they should be run... Applying this attitude in Thailand, a starting point would be for the people to vote on the laws instead of an "elite" few. To easy here for a small group of people to be swayed or coerced to vote a certain way. (I'd like to put some quotes in here, but I think you get the idea... visit the link)

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.

Theodore Roosevelt

A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues.

Theodore Roosevelt

A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

Theodore Roosevelt

Appraisals are where you get together with your team leader and agree what an outstanding member of the team you are, how much your contribution has been valued, what massive potential you have and, in recognition of all this, would you mind having your salary halved.

Theodore Roosevelt

Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

Theodore Roosevelt

Big jobs usually go to the men who prove their ability to outgrow small ones.

Theodore Roosevelt

Character, in the long run, is the decisive factor in the life of an individual and of nations alike.

Theodore Roosevelt

Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.

Theodore Roosevelt

If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

Theodore Roosevelt

In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

Theodore Roosevelt

It is difficult to make our material condition better by the best law, but it is easy enough to ruin it by bad laws.

Theodore Roosevelt

[ginjag]

"We need a check system that holds these officials responsible and accountable," Kanit Na Nakorn said.

"The country's justice system has yet to develop, especially in terms of the law, law enforcement and personnel, including educational institutions on justice procedures," Anand Panyarachun said.

One says we need a check system and the other says we are not developed enough to create such a system.

How can Thailand start with a check system? The present system (elite, politicians, police, justice, army,...) tries to avoid being checked by any means.

My belief is that a complete overhaul of the personal income tax system (including ownership disclosure of land, property and wealth) would be a start.

In some African countries such a check system has been brought in from abroad.

The system here IS in place, but for the most part not implemented. The thread on the police to be reprimanded for allowing the gambling, and the slap on the wrist for it is your prime example, together with all other government and paid servants who bleed the country without check, and scams that hurt the travel industry the problem is they all stand out glaring the people in the face-blatant-corruption.

The new government forming a ring of fire that will get out of control. I do think the people are afraid to do anything in general, greed makes them be bribed at elections, then hey presto they have to now wait for 4 years.

[gk10002000]

Siiigh. A country has to embrace democracy, teach its principals in elementary and secondary school, and then actually set up its government along democratic lines. Having a constitution that can not be ignored or re-written or tossed out for convenience is usually required also.

[hammered]

Thereis a clash between a "virtuous elite" (to steal a nitirat expression) who think they can manage how the country develops to the best end for all and a growing organized underclass with somewhat dubious leaders who dont want to wait for promises that they dont think will come to fruition and believe in lassez faire demcoracy complete with excesses and clashes will bring a more egalitarian society, and who believe the "virtuous elite" are only interested in preserving their privileges and power of oversight.

If they dont find a compromise, it will be very messy.

[Crushdepth]

"We need a check system that holds these officials responsible and accountable," Kanit Na Nakorn said.

"The country's justice system has yet to develop, especially in terms of the law, law enforcement and personnel, including educational institutions on justice procedures," Anand Panyarachun said.

One says we need a check system and the other says we are not developed enough to create such a system.

How can Thailand start with a check system? The present system (elite, politicians, police, justice, army,...) tries to avoid being checked by any means.

My belief is that a complete overhaul of the personal income tax system (including ownership disclosure of land, property and wealth) would be a start.

In some African countries such a check system has been brought in from abroad.

The system here IS in place, but for the most part not implemented. The thread on the police to be reprimanded for allowing the gambling, and the slap on the wrist for it is your prime example, together with all other government and paid servants who bleed the country without check, and scams that hurt the travel industry the problem is they all stand out glaring the people in the face-blatant-corruption.

The new government forming a ring of fire that will get out of control. I do think the people are afraid to do anything in general, greed makes them be bribed at elections, then hey presto they have to now wait for 4 years.

I fully agree. They have all the trappings necessary for a reasonable democracy and rule of law, but undermine them at every level.

[Crushdepth]

Thereis a clash between a "virtuous elite" (to steal a nitirat expression) who think they can manage how the country develops to the best end for all and a growing organized underclass with somewhat dubious leaders who dont want to wait for promises that they dont think will come to fruition and believe in lassez faire demcoracy complete with excesses and clashes will bring a more egalitarian society, and who believe the "virtuous elite" are only interested in preserving their privileges and power of oversight.

If they dont find a compromise, it will be very messy.

Somewhat dubious leaders? You're too kind

[rogerdee123]

Thereis a clash between a "virtuous elite" (to steal a nitirat expression) who think they can manage how the country develops to the best end for all and a growing organized underclass with somewhat dubious leaders who dont want to wait for promises that they dont think will come to fruition and believe in lassez faire demcoracy complete with excesses and clashes will bring a more egalitarian society, and who believe the "virtuous elite" are only interested in preserving their privileges and power of oversight.

If they dont find a compromise, it will be very messy.

Yes you are correct. However if the "organized underclass" are the Red Shirts, I don't think they want 'Lassez faire" democracy and I think what Anand said about them/society not understanding democracy is 100% correct.

A couple of days ago the Red shirts were publicly complaining (re: another english language newspaper) about some conspiracy, i.e. NGOs complaining about the Govt's policies, while public servants (i.e. the police boss) bringing lawsuits against the Govt, people not giving the Govt a chance, etc etc etc ... when this is indeed what democracy is all about. And also ironically the things they were complaining about were exactly what they were doing and orchestrating against the previous Govt.

[webfact]

Former PM: Thailand Stuck in Old Political Problems

A former prime minister believes that Thailand is still stuck with same old political problems and that a small group of people has monopolized all the power.

He also asserted that political parties and elections are only part of democracy and proposed the disbandment of the Council of State.

Former Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun remarked during his closing speech at a fundraiser for the construction of the May 1992 Memorial that the Thai society is still fighting against the same old political problems, such as charter changes and military coups.

Anand said that elections, political parties and politicians are simply part of the political mechanism and are not the only crucial factors in steering the country toward development.

The former prime minister pointed out that the most serious problems in society nowadays are the monopolization of the judicial and legislative power by a small group of people.

Moreover, he said that Thai people lack public mindedness and have collectively failed to make constructive demands.

Anand also believes that the current judicial system is not fully developed, particularly in terms of the law, enforcement authority, and even legal education.

In additional, the former prime minister proposed that the Council of State be disbanded, saying that the country cannot be administered solely through legal means and that those who sit on the council are too old, bearing the age of between 70 to 80 years.

He stressed that the justice system must truly be impartial and that military coups are not the answer, as has been proven in the past.

-- Tan Network 2011-10-03

[scorecard]

Thereis a clash between a "virtuous elite" (to steal a nitirat expression) who think they can manage how the country develops to the best end for all and a growing organized underclass with somewhat dubious leaders who dont want to wait for promises that they dont think will come to fruition and believe in lassez faire demcoracy complete with excesses and clashes will bring a more egalitarian society, and who believe the "virtuous elite" are only interested in preserving their privileges and power of oversight.

If they dont find a compromise, it will be very messy.

Beware of spin phrases like 'virtuous elites'.

It is true that high ranking officials think they are gods, and they need to be made aware that they are there, receiving a salary to do the will of the people.

IMHO, part of what Khun Anand is saying is that the populace at large don't understand democracy and certainly don't understand that public servants are there to carry out the will of the people through democracy, which generates policies and decisions which are the will of the people. And IMHO Khun Anand is spot on!

I believe that a higher level of control of the country (compared to the so called 'elites') is, disastrously, in the hands of the ruthless incapable politicians who have used dirty deeds to gain their power (and gain the money they have stolen along the way.)

The 'virtous elites' didn't make the promises of 300Baht minimum wage, 15,000Baht start salary, etc etc., these promises were made by the scaly incapable leeeches we call politicians.

I say again, beware of spin phrases like 'virtous elites'.

Edited October 3, 2011 by scorecard

[philw]

In light of the protests in the Us and other countries, we, as subservient pawns in the big business game, are coming to realize that the corporate world, as we know it, does not have to control our lives. I'm sorry if I may have gotten carried away with the below quotes, but IMHO, Teddy Roosevelt was a visionary and a man who stood up for justice and ethics and (probably) the greatest president/statesmen of all time. The quotes below could be applied to todays messes we (yes, we) have brought forth upon ourselves by either the lack of knowledge, the lack of will to get involved, or the greed/selfishness attitude that's shoved down our throats in most aspects in our lives. The bottom line is to get involved with our own lives and how they should be run... Applying this attitude in Thailand, a starting point would be for the people to vote on the laws instead of an "elite" few. To easy here for a small group of people to be swayed or coerced to vote a certain way. (I'd like to put some quotes in here, but I think you get the idea... visit the link)

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.

Theodore Roosevelt

A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues.

Theodore Roosevelt

A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

Theodore Roosevelt

Appraisals are where you get together with your team leader and agree what an outstanding member of the team you are, how much your contribution has been valued, what massive potential you have and, in recognition of all this, would you mind having your salary halved.

Theodore Roosevelt

Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

Theodore Roosevelt

Big jobs usually go to the men who prove their ability to outgrow small ones.

Theodore Roosevelt

Character, in the long run, is the decisive factor in the life of an individual and of nations alike.

Theodore Roosevelt

Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.

Theodore Roosevelt

If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

Theodore Roosevelt

In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

Theodore Roosevelt

It is difficult to make our material condition better by the best law, but it is easy enough to ruin it by bad laws.

Theodore Roosevelt

Great post and even better sentiments.

thanks

[scotbeve]

In light of the protests in the Us and other countries, we, as subservient pawns in the big business game, are coming to realize that the corporate world, as we know it, does not have to control our lives. I'm sorry if I may have gotten carried away with the below quotes, but IMHO, Teddy Roosevelt was a visionary and a man who stood up for justice and ethics and (probably) the greatest president/statesmen of all time. The quotes below could be applied to todays messes we (yes, we) have brought forth upon ourselves by either the lack of knowledge, the lack of will to get involved, or the greed/selfishness attitude that's shoved down our throats in most aspects in our lives. The bottom line is to get involved with our own lives and how they should be run... Applying this attitude in Thailand, a starting point would be for the people to vote on the laws instead of an "elite" few. To easy here for a small group of people to be swayed or coerced to vote a certain way. (I'd like to put some quotes in here, but I think you get the idea... visit the link)

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.

Theodore Roosevelt

A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues.

Theodore Roosevelt

A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

Theodore Roosevelt

Appraisals are where you get together with your team leader and agree what an outstanding member of the team you are, how much your contribution has been valued, what massive potential you have and, in recognition of all this, would you mind having your salary halved.

Theodore Roosevelt

Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

Theodore Roosevelt

Big jobs usually go to the men who prove their ability to outgrow small ones.

Theodore Roosevelt

Character, in the long run, is the decisive factor in the life of an individual and of nations alike.

Theodore Roosevelt

Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.

Theodore Roosevelt

If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

Theodore Roosevelt

In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

Theodore Roosevelt

It is difficult to make our material condition better by the best law, but it is easy enough to ruin it by bad laws.

Theodore Roosevelt

Great post and even better sentiments.

thanks

You're welcome Phil.

[moe666]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

[scotbeve]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

Moe,

Well said and oh so true! An anti-corruption team/program worked for Hong Kong (a monumental task...) so why shouldn't it work here??? Those spy camera sales will be looking good, won't they!!!???

[whybother]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

Moe,

Well said and oh so true! An anti-corruption team/program worked for Hong Kong (a monumental task...) so why shouldn't it work here??? Those spy camera sales will be looking good, won't they!!!???

Having enough money doesn't stop people from being corrupt.

The only thing that stops people being corrupt is appropriate punishment. That's where the problem lies in Thailand.

[scotbeve]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

Moe,

Well said and oh so true! An anti-corruption team/program worked for Hong Kong (a monumental task...) so why shouldn't it work here??? Those spy camera sales will be looking good, won't they!!!???

Having enough money doesn't stop people from being corrupt.

The only thing that stops people being corrupt is appropriate punishment. That's where the problem lies in Thailand.

Whybother,

Agreed... and do away with amnesty for MP's & recycling of cops and other civil servants (the noun being servants...)... They'll need to build 2 or 3 institutions just to accommodate them all (incl. past MP's).

[JoeThePoster]

Former Thai PM Anand Fears Poor Understanding Of Democracy Opens Way To Tyranny

Isn't this the guy who canvassed against allowing any Asian country except China in to the UN Security Council?

[sparebox2]

There is only 1 man; 1 man with absolute control of Thailand; and the richest too.

Guess right, his name is Thaksin.

[ratcatcher]

There is only 1 man; 1 man with absolute control of Thailand; and the richest too.

Guess right, his name is Thaksin.

I don't want the facts to get in the way of your post sparebox, but Thaksin does not have absolute control of Thailand. He would like to think that is possible but it ain't going to happen.

As to being the richest, I am afraid he's way down the list.

Perhaps you are more familiar with these trade names:

1) CP (Charoen Pokphand) group.

2) Red Bull (Krating Daeng)

3) Chang Beer (Thai Bev)

4. Central Group.

These boys make Thaksin look like a piker.

[Roadman]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

Moe,

Well said and oh so true! An anti-corruption team/program worked for Hong Kong (a monumental task...) so why shouldn't it work here??? Those spy camera sales will be looking good, won't they!!!???

Having enough money doesn't stop people from being corrupt.

The only thing that stops people being corrupt is appropriate punishment. That's where the problem lies in Thailand.

Agreed. The whole thai judicary right to the top is if not corrupt, then swayable in their decision making in favour of the latest power broker. Even if there are honest judges making decisions free from pressure then their rulings have little value as those charged with enforcement are more easily brought and sold or swayed by politicial preference. The rule of law in Thailand is an absolute joke and is at the mercy of all.

I have only become fully aware of Thailand's politics since arriving in Thailand when the convicted criminal Thaksin was sweeping to power and beginning his complete undermining of the Thai judicary and thai law. But since then I have heard many more learnered falangs than I talk of this wise PM Khun Anand. Sadly one would like to be able to say how refreshing it is to hear a Thai speak so wisely of the misfortune that is taking this beautiful country into the bloody mess that it is heading but it has been already done to death, as all this has been known for the past five years for those with even a basic understanding of democary and its side kick "the law". One can only hope that Khun Anand and other like minded thai's keep on putting their thoughts and believes out there in the hope it will get through to all least the thai judicary and senior police ranks. Although one comes up against it already when the police are governed by a planted stooge.

[DocN]

Siiigh. A country has to embrace democracy, teach its principals in elementary and secondary school, and then actually set up its government along democratic lines. Having a constitution that can not be ignored or re-written or tossed out for convenience is usually required also.

So <deleted> true! +1

[hammered]

It is always good to read what Anand says. I note he is in favour of abolishing the council of state and doesnt think the military should be used in politics.

[scorecard]

They need to establish a fair taxation system that takes in enough money to pay all of these corrupt politicians, police, and bueacrats a decent wage. When there is no need for corruption and the constant backhander then and only then will they be able to establish a democratic government. Coupled with better pay the enactment and enforcement of anti corruption laws with real prison time.

Until you give these people a reason not to be corrupt, dmocracy will exsist in name only.

Moe,

Well said and oh so true! An anti-corruption team/program worked for Hong Kong (a monumental task...) so why shouldn't it work here??? Those spy camera sales will be looking good, won't they!!!???

Having enough money doesn't stop people from being corrupt.

The only thing that stops people being corrupt is appropriate punishment. That's where the problem lies in Thailand.

Agreed. The whole thai judicary right to the top is if not corrupt, then swayable in their decision making in favour of the latest power broker. Even if there are honest judges making decisions free from pressure then their rulings have little value as those charged with enforcement are more easily brought and sold or swayed by politicial preference. The rule of law in Thailand is an absolute joke and is at the mercy of all.

I have only become fully aware of Thailand's politics since arriving in Thailand when the convicted criminal Thaksin was sweeping to power and beginning his complete undermining of the Thai judicary and thai law. But since then I have heard many more learnered falangs than I talk of this wise PM Khun Anand. Sadly one would like to be able to say how refreshing it is to hear a Thai speak so wisely of the misfortune that is taking this beautiful country into the bloody mess that it is heading but it has been already done to death, as all this has been known for the past five years for those with even a basic understanding of democary and its side kick "the law". One can only hope that Khun Anand and other like minded thai's keep on putting their thoughts and believes out there in the hope it will get through to all least the thai judicary and senior police ranks. Although one comes up against it already when the police are governed by a planted stooge.

I also admire Khun Anand. The truth is that Thailand has many highly capable, balanced, sincere and honest people, but unfortunately 99% of them avoid politics like the plague because they don't want to associated the the scaly people who are currently Thailand's politicians and lawmakers (and breakers).

[yoshiwara]

One's confidence in the Thai academic system improves when the Law Lecturers Group is formed to challenge the Thaksin cover of the Nitirat group from Thammasat University.

Edited November 21, 2011 by yoshiwara