tlansford Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Thanks for the post. Appreciated ! Was just there last week. Glad I went before it was declared a red district. It's obviously a very dangerous place now. I hope it is not. You are welcome to dress in yellow and test the theory out. You know, that IS the funny part about the paranoia expressed on this forum. My mother-in-law is a gentle, religious woman who loves the King. She goes to the temple every day to help the monks and on Mondays she wears a bright, bright yellow shirt. She lives in the neighboring district to the one in this article. She is not purposefully making a political statement, she is just living her life like she always has. She's not being repressed. Her rights aren't being violated. No one is infringing on her liberties. In fact, like most everyone else in her town, they are just worried about their day-to-day lives. So the little slice of real-life that I experience doesn't reflect the hyperbole I read here. It doesn't seem to reflect the hyperbole you write here either. Thanks - I'll try to keep that in mind.
hammered Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue
JAG Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Nice idea, but little point, facts are rarely behind most of the posts here! Its all about who shouts the loudest and for the longest (IMHO). Edited October 16, 2011 by JAG
tlansford Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Sweeeeeet
serenitynow Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Let me know, I'd go. I don't speak Lao though.
mca Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Let me know, I'd go. I don't speak Lao though. Shocking as it may seem they also understand Central Thai.
RogueExpat Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Good idea, however, I doubt Thai Visa membership includes anyone who has been issued red party membership cards which are now mandatory for access to Red administered areas.
hanuman1 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Good idea, however, I doubt Thai Visa membership includes anyone who has been issued red party membership cards which are now mandatory for access to Red administered areas. This sounds exactly like the kind of crap that could easily be dismissed by going on such a journey. Good idea, hammered, I'm up for going just so I can categorically prove this kind of idiot wrong.
RogueExpat Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Good idea, however, I doubt Thai Visa membership includes anyone who has been issued red party membership cards which are now mandatory for access to Red administered areas. This sounds exactly like the kind of crap that could easily be dismissed by going on such a journey. Good idea, hammered, I'm up for going just so I can categorically prove this kind of idiot wrong. Good on you for volunteering. Looking forward to your report. Wish you the best of luck. (Gawd - some people don't know a TIC response when they see one. )
yoshiwara Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Just a few weeks ago "Reconciliation" was the Red Shirt Apologists Brigade mantra, "we must forget the past and bring in unity and reconciliation to all Thais" or something like that. Now it's not only proper, but apparently necessary to carve up the country into Red Shirt Districts and non-Red Shirt Districts. I remember them at the election time "Reconciliation!" was the war... ehh... peace cry. Did I dream about the long arguments about how Abhisit and the Democrats campaign caused divisions in society with their annoying insistence on pointing who did what during the turmoils of the last few years? How Yingluck came along with her message of unity and reconciliation. How, I ask, dividing the country like this furthers any sort of reconciliation? (Expects no answer) It's also not about Thaksin even though the man at the front of the movement states that this villages should have a crimson fringed effigy of the Dear Leader at the town's gate (I wonder if it goes side by side or replacing the golden rimmed one found usually there). Principles, what principles? Say Y today, and it's X tomorrow, whatever it is that makes the movement look better. If there's bile in this post is because it offends me a great deal to see a country slowly but steadily circling down the drain and some people, either doggedly unable or willfully aware of the motion, cheer on the sidelines. Empires have fallen on the hubris of a single man, but they don't do it alone, they need acolytes to push the thing along and while history is bound to place the burden of their guilt on this notable men (for certain acceptions of "notable") the enablers usually scurry away from the book's pages. Well written. Like everything about the Reds, their organisation, their promises, their mantras and their slogans are just outright lies. Reconcillation? From these people? Pui! If there is one thing that identifies a 'red village' it will be the placards showing the image of Thaksin. Despite the red cheerleader continual attempts to separate out the reds from Thaksin, the reds do not oblige that fantasy ever. A few have asked why the red villages are declaring themselves as such. Simple. The hope of reward. What does anybody think Jatuporn has in mind except the promise of reward for supporters and retribution for opponents. Thaksin has form in this regard. Now that the thug demos are currently in abeyance the waving of flags is one way of saying please keep the 500 bahts flowing and we are yours.
Cayenne Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. And I haven't even mentioned our favorite man in Dubai, who once proclaimed he will come back when the first shots are fired when red shirts are threatened but now is largely silent when the country faces a greater crisis.
metisdead Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed.
chooka Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Maybe we should organizer a TV fact findign mission to a few red villages, so everyone could find out in person what it is all about;) As we are talking a few thousand villages to date it is an important issue Good idea, however, I doubt Thai Visa membership includes anyone who has been issued red party membership cards which are now mandatory for access to Red administered areas. What absolute rubbish and total lies. Stop trying to incite hatred. We were in Prachaksinlapakhom last week and there were no armed gaurds on the roads or anyone checking for redshirt membership cards. Mandatory my rear end. Life is normal in the area and there are still people who do not support the redshirts and people who do. The anti redshirt expat movememnt on here should be totally ashamed of themselves with all the fear mongering and hatred they are attempting to incite. Personally I could not care less what colour a person wears and don't give a dam_n about he Thai political system. As an expat myself I know that there is absolutely nothing I can do to convert thais to my personal beliefs. Winning, moaning and trying to incite hatred towards people you personally don't like is a waste of time and won't change a thing. Expats choose to live here knowing the system and are not being held against thier will.
Emptyset Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespondent.com/67088/thai-flood-relief-civilians-leading-the-way-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are.
Cayenne Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespo...-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are. Thanks Emptyset. I guess I was expecting a lot more from the redshirts than the average ordinary Thai citizen given that they have an existing structure in place to quickly disseminate information and mobilize tens of thousands of people, but they chose not to do so. The irony now is that I see a lot of soldiers helping civilians (I'm sure there are quite a number of red shirt supporters in there too) in flood stricken areas and I don't see any of the red shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them?)
jayboy Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespo...-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are. Thanks Emptyset. I guess I was expecting a lot more from the redshirts than the average ordinary Thai citizen given that they have an existing structure in place to quickly disseminate information and mobilize tens of thousands of people, but they chose not to do so. The irony now is that I see a lot of soldiers helping civilians (I'm sure there are quite a number of red shirt supporters in there too) in flood stricken areas and I don't see any of the red shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them?) I'm sure there is genuine and widespread support for the excellent work the army is doing in the present emergency.What formal thanks are given and when is surely not something that needs to be debated now mid-crisis.What many also overlook is that almost certainly the great majority of Thai soldiers are red shirt supporters, sympathisers or PTP voters.
chooka Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespo...-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are. Thanks Emptyset. I guess I was expecting a lot more from the redshirts than the average ordinary Thai citizen given that they have an existing structure in place to quickly disseminate information and mobilize tens of thousands of people, but they chose not to do so. The irony now is that I see a lot of soldiers helping civilians (I'm sure there are quite a number of red shirt supporters in there too) in flood stricken areas and I don't see any of the red shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them?) and I don't see any of the yellow shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them) What I see is red and yellow shirts working together for a common cause but I guess to some hi so farangs on here just can't ever see reds doing anything right. (that just absolutely disgusts me) I haven't seen to many farangs out there helping out either,
chooka Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespo...-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are. Thanks Emptyset. I guess I was expecting a lot more from the redshirts than the average ordinary Thai citizen given that they have an existing structure in place to quickly disseminate information and mobilize tens of thousands of people, but they chose not to do so. The irony now is that I see a lot of soldiers helping civilians (I'm sure there are quite a number of red shirt supporters in there too) in flood stricken areas and I don't see any of the red shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them?) and I don't see any of the yellow shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them) What I see is red and yellow shirts working together for a common cause but I guess to some hi so farangs on here just can't ever see reds doing anything right. (that just absolutely disgusts me) I haven't seen to many farangs out there helping out either, Edited October 18, 2011 by chooka
Buchholz Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 3) The the large working class areas such as Don Mueang, Pathum Thani or Samut Prakan especially have very strong Red Shirt organizations, also reflected in the elections in which you saw in those areas clear election victories of Puah Thai Party. Unofficial results of by-election in Pathum Thani's Constituency 5 sees Democrat candidate win 27,981 votes while Pheu Thai won 24,119 votes /TAN_Network
pimay11 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Give this new Redshirt district a few months and they'll be complaining the govt is not treating them fairly, not providing the same support as to other districts, etc. Wonder what warlord will rule this district? My guess would be the idiot Esaan Rambo. IQ = room temp C.
pimay11 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Always hilarious to read forum red 'oh so reasonable' apologetics for a policy led and promoted by Jatuporn. Shameless or what? And also hillarious to read how many on here think that having a red shirt district is going to create a Nazi Thailand or a Pol Pot regime. They seem so worried that farangs are going to be rounded up and moved to camps or be part of the new Killing Fields. The End is NOT NIGH. It is not me that I am concerned about. I can easily relocate to another country. It is my long time Thai friends and my wife's family that are not falling for the red garbage I am concerned about. Case in point. A couple of months ago a red supporter stabbed and kill his long time friend simply because his friend did not support the Yingluck government. There is nothing hillarious about this.
pimay11 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 It's a shame that this is a wasted opportunity. In a more positive light, the red shirts can be viewed as one of the largest organized "volunteer" groups in Thailand; if they can mobilize 100K people to march into Bangkok and risk life and limb for democracy, surely there is no nobler cause than to help out fellow Thais in times of need? This is a resource that PM Yingluck has failed to utilize and instead we have Jatuporn opening a new village/district and just getting a few red shirts to do token volunteer work. Pretty sure Jatuporn has already been involved with a couple of flood charity events... and many red shirts are doing their bit, of course: http://asiancorrespo...-a-photo-essay/ - just as much as any other ordinary Thai citizens are. Thanks Emptyset. I guess I was expecting a lot more from the redshirts than the average ordinary Thai citizen given that they have an existing structure in place to quickly disseminate information and mobilize tens of thousands of people, but they chose not to do so. The irony now is that I see a lot of soldiers helping civilians (I'm sure there are quite a number of red shirt supporters in there too) in flood stricken areas and I don't see any of the red shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them?) and I don't see any of the yellow shirt leaders at least saying thank you (or maybe it would be too much to ask of them) What I see is red and yellow shirts working together for a common cause but I guess to some hi so farangs on here just can't ever see reds doing anything right. (that just absolutely disgusts me) I haven't seen to many farangs out there helping out either, And your contributiuon was..................................? Please keep it down to ten thousand words or less.
pimay11 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) I have a solution. Why don't they make all the other areas that aren't redshirt areas Yellow shirt areas that should keep the farangs happy. No wait that won't work either because the farangs will complain there are more redshirts and they have more area. Maybe just accept that you have freely come to a country that is prodominantly redshirt and has an elected government which you do not like. Apply for citizenship and at the next election have your say and vote for whom you think is best and accept the decision of the majority. "a country that is prodominantly redshirt" is that your opinion or a fact? Population of Thailand = 70 million. 51% of 70 million = 35.7 million. Link please showing proof there are 35.7 million red shirts in Thailand or it remains only your dream or opinion. To quote Sargent Friday "just the facts Ma'am". Edited April 22, 2012 by pimay11
BirdsandBooze Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 The worst thing for us here is the way whole villages have become Man U supporters and now even a whole district is declaring it`s allegiance to Man U.
Pseudolus Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 The term district is rather vague. Do they mean Tambon or Amphur or just a Mubaan? Eventually tampon, with the same red running the in the streets.
Skywalker69 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 National flooding emergency for well over 1/2 the country, and all Jatuporn can do is 'Spread The Red'. Not spread aid, or instigate flood control measures, no he just wants to spread 'Red Influence' into the very homes of poor Thais, to control their though and voting patterns all the better. Sad, but this guys ar so full of hatred.
TAWP Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 So much hatred for the redshirts and the way thai's are trying to live thier lives in thier country. What have the thais done to you people personally to breed such hatred? If you have such destest and hatred of the country and the people why are you here? +1 This is a democracy and we are guests here. They vote and we can like it or not. But the bottom line is: Leave if you you will! I wish most of you would! Tiger Perhaps you need to understand what a democracy is about...
warfie Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 One small step for man, one giant leap backward for reconcilliation.
h90 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 One small step for man, one giant leap backward for reconcilliation. what reconcilliation? No one wants that...
warfie Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 One small step for man, one giant leap backward for reconcilliation. what reconcilliation? No one wants that... Obviously the reds don't...
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