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Green Mamba Serum Arrived ..At What Cost?

annabel

By annabel
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annabel Gold Member

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Green Mamba snake serum arrive at 7pm from S. Africa; 50 doses at Bt300,000; available at Red Cross, Pharmaceutical Org,Phra Nang Klao /TANN

Means each dose is at 6,000 Baht ..!!!!!!!!!!! ...And here we have a poor person in some wherever floodwater bitten by a Mamba snake having to frantically find 6,000 Baht in how many minutes till the snake bite kills him..? And how does he / she even get to a rescue center where they have these precious 50 doses flown in .....??? Mamamia !! that's all I can say .... Money .... money /... money !!!! 6,000 Baht !!!! for 1 antidote .... repulsive !!! And that too from THE RED CROSS who has had millions pourred in as donations .... this is abominal !!

Blinky Bill Platinum Member

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I just looked a little further only to discover that a few of the little critters escaped from captivity in the flood waters down south in the Bangkok area.

Have any swum upriver to Chiang Mai as yet?

bino Platinum Member

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IMO they should find the owner of these snakes and make him bear all of the costs for the serum, the manpower being used to hunt for them, and every other baht spent.

Tywais Star Member

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I just looked a little further only to discover that a few of the little critters escaped from captivity in the flood waters down south in the Bangkok area.

Have any swum upriver to Chiang Mai as yet?

I've moved the topic from CM so as not to cause further confusion. ;) The green Mamba story here in News Clippings

Jingthing Legendary Member

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And how does he / she even get to a rescue center where they have these precious 50 doses flown in .....???

It's better to have a tiny chance than no chance.

KRS1 Platinum Member

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reminds me of when Piranhas got banned in Thailand and people started to dump them into the river...lol

KHR1010 Senior Member

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IMO they should find the owner of these snakes and make him bear all of the costs for the serum, the manpower being used to hunt for them, and every other baht spent.

If the owner was a Farang this would certainly be the case times extortion fees and etc. However, the owner was a local and his snakes where simply following the evacuation order!

TerraPosse Senior Member

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One has to be quite alert and lucky to see one because they're very shy and fast. Whilst their poison is very potent I have never heard or read of any bites by Green Mambas whilst living in Southern Africa. We had one living locally near the headmasters house at the school where I was teaching. In over three years I only ever once managed to catch a glimpse of it's tail as it rustled the leaves making it's escape. It's really not something one needs to worry about in this flood. The green mambas live in forests not in the water and will have a struggle to survive in the floods. Hunting humans to bite for the fun of it will not be very high on their priority list... ;)

abhaya Senior Member

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Mambas are inhabitants of African dry grasslands and savannas, if they got loose in Issan they might pose a threat since they could adapt to the conditions and start to breed. In flooded Bangkok it is unlikely they would survive for long, the chance of getting bitten by one is in the millionth of a percent. The hype generated by this sort of claptrap (mambas, crocodiles and mickey slipping bar girls oh my) should be directed to more immenant issues such as water born diseases.

asanee Gold Member

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Green (and Black) Mamba indigenous to the African continent. I wasn't aware that the species existed in Thailand.

they escaped from a flooded house were being kept by a local collector/enthusiast or whatever.

Tywais Star Member

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why is this in the chiang mai forum dont we have enough to talk about already like food and the local bars and so on slow news day maybe ???

Keep up. It's not in the Chiang Mai forum, it's in the Bangkok forum. ;)

Rumblecat Silver Member

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Where does it say the Red Cross will be charging the bite victim the 6000b per dose?

Yeah, I'd like to know this as well- the OP has a slightly hysterical tone to it, and some sort of link to the news would be useful. I've not read anything about the Red Cross having the antivenom and charging for it.

bitewhentested Senior Member

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im not a pc wiz but im pretty sure this is the chiang mai forum as its the one im using but i might be wrong i often am

and to be honest there maybe 10 million people in bkk whats the chances of any one getting bitten the snakes have more to fear than the people

i bet they have been skinned gutted curried boiled fried

Tywais Star Member

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im not a pc wiz but im pretty sure this is the chiang mai forum as its the one im using but i might be wrong

Take a look at the very top of this page - Bangkok Forum. I moved the topic from CM shortly after it was posted but a link to here from the CM forum is maintained thus the confusion. ;)

Mrjlh Gold Member

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Unless they store the anti-venom in the area where the snakes are loose, you'll probably never live long enough to get it. It'll kill you in 20 minutes or put you in a coma you'll never recover from. Plus the way people will treat you at the scene, will probably kill you too. Wrap a tourniquet too tight (wrong) and not mark the time of the bite. Waste time trying to splint your wound (WRONG). Elevate your arm or leg (WRONG)so the venom gets to your heart faster. Same as making you lie down (WRONG). Make you wade through all the water (WRONG...Let's get that heart rate going).

I attended many of the seminars at the Red Cross Snake Farm in Bangkok to learn as much as I can about venomous bite here. Anywhere in Thailand, if you get bit: stay calm as you can. Catch, kill, or take a picture of the snake that bit you. (I would never kill a snake except in this case. You need to be able to have a positive identification in order to get the correct anti-venom.) Apply a tourniquet if possible just above the bit sight but not tight! Draw a line at the bit site and write the time at the site. Do this every ten minutes (it shows venom progression). DO NOT elevate the bite site. Do not lay down unless you are going into shock. (And this is debatable because the venom is already going to do damage.) The reason is you need to keep the body part bitten lower than the heart. Get to a hospital as soon as you can. The sooner the better. Try not to exert any unnecessary movement. Let others carry you.

The Green Mamba's that got loose are not native to Thailand and might not survive here. One due to the climate. And there is a very good chance of several other snakes killing them. RAT snake or Cobra in particular. We'll see what the news reports.

JMHO...

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