IMHO Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hi Thailot. I find the economy of the Trailblazer better than MU7 in the highway (130 Kmh/2000rpm with the 6th gear) but MU7 slightly better in the mix drive (2to4th gear up and down in my island roads). I love the 4 discs and independent rear gears, coming from the land of Ferrari,Maserati and Lamborghini I an not so much in love with the automatic gear. But useful for a quiet drive or in town. Smoother driving and better road holding, a bit noisy (same as MU7) and a little underpowered, but anyway enough for me. I could considerate to chip it... After 25.000 Km in one year without any problem I can say I'm happy for a bit overpriced purchase... I like the look and practically all the mechanical upgrades of the Trailblazer but I was reluctant to leave the 'Tried and True' Isuzu 3.0L. Now, it looks like the long awaited '2014' Mu-7 is going to have the Trailblazer-look! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TDkFHnGhg (I believe I mentioned earlier?) that at the time I bought my SUV, I upgraded to rear disc brakes and larger 'discs' as well as added a set of Gooru shock absorbers and Yokohama Parada Spec-X performance tires. The ride quality (and stopping performance) greatly improved! I have to get to a dealership to test drive a Trailblazer so I can get a 'definitive' comparison once and for all. I will be especially looking to feel how much better its 6-speed transmission is compared to the rather antiquated stock transmission I am stuck with! I hope to report back! That video is nothing but a series of photoshop mockups... We're all still left to wonder exactly what the new MU-7 will look like - logic and business sense says it will be a re-styled Trailblazer, but during interviews, Isuzu execs have been trying to make a point of how unique it will be... Chances are the guy responsible for the photoshops isn't tooo far off the mark though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 We're all still left to wonder exactly what the new MU-7 will look like - logic and business sense says it will be a re-styled Trailblazer, but during interviews, Isuzu execs have been trying to make a point of how unique it will be... Chances are the guy responsible for the photoshops isn't tooo far off the mark though. Just as with the release of the Trailblazer: We got a preview of the 'Saudi' model which turned out to be the released 'Thai model' version - only dummed-down. The 'next generation' MU-7 is looking to be a copy of the Thai Trailblazer exterior styling. The only undecided is whose engine the new Mu-7 will have! It speaks volumes, to me at least, that the powers to be aren't satisfied enough with(?) the Trailblazer's 2.8 diesels to go with them. I wish they would at least keep the Isuzu 3.0L but mate it with a good 6-speed auto transmission. We will all know for sure before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) We're all still left to wonder exactly what the new MU-7 will look like - logic and business sense says it will be a re-styled Trailblazer, but during interviews, Isuzu execs have been trying to make a point of how unique it will be... Chances are the guy responsible for the photoshops isn't tooo far off the mark though. Just as with the release of the Trailblazer: We got a preview of the 'Saudi' model which turned out to be the released 'Thai model' version - only dummed-down. The 'next generation' MU-7 is looking to be a copy of the Thai Trailblazer exterior styling. The only undecided is whose engine the new Mu-7 will have! It speaks volumes, to me at least, that the powers to be aren't satisfied enough with(?) the Trailblazer's 2.8 diesels to go with them. I wish they would at least keep the Isuzu 3.0L but mate it with a good 6-speed auto transmission. We will all know for sure before too long. Actually, the engine we do know - it'll be a 2.5L Twin Turbo (as supplied on EU market DMax's now), but the AT is an unknown.. Note that there was never going to be any collaboration between GM and Isuzu on engines for the current gen Dmax/PPV - so there's nothing to read into that. Edited July 16, 2013 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Actually, the engine we do know - it'll be a 2.5L Twin Turbo (as supplied on EU market DMax's now), but the AT is an unknown..Note that there was never going to be any collaboration between GM and Isuzu on engines for the current gen Dmax/PPV - so there's nothing to read into that. So they chose a 2.5L twin turbo! Now I wonder if the Trailblazer will stick with its (no vote of no-confidence?) 2.8L because of contractual agreements, etc., giving the public some 'choice' or will they also go with the 2.5 twin turbo? Is there anything out there to suggest how the 2.5 twin turbo performs? It will be interesting to see how it compares 'overall' to the other LOS SUV engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Actually, the engine we do know - it'll be a 2.5L Twin Turbo (as supplied on EU market DMax's now), but the AT is an unknown..Note that there was never going to be any collaboration between GM and Isuzu on engines for the current gen Dmax/PPV - so there's nothing to read into that. So they chose a 2.5L twin turbo! Now I wonder if the Trailblazer will stick with its (no vote of no-confidence?) 2.8L because of contractual agreements, etc., giving the public some 'choice' or will they also go with the 2.5 twin turbo? Is there anything out there to suggest how the 2.5 twin turbo performs? It will be interesting to see how it compares 'overall' to the other LOS SUV engines. As noted, there is not going to be any collaboration between Chev and Isuzu on engines - both will be going their own ways on that. Chev will continue to use their VM Motori designed 2.5 and 2.8, Isuzu will be using updated versions of their tried and true 2.5 design (not the same as the Chev 2.5), and apparently retiring the 3.0 The updated twin-turbo 2.5 performs about the same as the current 3.0, with maybe a touch more noticeable torque. The big gain is in fuel efficiency over the outgoing 3.0 You can read some EU reviews of the 2012-3 Dmax to see what they say about the twin turbo lump... Edited July 16, 2013 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdiver Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Actually, the engine we do know - it'll be a 2.5L Twin Turbo (as supplied on EU market DMax's now), but the AT is an unknown..Note that there was never going to be any collaboration between GM and Isuzu on engines for the current gen Dmax/PPV - so there's nothing to read into that. So they chose a 2.5L twin turbo! Now I wonder if the Trailblazer will stick with its (no vote of no-confidence?) 2.8L because of contractual agreements, etc., giving the public some 'choice' or will they also go with the 2.5 twin turbo? Is there anything out there to suggest how the 2.5 twin turbo performs? It will be interesting to see how it compares 'overall' to the other LOS SUV engines. As noted, there is not going to be any collaboration between Chev and Isuzu on engines - both will be going their own ways on that. Chev will continue to use their VM Motori designed 2.5 and 2.8, Isuzu will be using updated versions of their tried and true 2.5 design (not the same as the Chev 2.5), and apparently retiring the 3.0 The updated twin-turbo 2.5 performs about the same as the current 3.0, with maybe a touch more noticeable torque. The big gain is in fuel efficiency over the outgoing 3.0 You can read some EU reviews of the 2012-3 Dmax to see what they say about the twin turbo lump... isuzu in norway: engine 4JK1-TC 2499cc 120 kw/ 163 hp @ 3600rpm torque 400nm 1400-2000rpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 isuzu in norway: engine 4JK1-TC 2499cc 120 kw/ 163 hp @ 3600rpm torque 400nm 1400-2000rpm What are the specs of the Trailblazer's 2.5L and its 2.8L? I'm guessing the 2.8L reaches its max Hp at a lower RPM than the Isuzu 3.0L? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxter Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 The Trailblazer 2.8l is rated at 132kW I put my Trailblazer on a dyno the other day with my chip and I'm getting 148kW. Don't know about the 2.5 apart from the fact I wouldn't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The Trailblazer 2.8l is rated at 132kW I put my Trailblazer on a dyno the other day with my chip and I'm getting 148kW. Don't know about the 2.5 apart from the fact I wouldn't have one. That's good! And now you can know that your chip is working, too! Which dyno did you use? I am still looking for an Android dyno that is easy for me to setup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobaan Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I want to buy a TB LTZ -color RED- I pay in cash and I want it delivered 2nd week of December. That's my line when walking into the Chev showrooms in Udon Thani , Nong Bua Lampoo and Sawan Din Daeng. One should imagine a salesperson working on commission would jump right thru the ceiling to get my business !!! No so . I get all kind of flack " Thais don't like RED " " You will not be able to sell a red car " etc etc . Who cares -I want REd - end of story . Now I hear that RED is only manufactured if there are 50 orders -countrywide -for that color. Could be , but still a bunch of Bull . Can anyone lead me to a more responsive dealer , please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 You realize Thais regard a Red Car belongs to a Gay Person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I want to buy a TB LTZ -color RED- I pay in cash and I want it delivered 2nd week of December. That's my line when walking into the Chev showrooms in Udon Thani , Nong Bua Lampoo and Sawan Din Daeng. One should imagine a salesperson working on commission would jump right thru the ceiling to get my business !!! No so . I get all kind of flack " Thais don't like RED " " You will not be able to sell a red car " etc etc . Who cares -I want REd - end of story . Now I hear that RED is only manufactured if there are 50 orders - countrywide - for that color. Could be, but still a bunch of Bull . Can anyone lead me to a more responsive dealer , please. I am with you - a Red Trailblazer would be my color of preference, too! These kinds of choices are ones personal preferences - the 'one' who is paying their cash for the vehicle. I would call and/or go to a more customer friendly dealership even if it meant going to Bkk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I want to buy a TB LTZ -color RED- I pay in cash and I want it delivered 2nd week of December. That's my line when walking into the Chev showrooms in Udon Thani , Nong Bua Lampoo and Sawan Din Daeng. One should imagine a salesperson working on commission would jump right thru the ceiling to get my business !!! No so . I get all kind of flack " Thais don't like RED " " You will not be able to sell a red car " etc etc . Who cares -I want REd - end of story . Now I hear that RED is only manufactured if there are 50 orders -countrywide -for that color. Could be , but still a bunch of Bull . Can anyone lead me to a more responsive dealer , please. Just order a white one and pay 50-60K to have it resprayed in your favorite shade of red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobaan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 You realize Thais regard a Red Car belongs to a Gay Person. No ,I did nit know that . Thanks for the info .no problem however-most of the time I will have someone with me who can vouch for the difference!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjonburi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Actually, the engine we do know - it'll be a 2.5L Twin Turbo (as supplied on EU market DMax's now), but the AT is an unknown..Note that there was never going to be any collaboration between GM and Isuzu on engines for the current gen Dmax/PPV - so there's nothing to read into that. So they chose a 2.5L twin turbo! Now I wonder if the Trailblazer will stick with its (no vote of no-confidence?) 2.8L because of contractual agreements, etc., giving the public some 'choice' or will they also go with the 2.5 twin turbo? Is there anything out there to suggest how the 2.5 twin turbo performs? It will be interesting to see how it compares 'overall' to the other LOS SUV engines. As noted, there is not going to be any collaboration between Chev and Isuzu on engines - both will be going their own ways on that. Chev will continue to use their VM Motori designed 2.5 and 2.8, Isuzu will be using updated versions of their tried and true 2.5 design (not the same as the Chev 2.5), and apparently retiring the 3.0 The updated twin-turbo 2.5 performs about the same as the current 3.0, with maybe a touch more noticeable torque. The big gain is in fuel efficiency over the outgoing 3.0 You can read some EU reviews of the 2012-3 Dmax to see what they say about the twin turbo lump... isuzu in norway: engine 4JK1-TC 2499cc 120 kw/ 163 hp @ 3600rpm torque 400nm 1400-2000rpm Hmm.. that power band certainly seems short and spiky.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiud Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I have a Trailblazer LTZ Red for 14 months now. Delivered in one week at the launch last year (probably nobody want it). PS : I'm straight PPS: Red is beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiud Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ah, in 14 months, 30.000 Km and hundreds of Trailblazer crossed, never seen another red one :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
899cc Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ah, in 14 months, 30.000 Km and hundreds of Trailblazer crossed, never seen another red one :-) I've seen another gay red one in Pattaya, your not alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I have a Trailblazer LTZ Red for 14 months now. Delivered in one week at the launch last year (probably nobody want it). Ah, in 14 months, 30.000 Km and hundreds of Trailblazer crossed, never seen another red one :-) PPS: Red is beautiful! Beautiful indeed, especially with a beige interior! .... nice picturesque photo of your SUV! I have seen about 3 Red Trailblazers out of the dozen or so that have caught my eye. Edited September 28, 2013 by thailoht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Thats a Nice Red One, no pun intended, leans more to Burgendy, white leather would realy set it off.My Sons is a Brown Blob with BigYob Wheels,absolute horror in my eyes,but hes happy. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How is the resale value of Trailblazers? On Thai used car websites I see 2013 models for $1.5m and 2012 models for under a million?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well then I guess how good the resale value is depends on whether you're buying or selling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How is the resale value of Trailblazers? On Thai used car websites I see 2013 models for $1.5m and 2012 models for under a million?? It's a Chev, so it will depreciate fast, but then slow down. After 5 or 6 years the overall depreciation will be within 5-10% of an A-List brand though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxter Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Trailblazers out, check out the new Jeep Cheroke. That's my ride shortly just as soon as I figure out how to get it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Trailblazers out, check out the new Jeep Cherokee. That's my ride shortly just as soon as I figure out how to get it here. Good luck with that - 'The Farangs never-ending import desire of a wet-dream'! But if you're lucky enough to pull it off, have 2 vehicles shipped, (Burgundy red with beige interior or Black with beige interior), because I would love to own one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxter Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Yep, they are getting awesome write-ups in the UK. Perfect for Thailand. Here's an idea, I've been planning a drive from the UK to Thailand. We could both purchase our vehicles in the UK, plan our route (which will be the hardest part) to Thailand and get the vehicles through the boarder with the correct contacts in place. Job done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Yep, they are getting awesome write-ups in the UK. Perfect for Thailand. Here's an idea, I've been planning a drive from the UK to Thailand. We could both purchase our vehicles in the UK, plan our route (which will be the hardest part) to Thailand and get the vehicles through the boarder with the correct contacts in place. Job done! Sounds like a plan to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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