BrianCR Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I didn't realize stupidity was congenital. RIP Thanks for posting the most sensible comment on this site. From what i understand from the other postings a Westerner can pick up a prostitute (who wants his money), get drunk everyday, associate with someone who is a child (a chlld of 18 can still be in high school), pay for alcoholic parties and finally drink himself to death and, it's all the fault of the Thai and Thailand? The posts sound like the usual mixture of "I lead such a low life I hate it here'" - "I must have a target on my back, the prostitutes won't leave me alone" accompanied by racism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) I didn't realize stupidity was congenital. RIP Please all you Germans and English that love to drink beer. Give it up For New Year's I hate to see such fools died so please stop drinking. I am afraid he will not be the last to die from drinking beer. Oh how I pray for these poor souls. Next time any of us see a drunk German take away his beer so he can live. You haven't been to Oktoberfest, have you? seems to be no problem there. German beer is clean and safe to drink. The fuss you get here is almost poison There was a beer here long time ago, called Amarit, gone long time because of International command of poisoning the beer. The beers you drink here is poison, not in spectacular big amounts, but as designed by the global corporations. Go to FL and buy imported beer, original, clean and everyone should be alright. I think this could be a case against the corporate globalists and it's contaminated foods and drinks, Edited December 4, 2011 by elcent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boggle Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Simple. Ban Beer in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Surely it should be congenital disorder or malfunction, a disease is something you catch by viral or bacterial infection. Yes some diseases can be transmitted from mother to child in the womb, but I know of none such which preclude alcohol. Was he by any chance German but ethnic Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Simple. Ban Beer in Thailand. According to My Muslim contacts, it's a soft drink. The King of beer was King Herod. Hop, Malt and water only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalard Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Why would a 47 yr old tourists confide in an 18 yr old Thai child about his congenital disease? Seems a little odd but hey. I am sure the Thai authorities will make inquiries with his immeadiate family and his treating doctor back home to support the autopsy findings, very straight forward normal proceedure that any police force will carry out, as it is Step 1 in this type of investigation. Maybe he was under the influence of alcohol???!!!??? Anyway as a 47 year old he can do what he likes. As long as he died happy, who really cares. RIP Mr Saurkraut His family will have to deal with any investigation irregularities??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I didn't realize stupidity was congenital. RIP Please all you Germans and English that love to drink beer. Give it up For New Year's I hate to see such fools died so please stop drinking. I am afraid he will not be the last to die from drinking beer. Oh how I pray for these poor souls. Next time any of us see a drunk German take away his beer so he can live. You haven't been to Oktoberfest, have you? seems to be no problem there. German beer is clean and safe to drink. The fuss you get here is almost poison There was a beer here long time ago, called Amarit, gone long time because of International command of poisoning the beer. The beers you drink here is poison, not in spectacular big amounts, but as designed by the global corporations. Go to FL and buy imported beer, original, clean and everyone should be alright. I think this could be a case against the corporate globalists and it's contaminated foods and drinks, Yes I have and saw the many sick drunks Please read this which from the http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,708174,00.html Der Speegel which is Germany You should be careful what you post Stop covering up for Germany Drunks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I didn't realize stupidity was congenital. RIP Please all you Germans and English that love to drink beer. Give it up For New Year's I hate to see such fools died so please stop drinking. I am afraid he will not be the last to die from drinking beer. Oh how I pray for these poor souls. Next time any of us see a drunk German take away his beer so he can live. You haven't been to Oktoberfest, have you? seems to be no problem there. German beer is clean and safe to drink. The fuss you get here is almost poison There was a beer here long time ago, called Amarit, gone long time because of International command of poisoning the beer. The beers you drink here is poison, not in spectacular big amounts, but as designed by the global corporations. Go to FL and buy imported beer, original, clean and everyone should be alright. I think this could be a case against the corporate globalists and it's contaminated foods and drinks, Yes I have and saw the many sick drunks Please read this which from the http://www.spiegel.d...,708174,00.html Der Speegel which is Germany You should be careful what you post Stop covering up for Germany Drunks still, it's a soft drink. Nothing mentioned there that people died from drinking beer. It it is without chemicals and it's safe to drink. Try to drink blueberry juice pure in that amount and see what happens. I'm afraid you can't report back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 A Thai girl says a farang told her that he has congenital disease which may cause his death. In what language did he make this amazing announcement to her ? German,English Thai ? How do you explain the word congenital in german or thai language? Why was she socialising with a short stay farang who she probably couldnt verbally communicate with.? Where did he meet her so quickly and conveniently? I think its a case of the cops wanting to get back to the station to finish their card game. No interregation required. Ive lived in Bangkok 12 years and i am still alive.I wonder if thats because i dont socialise all that much with kind and caring Thai's... Lots of big assumptions and very judgmental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 A lot of people are assuming that he was in some sort of a relationship with the teenager and that he was drunk. I can see nothing in the original post that leads to or even suggests either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxyz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 right,,, it was the beer,,, not like sex with an 18 yo couldn't cause a heart attack, if he truly had heart issues,,, had this been the other way and the thai girl was dead, the farang would be held until he can prove his innocence and pay bribe no doubt,,, also as has been noted, the news is lousy with dead farangs, always no crime involved,,, does anybody know or read of a thai being held for the death of a farang,,, didn't think so,,, when people know they can get away with murder, then chances are good more farangs will end up dead,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn2005 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 The first few posters have it all figured out so no need to speculate about possibilities. They are very smart these guys donot know the victim or his companion but have it down pat. Well done... I watch holiday makers and residents drink on antibiotics and against advice from doctors on a regular basis, I couldn't express congenital disease in Thai but could certainly get the concept across! Knowing my luck if I tried for congenital disease I'd end up in the papers misquoted as having an STD! Then, when you try and communicate you have an STD, they would probably think you were a STUD! 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 As for the rest of your questions are you sure you are living in Thailand.:jap: Are you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 The first few posters have it all figured out so no need to speculate about possibilities. They are very smart these guys donot know the victim or his companion but have it down pat. So, from what we read, a bloke who shouldn't drink, drinks a lot of booze then unfortunately dies. Misadventure eh? But wait: he was an expat and it happened in Thailand - and he was with a Thai woman! So the TV members of the Sherlock Holmes Society decide that he must have been killed by the evil Thais, because that's what Thais do to innocent farangs. Case solved - arrest the witch! +1 maybe she weighs less than a duck, ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Really too bad for a 47 year old man. It is a terrible thing anytime, but certainly I have found the suddenness of a friend's or acquaintance's death quite a shock. Best wishes to his family & friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 just out of curio, on average how many farang per mounth, dept thailand deceased . RIP :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxyz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 all the non drinking germans are already dead,,, it is natural selection,,, evolution,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I am impressed that an 18 year old Thai girl understands the concept and meaning of "congenital disease." Sounds like the police and coroner, if there is such a person around, putting words in her mouth and/or the reporter's notepad. yada, yada, yada... who said that a Thai girl used the expression "congenital"? the German must have told her "problem since i was born" and the journalist used "congenital". as simple as that and no need for the usual anti-Thai conspiracies! Even if this were so, a non-native English speaking German telling a non-English speaking 18 year old Thai girl "a problem since I am born", and the non-English speaking Thai scribe "substituting" "congenital", is very unprofessional journalism. Especially in the circumstances of "death." - In other words the 18 year old Thai girl and the journalist are manufacturing a defense for the girl, prior to an autopsy. Indicating that they felt a motivation to do this, since there was no other logical explanation. This way they believe that she is covered even he died from an overdose combined with alcohol, and even if the overdose was administered by the 18 year old Thai girl. The Thai press to the rescue. Sure, it's anti-Thai procedures and critical of the lack of due diligence and ethical procedures. The Thais should be challenged regularly yada, yada , yada, for their despicable practices of "covering up" for themselves and not respecting the law when it comes to defending themselves in the case of a foreign victim. Shame on the Thais. What goes around comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Even if this were so, a non-native English speaking German telling a non-English speaking 18 year old Thai girl "a problem since I am born", and the non-English speaking Thai scribe "substituting" "congenital", is very unprofessional journalism. unprofessional and drawn from thin air are your assumptions. being a "non-native English speaking German" i claim that, given a few minutes, i am able to explain to a non-english speaking Thai of any gender that i have a health problem since birth (if that is the case). moreover, nowhere was mentioned that the Thai girl doesn't speak any English and the non-English "scribe" who wrote the article for the "Nation" does not exactly sound "non-English speaking" to me. but, as already mentioned, i'm just a non-native English speaking German... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 all the non drinking germans are already dead,,, it is natural selection,,, evolution,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Even if this were so, a non-native English speaking German telling a non-English speaking 18 year old Thai girl "a problem since I am born", and the non-English speaking Thai scribe "substituting" "congenital", is very unprofessional journalism. unprofessional and drawn from thin air are your assumptions. being a "non-native English speaking German" i claim that, given a few minutes, i am able to explain to a non-english speaking Thai of any gender that i have a health problem since birth (if that is the case). moreover, nowhere was mentioned that the Thai girl doesn't speak any English and the non-English "scribe" who wrote the article for the "Nation" does not exactly sound "non-English speaking" to me. but, as already mentioned, i'm just a non-native English speaking German... Your reply reflects both your light English skills as well as your lack of understanding of Thais. When you claim that you are able to explain "in a few minutes" that you have a health problem since birth to a "Thai of any gender", this augurs poorly for your assurance that "she" being 18 or any gender or age, has "interpreted your few minutes explanation" correctly. They rarely, if ever do notwithstanding any level of English skill. Especially an advanced characterization such as "congenital." The 'scribe" masquerading as a journalist doing the transcription in The Nation exhibited deficient skills at reporting an incident of this nature. Any professional reporter or a cub would quote what the girl said and not change the context of what she said , such as "congenital." I think we can all be assured that the 18 year old girl didn't use the term "congenital." Maybe the police did, but that's doubtful. This points out the danger of inept reporting. As it now stands, or when/if this ever reaches an investigation, this becomes very cloudy as to who actually said what about what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 When you claim that you are able to explain "in a few minutes" that you have a health problem since birth to a "Thai of any gender", this augurs poorly for your assurance.... yada yada yada yakety is no substitute for logical arguments. case closed... Bailiff next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am impressed that an 18 year old Thai girl understands the concept and meaning of "congenital disease." Sounds like the police and coroner, if there is such a person around, putting words in her mouth and/or the reporter's notepad. Just the normal Thai bashers who live in THAI-land. Pay no mind to these mindless educated fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I take it the Thai police have detained all who were present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Everybody seems to be forgetting one very important fact: sometimes people just "drop dead", their heart fails/stops and that's it; lights out. Alcohol or no alcohol, disease or no disease... maybe that's what happened to Mr 47-year-old-man-with-18-year-old-girl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombkk Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Even if this were so, a non-native English speaking German telling a non-English speaking 18 year old Thai girl "a problem since I am born", and the non-English speaking Thai scribe "substituting" "congenital", is very unprofessional journalism. unprofessional and drawn from thin air are your assumptions. being a "non-native English speaking German" i claim that, given a few minutes, i am able to explain to a non-english speaking Thai of any gender that i have a health problem since birth (if that is the case). moreover, nowhere was mentioned that the Thai girl doesn't speak any English and the non-English "scribe" who wrote the article for the "Nation" does not exactly sound "non-English speaking" to me. but, as already mentioned, i'm just a non-native English speaking German... Your reply reflects both your light English skills as well as your lack of understanding of Thais. When you claim that you are able to explain "in a few minutes" that you have a health problem since birth to a "Thai of any gender", this augurs poorly for your assurance that "she" being 18 or any gender or age, has "interpreted your few minutes explanation" correctly. They rarely, if ever do notwithstanding any level of English skill. Especially an advanced characterization such as "congenital." The 'scribe" masquerading as a journalist doing the transcription in The Nation exhibited deficient skills at reporting an incident of this nature. Any professional reporter or a cub would quote what the girl said and not change the context of what she said , such as "congenital." I think we can all be assured that the 18 year old girl didn't use the term "congenital." Maybe the police did, but that's doubtful. This points out the danger of inept reporting. As it now stands, or when/if this ever reaches an investigation, this becomes very cloudy as to who actually said what about what. Not sure what kind of cub you are referring to, but the young lady most likely used the term "rook prajam tua", as was mentioned earlier. Given that we are in Thailand, I would assume that the young woman, the police and the reporter spoke Thai together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombkk Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 right,,, it was the beer,,, not like sex with an 18 yo couldn't cause a heart attack, if he truly had heart issues,,, Not sure where you got this from. Sex is not mentioned the article at all, neither is there any mentioning of a heart issue. Please share your source with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newermonkey Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) The first few posters have it all figured out so no need to speculate about possibilities. They are very smart these guys donot know the victim or his companion but have it down pat. Well done... I watch holiday makers and residents drink on antibiotics and against advice from doctors on a regular basis, I couldn't express congenital disease in Thai but could certainly get the concept across! Knowing my luck if I tried for congenital disease I'd end up in the papers misquoted as having an STD! Drinking whilst on antibiotics has no adverse effect on the efficiency of the treatment. ITS AN URBAN LEGEND, there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. But of course if you drink to excess an puke up the meds then that will make the drugs ineffective!!!! There are many genetic & congenital diseases that will be fatal to someone who drinks too much. So it would be interesting to see a follow up in TV on this and many other articles. Doctor Newer Monkey Edited December 5, 2011 by newermonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) It's not Thai bashing, it's perfectly natural to question any statements coming from any Thai source when it comes to situations like this. Their media and police are corrupt, inept and ultimately self-serving. Even the Thais don't trust their own media and Police, and they should know. Edited December 5, 2011 by Oberkommando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) It's not Thai bashing, it's perfectly natural to question any statements coming from any Thai source when it comes to situations like this. Their media and police are corrupt, inept and ultimately self-serving. Even the Thais don't trust their own media and Police, and they should know. Creepy avatar. Edited December 5, 2011 by bigbamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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