Speaker Forwards Impeachment Motion Against 8 Pheu Thai Party MPs

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Speaker forwards impeachment notice

The Nation

Senate Speaker Thiradej Meepian yesterday forwarded an impeachment motion against eight Pheu Thai Party MPs to the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) to begin a graft probe.

Thiradej said the motion, which was sponsored by Democrat Party MPs, had been verified and sent to the NACC to conduct an investigation.

Democrat MPs led by Sathit Pitutecha filed the petition, which seeks the removal of Pol General Pracha Promnok, Karun Hosakul, Surachart Thienthong, Worachai Hema, Thanusak Lek-uthai, Vicharn Minchainant, Jirayu Huangsap and Jarupong Ruangsuwan.

The Senate scheduled Pheu Thai minister Anudith Nakornthap and anti-graft agency member Pakdee Pothisiri to testify in the impeachment case on January 9.

Anudith, when he was still an opposition MP, petitioned for Pakdee's impeachment claiming he unfairly investigated a computer-procurement project at the Public Health Ministry under Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan.

During a Senate meeting yesterday, the meeting agreed that Anudith and Pakdee would each give 30-minute statements to the panel.

Meanwhile, seven panel members would be allowed to question Anudith and Pakdee.

Interested senators can apply for panel membership until January 6. Voting will be used if more than seven senators apply.

Anudith, now the information and Communications technology minister, was one of Sudarat's close aides.

-- The Nation 2011-12-27

[whybother]

Are there two separate stories here? One being the impeachment for the 8 MPs and one being for the computer procurement.

[VoterPower]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

Edited February 1, 2012 by metisdead
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[Bakseedaa]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

[geriatrickid]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

You do not make your point effectively because you have allowed your personal bias to overwhelm your comment;

1."It is said, thy bought most of those votes" How does making a false claim support your argument? It is said? By whom? Detractors of the government that's who. Perhaps there were voting irregularities. Do you honestly expect a rational person to accept that only the PTP was responsible for such activity? Voting irregularities occur with all parties in Thailand, including the Democrats. In any case, the results were sufficiently transparent and honest that none of the international monitors objected.

2. PTP won 48.41% of the popular vote. Your Democrats. won 35.1% of the popular vote.

3. Your emphasis upon a TV meeting indicates that you look for dramatic performance over substance. This isn't about providing a theatrical performance or scoring points in debate. It is about guiding a nation through the aftermath of the worst flooding in decades if not a century. It is about restoring peace in a nation ripped apart because of a military coup, political manipulations by the triumverate of malfeasance (military dictatorship/democrats/wealthy power brokers) and the most extensive censorship ever imposed by any Thai government courtesy of Mr. Abhisit.

The only opinion that counts is that of the electorate at the ballot box. Despite you and others fervent hopes, the government did not collapse during the floods, nor was there a coup. The government has retained popular support and with time will most likely be able to achieve an even greater popular vote result next election whilst the Democrats wilt.

[OzMick]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

Ignoring the so-called "landslide" should an electoral win allow as much corruption/graft/theft as the winners can handle?

Of course, the solution is obvious, change the constitution so as to get rid of the Corruption Commission. Right?

[phiphidon]

Could someone more versed in "Nationspeak" please translate the OP for me?

[chuang]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

The dems are going to bring down a democratic elected goverment by hooks or by crooks..it's their style...sour and lousy losers..

[chuang]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

You do not make your point effectively because you have allowed your personal bias to overwhelm your comment;

1."It is said, thy bought most of those votes" How does making a false claim support your argument? It is said? By whom? Detractors of the government that's who. Perhaps there were voting irregularities. Do you honestly expect a rational person to accept that only the PTP was responsible for such activity? Voting irregularities occur with all parties in Thailand, including the Democrats. In any case, the results were sufficiently transparent and honest that none of the international monitors objected.

2. PTP won 48.41% of the popular vote. Your Democrats. won 35.1% of the popular vote.

3. Your emphasis upon a TV meeting indicates that you look for dramatic performance over substance. This isn't about providing a theatrical performance or scoring points in debate. It is about guiding a nation through the aftermath of the worst flooding in decades if not a century. It is about restoring peace in a nation ripped apart because of a military coup, political manipulations by the triumverate of malfeasance (military dictatorship/democrats/wealthy power brokers) and the most extensive censorship ever imposed by any Thai government courtesy of Mr. Abhisit.

The only opinion that counts is that of the electorate at the ballot box. Despite you and others fervent hopes, the government did not collapse during the floods, nor was there a coup. The government has retained popular support and with time will most likely be able to achieve an even greater popular vote result next election whilst the Democrats wilt.

You hit Bak right on the head.....

[garrfeild]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

[VoterPower]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

[whybother]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

When did that happen?

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

The dems are going to bring down a democratic elected goverment by hooks or by crooks..it's their style...sour and lousy losers..

Funny I always thought it was the oppositions job to keep any elected government honest

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

Lost or just didn't lie as well as the nely elected government did

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

Some people love to re_write history

Their was only a caretaker Gov in power at the time of the Coup

New elections at this time had not been held

[valerian]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

You do not make your point effectively because you have allowed your personal bias to overwhelm your comment;

1."It is said, thy bought most of those votes" How does making a false claim support your argument? It is said? By whom? Detractors of the government that's who. Perhaps there were voting irregularities. Do you honestly expect a rational person to accept that only the PTP was responsible for such activity? Voting irregularities occur with all parties in Thailand, including the Democrats. In any case, the results were sufficiently transparent and honest that none of the international monitors objected.

2. PTP won 48.41% of the popular vote. Your Democrats. won 35.1% of the popular vote.

3. Your emphasis upon a TV meeting indicates that you look for dramatic performance over substance. This isn't about providing a theatrical performance or scoring points in debate. It is about guiding a nation through the aftermath of the worst flooding in decades if not a century. It is about restoring peace in a nation ripped apart because of a military coup, political manipulations by the triumverate of malfeasance (military dictatorship/democrats/wealthy power brokers) and the most extensive censorship ever imposed by any Thai government courtesy of Mr. Abhisit.

The only opinion that counts is that of the electorate at the ballot box. Despite you and others fervent hopes, the government did not collapse during the floods, nor was there a coup. The government has retained popular support and with time will most likely be able to achieve an even greater popular vote result next election whilst the Democrats wilt.

กระต่ายตื่นตูม [Meaning: When you are excited, you cannot see the real issue.]

Edited December 27, 2011 by valerian

[valerian]

geriatrickid,

Just out of curiosity.. how many weeks have you been to Thailand?

Edited December 27, 2011 by valerian

[VoterPower]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

Some people love to re_write history

Their was only a caretaker Gov in power at the time of the Coup

New elections at this time had not been held

Eh, "only a caretaker government", at " the time of the coup"

Do you really understand what you are saying there

[VoterPower]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

Lost or just didn't lie as well as the nely elected government did

or you maybe

[Siam Simon]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

When did that happen?

The government that was brokered by the military making politicians offers they couldn't refuse at Anupong's residence in late 2008. Did you miss it?

[whybother]

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

When did that happen?

The government that was brokered by the military making politicians offers they couldn't refuse at Anupong's residence in late 2008. Did you miss it?

Since when has 2008 been referred to as a military coup?

[Siam Simon]

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

When did that happen?

The government that was brokered by the military making politicians offers they couldn't refuse at Anupong's residence in late 2008. Did you miss it?

Since when has 2008 been referred to as a military coup?

It's referred to as a silent military coup because the military did it through coercion of selected politicians, rather than sending tanks onto the streets as they had done in 2006.

[whybother]

Since when has 2008 been referred to as a military coup?

It's referred to as a silent military coup because the military did it through coercion of selected politicians, rather than sending tanks onto the streets as they had done in 2006.

I thought it was referred to as a Judicial coup.

[Siam Simon]

Since when has 2008 been referred to as a military coup?

It's referred to as a silent military coup because the military did it through coercion of selected politicians, rather than sending tanks onto the streets as they had done in 2006.

I thought it was referred to as a Judicial coup.

No, the judicial coup refers to the actions by the judiciary in prematurely disbanding the PPP, which was leading the government at the time of it's disbandment. The silent military coup was the next stage of the process.

[VoterPower]

Its obvious in't it.

No military, no coup

[waza]

Since when has 2008 been referred to as a military coup?

It's referred to as a silent military coup because the military did it through coercion of selected politicians, rather than sending tanks onto the streets as they had done in 2006.

I thought it was referred to as a Judicial coup.

No, the judicial coup refers to the actions by the judiciary in prematurely disbanding the PPP, which was leading the government at the time of it's disbandment. The silent military coup was the next stage of the process.

But wasnt the PPP the first of 3 Thaskin governments disbanded for blatant vote, politician and political party buying, ect. All without a general in sight. Then Mr. Abhisit was elected by a majority of sitting members. Sound very democratic and follows the rule of law, Same as the impeachment motion by Senate Speaker Thiradej Meepian which was sponsored by Democrat Party MPs is proper, democratic and according to the rule of law.

[Siam Simon]

But wasnt the PPP the first of 3 Thaskin governments disbanded for blatant vote, politician and political party buying, ect. All without a general in sight. Then Mr. Abhisit was elected by a majority of sitting members. Sound very democratic and follows the rule of law, Same as the impeachment motion by Senate Speaker Thiradej Meepian which was sponsored by Democrat Party MPs is proper, democratic and according to the rule of law.

Oh dear. The facts have been explained to you. They are fully verifiable. How long are you going to continue breaking the forum rule that you edited into that post a while back? And, more importantly, why are you doing so?

[VoterPower]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

[whybother]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

What history are they rewriting? Which illegal coups were against an elected government?

[Reasonableman]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

In a true representative democracy, which represents all its citizens, not just some parts of Society, the function of an Opposition is to keep the Government honest. It is an essential regulatory function. Without an effective Opposition, the Government has few checks and balances, and can become autocratic, benign or otherwise. Thailand clearly needs an effective Government AND an effective Opposition. Get used to it.