Speaker Forwards Impeachment Motion Against 8 Pheu Thai Party MPs

[VoterPower]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

What history are they rewriting? Which illegal coups were against an elected government?

See what I mean, but the electors saw through it.

[VoterPower]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

In a true representative democracy, which represents all its citizens, not just some parts of Society, the function of an Opposition is to keep the Government honest. It is an essential regulatory function. Without an effective Opposition, the Government has few checks and balances, and can become autocratic, benign or otherwise. Thailand clearly needs an effective Government AND an effective Opposition. Get used to it.

Agreed Sir ,

And the function of the Military?

[Reasonableman]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

BTW, how does one become an "Advanced Member" with 31 posts? Curious.

[Reasonableman]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

In a true representative democracy, which represents all its citizens, not just some parts of Society, the function of an Opposition is to keep the Government honest. It is an essential regulatory function. Without an effective Opposition, the Government has few checks and balances, and can become autocratic, benign or otherwise. Thailand clearly needs an effective Government AND an effective Opposition. Get used to it.

Agreed Sir ,

And the function of the Military?

National security. Function of the police?

[whybother]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

What history are they rewriting? Which illegal coups were against an elected government?

See what I mean, but the electors saw through it.

I don't see what you mean. Please explain.

The electors didn't see through anything.

[VoterPower]

I'll tell you why, they lost the election, and are trying to re-write history.

And after earlier illegal coups against the democratically elected governments it was all swept under the carpet.

But not this time, as the technological advances has laid bare how thailand really operates, to the watching world audience.

The people kicked them out

What history are they rewriting? Which illegal coups were against an elected government?

See what I mean, but the electors saw through it.

I don't see what you mean. Please explain.

The electors didn't see through anything.

Ask yourself why the electors did not vote for the junta dem alliance?

[Siam Simon]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

In a true representative democracy, which represents all its citizens, not just some parts of Society, the function of an Opposition is to keep the Government honest. It is an essential regulatory function. Without an effective Opposition, the Government has few checks and balances, and can become autocratic, benign or otherwise. Thailand clearly needs an effective Government AND an effective Opposition. Get used to it.

Agreed Sir ,

And the function of the Military?

National security. Function of the police?

"National security"

Good one

[Siam Simon]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

In a true representative democracy, which represents all its citizens, not just some parts of Society, the function of an Opposition is to keep the Government honest. It is an essential regulatory function. Without an effective Opposition, the Government has few checks and balances, and can become autocratic, benign or otherwise. Thailand clearly needs an effective Government AND an effective Opposition. Get used to it.

Agreed Sir ,

And the function of the Military?

National security. Function of the police?

"Function of the police?"

Good question. And one that's almost impossible to answer. Whilst the armed forces are just plain sinister, the police appear to be a monumental <snip>-up.

Edited February 1, 2012 by metisdead

[whybother]

Ask yourself why the electors did not vote for the junta dem alliance?

Because the PTP offered more populist policies, along with "I will make you rich in 6 months" from their leader.

So:

What history are they rewriting? Which illegal coups were against an elected government?

[Buchholz]

Constitution Court Receives Flood Relief Package Corruption Case

The Constitution Court received a request from the House speaker to rule on the status of eight Pheu Thai MPs for their alleged involvement in a flood-relief package corruption case.

The court will decide whether to accept the case.

Yesterday, Spokesperson for the Constitution Court, Pimol Thampitakpong, reported that on January 24, the court received a request from the House Speaker to rule on whether eight Pheu Thai MPs allegedly involved in a flood-relief package corruption case should be dismissed from their posts.

The court will now decide whether to accept the case.

According to the report, House Speaker Somsak Kiatsuranont signed his name on the petition from Democrat MPs and submitted it to the Constitution Court.

The Democrat Party claims that eight of Pheu Thai MPs have violated Article 265 and 266 of the Charter by interfering with the procurement procedure of flood-relief packages.

The Pheu Thai MPs implicated in the case are Pracha Promnok, Karun Hosakul, Suchart Thianthong, Worachai Hema, Tanusak Lek-uthai, Wicharn Meechaianant, Jirayu Huangsap, and Jarupong Ruangsuwan.

-- Tan Network 2012-01-26

[Buchholz]

The Constitution Court today accepted the case against the 8 Pheu Thai Party MP's for impeachment.

[tlansford]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

40 parties competing...

popular vote 48%

seats won 53%

Landslide = yes

" I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders..."

During elections, often. After elections, never in the US, France, or Germany.

[waza]

Well in 6 months this government hasnt achieve Thaskin's plan A (home by daughters wedding), so a cabinet reshuffle and on to plan B. But eight Pheu Thai MPs are facing dismissal for their alleged involvement in a flood-relief package corruption case. The support base of redshirts are maneuvering for a greater share of the spoils. Yingluck is loosing the PR battle and is increasingly her party is distancing itself. Yep sounds like a Thaskin government to me, corupt, inept and shooting itself in the foot.

Edited February 1, 2012 by waza

[ThaiOats]

I'm wondering how many of the TV posters understands Thai and actually take the time to watch Parliament sessions. I'm going to make the assumption that many don't but continue to attack or defend the current government on this forum even though the reasons and logic from the speakers themselves aren't understood. I'm also going to make another assumption that many of the posters here have more education than majority of the Thais and are also more knowledgeable when it comes to "the rest of the world". That being said, I've no idea why anyone would agree that this government is performing efficiently, led by a PM who is obviously a puppet. I'll agree that this government is "democratically elected" - used quotations because the meanings differ from one person to another - but is that all that Thailand should care about? That it shouldn't care what the government does as long as it's not the military junta? Seriously, go learn Thai, watch the Parliament sessions and listen to the words that are coming out from the politicians you are proponents or opponents of. IMHO this government is total fail in transparency and ethics. I'm not even going to bring up the Democrats here because it's useless trying to pursuade people to think that they are any better.

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

Opposition parties are not paid to sit on chairs and do nothing for the country

This is already being done by the Government

The job of the opposition is to keep the elected government honest

This is what they are paid for

Only making members of Parliment responsible for their actions, will see Thailand get out of its currupt ways

I guess this is not what you want ????

[ozzieman05]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

My silly friend

don't you know

she can not take her mobile to big brother onto the tv set

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

The dems are going to bring down a democratic elected goverment by hooks or by crooks..it's their style...sour and lousy losers..

Sorry wrong its not their style

Its their JOB

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

If you spent time looking at history

Their was no government in power during the Coup, only caretakers

How some people love to rewrite the history books

[ozzieman05]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

When did that happen?

I reality it never did

But some people live in a fantasy world of their own

[Moruya]

There was no government at the time of the "coup" - caretaker or otherwise. Thaksin had resigned months before and gone on "Holiday"

Edited February 2, 2012 by metisdead
Itallic font removed.

[scorecard]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

40 parties competing...

popular vote 48%

seats won 53%

Landslide = yes

" I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders..."

During elections, often. After elections, never in the US, France, or Germany.

You can quote all the statistics you want. In the final analysis they don't have much meaning. PT and their red leaders, the paymaster knew very well that they could win many many votes with handouts (many of which have in reality not been delivered) and promises to keep pork and egg prices down. Vote buying also rampant.

And in terms of long-term policies to step by step achieve real and sustained change to gain a good quality of life for the majority of all Thais - nothing, no policies whatever, zero, not mentioned, not even one word.

Any discussion by the PT 'mob' during the election campaign about building democracy and real action to gain fair and equal justice for all? Zero, not one word.

And before you say it, are they the only 'mob' involved in vote buying? No!

Edited February 2, 2012 by scorecard

[sparebox2]

"unfairly investigated a computer-procurement project"

There is a saying in Thai/Chinese. "Real gold are not afraid of (being tested with) fire"

If you have nothing to hind, why worry about any investigations at all?

[tlansford]

When are the dems going to grow up and stop all this playgroung bickering.

They lost the election bigstyle in a landslide.

Get over it, man up.

As if Thaksin's mob didn't do the same when they were in opposition! Thai politics

Its sad ain't it when the democratically elected government becomes "the opposition", due to an illegal military junta coup

If you spent time looking at history

Their was no government in power during the Coup, only caretakers

How some people love to rewrite the history books

and elections scheduled in 4 weeks. The timing was not an accident?

[tlansford]

Thailand needs a good opposition, otherwise there would be no point in having a government.. checks and balance is needed in every democratic country, and although PTP did win this election, it is said that they bought most of those votes and 37% of all votes is not really a landslide... and, by the way they are performing it seems they will never win again.. Yinluck runs scared every time she gets asked an awkward question... why will she not do a head to head on live TV with Abhisit.. I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders... why will she not take up the offer..?

40 parties competing...

popular vote 48%

seats won 53%

Landslide = yes

" I think that in every democratic country in this world, the leaders of both rival parties go live on TV to allow the voters to watch the performance of these leaders..."

During elections, often. After elections, never in the US, France, or Germany.

You can quote all the statistics you want. In the final analysis they don't have much meaning. PT and their red leaders, the paymaster knew very well that they could win many many votes with handouts (many of which have in reality not been delivered) and promises to keep pork and egg prices down. Vote buying also rampant.

And in terms of long-term policies to step by step achieve real and sustained change to gain a good quality of life for the majority of all Thais - nothing, no policies whatever, zero, not mentioned, not even one word.

Any discussion by the PT 'mob' during the election campaign about building democracy and real action to gain fair and equal justice for all? Zero, not one word.

And before you say it, are they the only 'mob' involved in vote buying? No!

"You can quote all the statistics you want. In the final analysis they don't have much meaning. "

of course they have meaning. They won with a 22 point margin.