Dsi To Crack Down On Illegal Foreign-Run Businesses

[TAWP]

Well, there should be a notice that anyone that sells their house back home and buys a new one here, together with a car and mc, and puts it all in 'not their name' because 'it is easier' is setting themselves up for losing it. And after that it seems like they have less than an airplane ticket of worth to their name and one a plastic-bag over the head and a zip-lock around their hands can bring them their happiness back again...

[philw]

Well, there should be a notice that anyone that sells their house back home and buys a new one here, together with a car and mc, and puts it all in 'not their name' because 'it is easier' is setting themselves up for losing it. And after that it seems like they have less than an airplane ticket of worth to their name and one a plastic-bag over the head and a zip-lock around their hands can bring them their happiness back again...

Your compassion and understanding of the problems people face is beyond munificence , oh, Great One.

Wonderful is your generous heart that sees the mistakes and not so mistakes that happen in life.

Edited January 1, 2012 by philw

[englishinsiam]

Foreigners should go by my rhetoric. I will never buy anything in Thailand I am not prepared to lose. Currently have a car and bike in my wifes name and we will buy a family house this year.

That will be in my wifes and sons name. I know we are string but same as when I married my English wife I travelled light when I left her I always knew I could start again.

If the worst happens here I will do the same again. No use crying over spilt milk.

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[TAWP]

Well, there should be a notice that anyone that sells their house back home and buys a new one here, together with a car and mc, and puts it all in 'not their name' because 'it is easier' is setting themselves up for losing it. And after that it seems like they have less than an airplane ticket of worth to their name and one a plastic-bag over the head and a zip-lock around their hands can bring them their happiness back again...

Your compassion and understanding of the problems people face is beyond munificence , oh, Great One.

Wonderful is your generous heart that sees the mistakes and not so mistakes that happen in life.

So you oppose people being notified of the issue of foreigners losing everything they have - or what are you trying to say?

[ericthai]

Please tell me what the country will be like without Foreigners and their money?....We are but a minority of the thousands of illegal businesses that are being run

Where do you get this we sh!t? My business is 100% legal.

You guys bitching about having all these problems living here, if you don't like it don't stay here. I know I have no issues with visa, and ownership, etc. You want to own a place to live buy a condo. Just think about how hard or even if a Thai can get a visa to your country, odds are most wont be able to. You should be thinking that you're lucky to be able to get visa to stay here.

[moskito]

I think, that in our home countries Thais should be given the same treatment as we receive in their country.

That means, for example, here in New Zealand, Thais cannot own land, only the house that it is built upon. You cannot own, operate or take part in farming or agricultural activities whatsoever.

Nor can it own more than 49% of a business, or work in non-skills shortage work classes, no matter what visa they have unless employed as a foreign specialist. When employed, they should be given salary which in many cases is enough for only self-sustenance.

It must be made more difficult for Thai nationals to open bank accounts, and when they do given non-interest bearing accounts so that maximum profit is made from them.

Most of all, our governments should be openly skeptical about Thai people, discriminating between themselves and "foreign criminals".

I really hate to rant like this, but openly discriminating against people trying to improve the country and gain a bit of a profit for a nice lifestyle in Thailand is not the answer. We don't send our money home to our countries in most cases, but Thais working in our countries do, 80% guaranteed! Consider this..

you are absolutely right and i double that 100%

furthermore Thaipeople in other countries should not give ANY social welfare or medical supply like they get in Germany for example. If they asking the government in Germany they get all they need. A minimum of 380.-Euro a month (about 16000.-Baht) paid rent for an appartment or room up to max 380.-Euro (16000.-Baht) too. FREE medical treatment in ALL hospitals and at all doctors, doesnt matter what happend to them, from teeth pain to heart surgery etc....EVERYTHING free, except a ticket back home.... what happend to a farang here? any kind of help if you loose your job, health or your home?

WE invest our money here and dont send it back home, like hundred thousands of Thais living in foreign countries do every single month....money btw. wich made Thailand rich too, not only the families it was sent too......but we are what we are....just some f..kc..g longnose wich has to be treated like they deserved to be treated.

Am I correct in my understanding that you are saying Germany treats them the same as Germans if they go to the Government for help.

I think you will find the same here if you go to the Thai government for help they will treat you the same as a Thai citizen.

Do you really believe the money coming back to the families is making them rich and how is Thailand getting rich from it?

Mate, I have no idea how long you are living in LoS but obviously you joking or you really have no clue.... First answer...if it was a question is YES, we have nearly more foreigners like germans in germany now...and I am counting the foreigners with a german passport here too...thanks to the lost WW and the MultiKulti Politics they made after it.

Second answer: you must be kidding me (((: treating you same like a Thai here? forget it if you think a doctor will do anything for you, BEFORE he is seeing some cash or a proper CreditCard.... There are kind of Job Centers for Thai People here if you are not aware of this and there is a certain medical treatment, even for Thais wich doesnt have much or no money at all.....but not for foreigners and for sure not for farangs.

THIRD and your last question: What do you think the Thaifamilies did with the money the Thais overseas sent to them? Not every family is addicted to whiskey or gambling, so in many Thaifamilys it is totally normal to save the money or buying things like LAND, HOUSE, CAR, MOTOBIKE, Gold etc etc...hope I dont have to explain economy and how buying has its influence on the market have a great evening

[bigbamboo]

Well, there should be a notice that anyone that sells their house back home and buys a new one here, together with a car and mc, and puts it all in 'not their name' because 'it is easier' is setting themselves up for losing it. And after that it seems like they have less than an airplane ticket of worth to their name and one a plastic-bag over the head and a zip-lock around their hands can bring them their happiness back again...

If you are married Thai law is the same as most Western countries when it comes to divorce...... you split assets and debts accrued during the marriage fifty-fifty. The only proviso is that a foreigner cannot take possession of any landed property and so any such would have to be either bought out or sold. Not sure if the same applies to common law relationships. As TIT problems may occur if one party (ie the farang) is the one suing for divorce!

[KhunHay]

Bad foreigners! Illegal activities and extorting people? They should be sent to Bangkok Hilton for taking away the potential ability of Thai making money from these activities and providing unfair competition to Thai people. Meanwhile, some people working in Jatujak market continue to sell animals; selling of drugs at Sukhumwit and running the jetski tour for tourists. Hmmm....

Only if they will put in more effort in cutting off bribery and corruption first and educate those lazy Thai man who does not work but drink everyday to get their butt off from home.

[moskito]

So are you saying farang doesn't mean guava and all the Thais that call a guava a farang are mistaken and that all the Thais that have told me it is about the white flesh why we get called it are wrong ?

Absolutely - but belive your Thaifriends, guess they will tell you a lot more true stories about their country......ehmmm, btw, if you met them next

time, just ask them who Buddha was and how his full name was....if only one out of 5 Thais says Siddarta Gautama Buddha I buy you a drink of Guava or Farang juice next time.... I am a little bit to lazy atm but feel free to GOOGLE for FARANG....i bet you get some hits saying it comes from

the European Franken .... a former country between Germany and Frankreich....what you like to call France .... so its for sure not easy to get something out of Franks or Franken or Farang... are you USAmerican? ...always a bit hard to talk with you about History then ((((:

[osiboy]

_{farang does not come from guava, there are many fruits in thailand with the added "farang", "manfarang " for example means potatoe, .... fruits with farang in the name usually means they are not originaly grown in thailand, they were brought here maily by the french, the name for france in thai is "farangset", and this became the general name for "faragners" and similarly foreigners, same as anything in liquid form is called nam, so we have all been labeled from their name for the french ,or its a mix of foreign and french}

[TAWP]

_{farang does not come from guava, there are many fruits in thailand with the added "farang", "manfarang " for example means potatoe, .... fruits with farang in the name usually means they are not originaly grown in thailand, they were brought here maily by the french,}

Correct, potatoe is 'man-farang', which could be translated and used as a term meaning 'fun foreigner', too, for those with Thai friends that like word-games.

And now we are officially far off-topic.

Edited January 1, 2012 by TAWP

[bigbamboo]

_{farang does not come from guava, there are many fruits in thailand with the added "farang", "manfarang " for example means potatoe, .... fruits with farang in the name usually means they are not originaly grown in thailand, they were brought here maily by the french, the name for france in thai is "farangset", and this became the general name for "faragners" and similarly foreigners, same as anything in liquid form is called nam, so we have all been labeled from their name for the french ,or its a mix of foreign and french}

I would concur with Osiboy here with farang deriving from French and anything described as farang denoting it was foreign to the local people of this part of Asia. It is popularly used to decribe people who are of caucasian appearance.

Edited January 1, 2012 by bigbamboo

[Oberkommando]

The word 'farang' is most likely Arabic in origin.

http://baheyeldin.com/linguistics/thai-word-farang-variations-in-other-languages-arabic-origin.html

http://tinamue.blogspot.com/2010/07/origin-of-thai-word-farang.html

[bigbamboo]

The word 'farang' is most likely Arabic in origin.

http://baheyeldin.co...bic-origin.html

http://tinamue.blogs...ord-farang.html

Yep, as already mentioned earlier I think the Arabic for a Frank which came to be applied to all peoples from the largely Frankish controlled western Europe. Nice to see an etymological discussion on TV so early in the New Year!

[Felt 35]

Everyone starts up every time a story like this comes up. Think people over the coming years are in for a shock. This is not really a law issue, it's a tax issue. People Thai and farang are not paying their taxes, as the computers get better at putting the bits together more and more dodgy businesses will come to light. This company nominee thing for house ownership is a prime example. How can some unseen nominee who probably has signed hundreds of share agreements and on paper owns millions of Baht in shares not get notice by the tax man for ever. Some of these house must get sold yet the nominee pays no tax on the profits. Would you be able to get away with it in your home country,no and Thailand will catch up with the west in it's tax collecting systems. Jim.

Think you just nailed it.

The Revenue Dept here are getting better and better and it won't be long before tax compliance requirements cause a few sleepless nights to those who thought they were immune.

This system is under progress and some foreign countries are already preparing their citizens living here for a new tax structure in Thailand to avoid a back fire. There are said that any foreigner living here more than 180 days a year will have to pay tax and the different visa classes will have no effect on time in country as a new computerized tax system will oversee actual time in country. I personally believe this will be up and going before the Asean Community 2015

[DickFarang]

Never seen Chinese prostitutes (except Thai-Chinese ones), but lots of Russian hookers.

He could start to clean up the Russian maffia.

[DickFarang]

_{farang does not come from guava, there are many fruits in thailand with the added "farang", "manfarang " for example means potatoe, .... fruits with farang in the name usually means they are not originaly grown in thailand, they were brought here maily by the french, the name for france in thai is "farangset", and this became the general name for "faragners" and similarly foreigners, same as anything in liquid form is called nam, so we have all been labeled from their name for the french ,or its a mix of foreign and french}

Not by the French, but by the Portuguese.

[sirchai]

Didn't Thaksin bring some Chinese aeeh guys to this country? Or was it his family? I'm irritated now....

[sirchai]

Never seen Chinese prostitutes (except Thai-Chinese ones), but lots of Russian hookers.

He could start to clean up the Russian maffia.

U-Tapao is open for all of them. Welcome to Thailand, pretty soon and you'll have the Euro as you've already got the bucks....

[arthurwait]

Thanks for all the replies on the origin of farang.

I'm sure every Thai that says farang when they see a guava and calls a white foreigner a farang has researched this thoroughly and the research is his or hers meaning behind their thought.

[witsawakorn]

I think, that in our home countries Thais should be given the same treatment as we receive in their country.

That means, for example, here in New Zealand, Thais cannot own land, only the house that it is built upon. You cannot own, operate or take part in farming or agricultural activities whatsoever.

Nor can it own more than 49% of a business, or work in non-skills shortage work classes, no matter what visa they have unless employed as a foreign specialist. When employed, they should be given salary which in many cases is enough for only self-sustenance.

It must be made more difficult for Thai nationals to open bank accounts, and when they do given non-interest bearing accounts so that maximum profit is made from them.

Most of all, our governments should be openly skeptical about Thai people, discriminating between themselves and "foreign criminals".

I really hate to rant like this, but openly discriminating against people trying to improve the country and gain a bit of a profit for a nice lifestyle in Thailand is not the answer. We don't send our money home to our countries in most cases, but Thais working in our countries do, 80% guaranteed! Consider this..

If they are only targeting people who are breaking the law then they are discriminating against law breakers so what?. Perhaps you are one of the people who bought houses/land using the bogus company trick hence are feeling a bit nervous when they see a post like this

[Nisa]

I think, that in our home countries Thais should be given the same treatment as we receive in their country.

That means, for example, here in New Zealand, Thais cannot own land, only the house that it is built upon. You cannot own, operate or take part in farming or agricultural activities whatsoever.

Nor can it own more than 49% of a business, or work in non-skills shortage work classes, no matter what visa they have unless employed as a foreign specialist. When employed, they should be given salary which in many cases is enough for only self-sustenance.

It must be made more difficult for Thai nationals to open bank accounts, and when they do given non-interest bearing accounts so that maximum profit is made from them.

Most of all, our governments should be openly skeptical about Thai people, discriminating between themselves and "foreign criminals".

I really hate to rant like this, but openly discriminating against people trying to improve the country and gain a bit of a profit for a nice lifestyle in Thailand is not the answer. We don't send our money home to our countries in most cases, but Thais working in our countries do, 80% guaranteed! Consider this..

If they are only targeting people who are breaking the law then they are discriminating against law breakers so what?. Perhaps you are one of the people who bought houses/land using the bogus company trick hence are feeling a bit nervous when they see a post like this

A Thai's view of living in NZ ... http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1065.html

[dartvidar]

I think, that in our home countries Thais should be given the same treatment as we receive in their country.

That means, for example, here in New Zealand, Thais cannot own land, only the house that it is built upon. You cannot own, operate or take part in farming or agricultural activities whatsoever.

Nor can it own more than 49% of a business, or work in non-skills shortage work classes, no matter what visa they have unless employed as a foreign specialist. When employed, they should be given salary which in many cases is enough for only self-sustenance.

It must be made more difficult for Thai nationals to open bank accounts, and when they do given non-interest bearing accounts so that maximum profit is made from them.

Most of all, our governments should be openly skeptical about Thai people, discriminating between themselves and "foreign criminals".

I really hate to rant like this, but openly discriminating against people trying to improve the country and gain a bit of a profit for a nice lifestyle in Thailand is not the answer. We don't send our money home to our countries in most cases, but Thais working in our countries do, 80% guaranteed! Consider this..

I tried what you say home in my Country. I was working as a Taxi driver and I got a Thai woman as customer. I drive her to her destination and the Taxi meter was showing 20$. I told her the trip cost 60$. She answered me that the meter only showing 20$ so that’s what she should pay. I told her 20$ is farang price, Thai, Asians and black people has to pay 60$. She got very angry and wanted to report me to police, I told her no problem we can go to police station if you want but they will only arrest you or fine you for refusing to pay your Taxi bill. She got even angrier, and she told me I can not treat her like that because she was an Asian. I told her this is the way your people treat me in Thailand, so why shouldn’t we treat you in the same way here. Then I told her this is just a joke, but how did you feel to be treated different because you are Thai? She then admits she was getting very angry and felt bad. I told her to tell her friends home about this episode and how she was feeling. I think she learn from this episode.

[TAWP]

Thanks for all the replies on the origin of farang.

I'm sure every Thai that says farang when they see a guava and calls a white foreigner a farang has researched this thoroughly and the research is his or hers meaning behind their thought.

Not sure if that was an attempt ti discard the posts above about the origin of the word, but you are highly wrong that any random Thai has any idea where the word comes from or has done any research.

[elshaheen]

I love to see a group of Thai chasing their tails. Thai's can't handle the competition and are not trained how to really operate a business. Look at the foreign owned and operated establishments in Pattaya. Russian, European, North American and etc. Seem to do a much better job then Thai.

When foreigners want to get something, they often choose a Western owned business, why. More trust and confidence. As with Thai, Thai will screw anyone from the top to the bottom of the caste system. They have no respect.

So, let's here it for the western owned businesses. Give them a thumbs up.

[Heng]

One can almost see and hear those jittery shaky mouse clicks.

[baboon]

I think, that in our home countries Thais should be given the same treatment as we receive in their country.

That means, for example, here in New Zealand, Thais cannot own land, only the house that it is built upon. You cannot own, operate or take part in farming or agricultural activities whatsoever.

Nor can it own more than 49% of a business, or work in non-skills shortage work classes, no matter what visa they have unless employed as a foreign specialist. When employed, they should be given salary which in many cases is enough for only self-sustenance.

It must be made more difficult for Thai nationals to open bank accounts, and when they do given non-interest bearing accounts so that maximum profit is made from them.

Most of all, our governments should be openly skeptical about Thai people, discriminating between themselves and "foreign criminals".

I really hate to rant like this, but openly discriminating against people trying to improve the country and gain a bit of a profit for a nice lifestyle in Thailand is not the answer. We don't send our money home to our countries in most cases, but Thais working in our countries do, 80% guaranteed! Consider this..

I tried what you say home in my Country. I was working as a Taxi driver and I got a Thai woman as customer. I drive her to her destination and the Taxi meter was showing 20$. I told her the trip cost 60$. She answered me that the meter only showing 20$ so that’s what she should pay. I told her 20$ is farang price, Thai, Asians and black people has to pay 60$. She got very angry and wanted to report me to police, I told her no problem we can go to police station if you want but they will only arrest you or fine you for refusing to pay your Taxi bill. She got even angrier, and she told me I can not treat her like that because she was an Asian. I told her this is the way your people treat me in Thailand, so why shouldn’t we treat you in the same way here. Then I told her this is just a joke, but how did you feel to be treated different because you are Thai? She then admits she was getting very angry and felt bad. I told her to tell her friends home about this episode and how she was feeling. I think she learn from this episode.

I have 1000 Baht that says she learned nothing from her experience other than applauding each and every crackdown on foreigners here. That just seems to be the way it is, unfortunately.

[virtualtraveller]

Would those foreigners include Montenegrans. That's right crack down on all the foreigners running their businesses through a Thai proxy when the whole dam_n country is run by an alien through a Thai who has absolutely no control. Oh the irony of Thailand!

[craigt3365]

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[spidermike007]

At a time when the government should be cracking down on corrupt customs officials, incompetent and corrupt policemen throughout the country (especially in Samui), and arresting corrupt government officials, it is focusing instead on foreign run businesses. The Thai government reminds me of the fundamentalist Christians back in the US. Rather than focus on improving themselves as people, and doing the inner work required to make that improvement, all of their attention is pointed outward to the outside world. That is where all of the problems exist. I am not to blame. No problems exist within me. That is the attitude of the Thai government. They behave like a 13 year old child. At a time when they should be making foreign business ownership, property ownership, and visa regulations easier, to stimulate the economy, what do they do? The exact opposite? Kudos to Shinawatra for always getting it wrong. That is an impressive record, when you are batting 1000.