Iran Envoy Claims 'Zionist Regime' Behind Bangkok Blasts

[Steely Dan]

Here is yet more reason to believe Iran and their proxies can not be trusted, namely their associations with Al Qaeda are far closer than most people realize, which is yet another reason they can't be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

http://townhall.com/...iranian_wedding

The Bush administration waged what it called a Global War on Terrorism. Yet against Iran, the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism, no serious actions were ever taken. President Obama is waging what he calls a “war against al Qaeda and its affiliates.” Yet he and his advisors are reluctant to articulate what has become indisputable: Iran and al Qaeda are affiliated.

The article trying to connect Al Qaeda to Iran was written by Cliff May, here are some choice bits of info on him, courtesy, Wiki.

"May supports the use of 'enhanced interrogation techniques', other than waterboarding, against those captured by the United States in what he calls the War on Terror so long as they are used as a "last resort". He views them as fundamentally different from 'torture'. He also opposes regarding those captured as either criminal defendants or prisoners of war.^["

^"During the beginning of the CIA leak scandal, May wrote in September 2003 that an ex-administration official had told him that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent,"...yes he outed a CIA agent!

"On December 31, 2009, May suggested releasing uncharged prisoners from Guantanamo Bay to Yemen, then sending "missiles to strike the baggage-claim area".

Quality link Steely !

You should really calm down and reflect on what the Iranian regime sanctions in light of the habitual use of PressTV adopted by sundry apologistas. He who lives in glass houses shouldn't throw sejeal stones.

P.S I've no idea who Ann whateverhername is or any of the other characters you mentioned are. If I happen to agree with what they wrote it doesn't make me subscribe to all their views unseen, but I think you know that but just feel like wearing a halo of indignation.

Edited February 25, 2012 by Steely Dan

[cdnvic]

Steely and Jim, you two either debate the issues and stop taking cheap shots at each other or you both will be sidelined for a couple weeks.

No more warnings.

[Steely Dan]

You should really calm down and reflect on what the Iranian regime sanctions in light of the habitual use of PressTV adopted by sundry apologistas. He who lives in glass houses shouldn't throw sejeal stones.

P.S I've no idea who Ann whateverhername is or any of the other characters you mentioned are. If I happen to agree with what they wrote it doesn't make me subscribe to all their views unseen, but I think you know that but just feel like wearing a halo of indignation.

Steely. Perhaps ypu should do a few youtube searches on Ann Coulter. I am amazed you dont know of her if you are American.

Cdnvic

Noted!

Jim, I come from Leeds. Now as the mods asked lets get back on topic. P.S Scott Sorry I didn't read your post before replying or I wouldn't have done so.

[Scott]

A post containing only a quote has been deleted.

[Pakboong]

Look at the sources that claim Alamdemajad(sp) made the statement regarding "wiping Israel off the Map",

IF the translation that the conspiracy buffs keep refering to is not 100% accurate, it is pretty close,and considering all the other similar things that this loon has said, why nitpick about just one statement - unless trying skirt the truth of his intentions?

Apparently it matters a great deal if people would risk world war 3 over it.

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

This is the exact literal translation from Farsi to English. Yes it matters a great deal.

The complete transcript exists in many places and is no secret. You may want it to say/mean something else but it doesn't. I am not a fan of this guy and I am not apologizing for him. I will only say that I have considered his words when they make big news only because I am interested in whether or not there will be a WW3 and who will be fighting whom. I would naturally assume that would be the case with many people who would otherwise be interested in such matters.

His choice of words can be quite interesting and I have seen some of his speech writer's notes on choice of context and what not. Again, I am neither agreeing with or apologizing for him. Many who seriously do not like the guy, and there are many reasons for that, take a "for him" or "against him" pose and I don't really fall completely on either side of those two choices.

There was a great deal of explanation, for example, about his choice of words regarding the body count from the Holocaust. His speech writers used the world "Myth" and went on to explain the context to be one in which he used the definition "a commonly accepted belief, loosely based in fact." Example given was Noah's Ark. still, I am not apologizing for him and his ilk. There were a couple of pages why this particular context was used. I am interested for other obvious reasons other than that of pro-Israeli posters. I get the impression that many of you think this is just not possible.

[chrisinth]

Here is yet more reason to believe Iran and their proxies can not be trusted, namely their associations with Al Qaeda are far closer than most people realize, which is yet another reason they can't be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

http://townhall.com/...iranian_wedding

The Bush administration waged what it called a Global War on Terrorism. Yet against Iran, the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism, no serious actions were ever taken. President Obama is waging what he calls a “war against al Qaeda and its affiliates.” Yet he and his advisors are reluctant to articulate what has become indisputable: Iran and al Qaeda are affiliated.

Steely

For presenting us with a link for a site in which Ann Coulter is a regular contributor you should be thrown off this site for good!. You have presented a typical US fear mongering tactict. "If the bombings in India , Georgia and Thailand are not helping to sway public opinion, I know, lets connect Al Quaeda to Iran!" .

You are normally to be found on one particular side of a fence as most of us are, but this is too much, and to be honest you deserve yourself to be called a tinfoil hat wearing conspirator, as you have called so many yourself. Al Qaeda were/are a SAUDI terrorist group (the people that you and others remind us that hate the Iranians).

Ann Coulter is nothing more than a despicable, unintelligent, low life and ANY site that supports her does not deserve to be read. It explains a lot about your posts, now that I realize you are frequenting sites such as the one you have linked to. Are you soooo desperate for a war that you would spout of that garbage, Shame on you!

Well that just about puts an end to freedom of choice then doesn't it?

The link is freely accessable on the internet, the poster made it available to the members of TV. As I understand it, this forum is about discussing points of view from its posters, whether right or wrong.

Because a writer has a different angle on a story, it is their viewpoint. To judge by yourself what people should or should not read displays an arrogance that is distasteful.

Every story has three sides, left, right and the truth. Let people make up their own minds.

[Scott]

I note that this topic has veered massively off-topic. A number of posts have been deleted. The topic is about the Iranian Envoy....bombings in Bangkok.

I strongly suggest you think before you post. I strongly think you re-read the OP and the rules. I suggest you not respond to nonsense from other posters. They are not the topic.

The next off-topic poster is going to get a holiday.

[Scott]

An off-topic post has been deleted as well as a reply.

One suspension given.

Again, please re-read the OP and stick to the topic.

[Scott]

More posts deleted. More posters on holiday.

Again, re-read the OP, stick to the topic and stop replying to other off-topic posts.

[Scott]

Read the OP and then respond with comments that relate to it. The fact that people have decided that gays, the Iraq war, GW Bush and a whole variety of other issues is relevant, does not make them relevant to this topic.

The off-topic posts have gone on long enough. Yes, it's confusing. But enough warnings have been posted and ignored.

Your post would have been deleted because it was either off-topic or it replied or quoted an off-topic post.