nurofiend Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 though the credibility of that report, story, yarn...whatever, is pretty much non-existent imo That would be "non-existing credibilty" with an "interesting part" ? do you really, really, need it to be explained to you? ok "that's an interesting part... though the credibility of that report is pretty much non-existent" comprende? Sorry. It's just that I fail to find "non-credible" statements "interesting". Explains a few things though. what few things does it explain? i bet you can't even explain what it explains... you cannot find something in an article you are dubious about, interesting? that's a paradox in your world is it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. The so called "common people" up-rise when they are in power ???? Actually this may be a start of something new more than history repeating itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Give the guy a break. All he's doing is ensuring the next coup won't be bloodless. You always send your weakest troops in 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EvilDrSomkid Posted February 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have no idea where the writers of this article got their intel from, but I sure hope it is all BS. Our business does not need another disruption like the red shirt protesets or new floods. We are in the entertainment business, we don't need more trouble dammit. However, it is highly likely that new trouble is coming. If it is one thing I have learned in my brief time here is that NOTHING is as it seems. There are so many nasty deals and arrangements going on behind the screens. One gets a whiff of this all the time. One thing I am sure of, nothing happens in this country unless someone makes a stupid amount of money out of it. The greed and selfinterest in this country is astounding. As in any country, the extremely rich and powerful will do anything, to the point of destroying the country, just to preserve their power. This country still has a feudal mentality. It is run by a few very powerful families. We are witnessing a power struggle between these families. This is one of the reasons why westerners are not wanted here. We do not want to play their childish games. If westerners were allowed to really owns things here, it would mean a disruption of the status quo. Batten down the hatches and ride the storm... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. This has absolutely nothing to do with democracy, in fact, just the opposite. Remember, this is Thaksin, not some benevolent patriach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 what few things does it explain? i bet you can't even explain what it explains... you cannot find something in an article you are dubious about, interesting? that's a paradox in your world is it... It explains to me some of the peprlexing views that you put forward. BTW you have now upgraded the credibility from "pretty much non-existant" to dubious, which appears suspiciously like an attempt to weasel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ianf Posted February 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. An absolutely incredible post!!!!! Do some people have no idea at all about what the red movement represents? Such naievity is astounding! The reds fought for democracy. Really? Do we now have a democratic government in Thailand? I am sorry chaps, this is about anti-democracy and the struggle of one man to become the supreme dictator. Nothing more. Nothing less. Edited February 18, 2012 by ianf 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. This has absolutely nothing to do with democracy, in fact, just the opposite. Remember, this is Thaksin, not some benevolent patriach. Yep. Isn't it funny, or rather sad, that almost always when states or groups refer to themselves as "democratic" or fighting dictatorship, that they are the exact opposite? Case in point PAD. They had some very undemocratic ideas. Case in point UDD/DAAD: Also have some very strange ideas about what is democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 what few things does it explain? i bet you can't even explain what it explains... you cannot find something in an article you are dubious about, interesting? that's a paradox in your world is it... It explains to me some of the peprlexing views that you put forward. BTW you have now upgraded the credibility from "pretty much non-existant" to dubious, which appears suspiciously like an attempt to weasel. show me one perplexing view then? just one. back up what you spew out! no attempt to weasel or attempt at upgrading credibility.. i can find something interesting in an article that's completely untrue too. you do know what interesting means i hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. This has absolutely nothing to do with democracy, in fact, just the opposite. Remember, this is Thaksin, not some benevolent patriach. Yep. Isn't it funny, or rather sad, that almost always when states or groups refer to themselves as "democratic" or fighting dictatorship, that they are the exact opposite? Case in point PAD. They had some very undemocratic ideas. Case in point UDD/DAAD: Also have some very strange ideas about what is democracy. How about Democrat party??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have no idea where the writers of this article got their intel from, but I sure hope it is all BS. Our business does not need another disruption like the red shirt protesets or new floods. We are in the entertainment business, we don't need more trouble dammit. You own a bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) I have no idea where the writers of this article got their intel from, but I sure hope it is all BS. Our business does not need another disruption like the red shirt protesets or new floods. We are in the entertainment business, we don't need more trouble dammit. You own a bar? No. Event management. Edited February 18, 2012 by EvilDrSomkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wouldn't put much weight on the "facts" on that article, but a large Red Shirt mass rally would be the perfect (coincidentally of course!) time for Thaksin to simply drop by at Suvharnabumi. There would be a conveniently large group of fanatics at hand to stand behind him and justice. Justice of course highly unlikely to come from the government as I don't think they'll lift a finger to enforce court rulings against their boss; so that would leave the army to have a go at apprehending Thaksin. There a Ready-Made mob comes very handy, specially if they just happen to be heavily armed, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. There would appear to be a missing element here in Thailand. There doesn't appear to be any righteousness or any demands that serve the interests of more than a few people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 So, basicly, Thaksin is planning on overthrowing his sister's government? And all, just so he can get back in the catbird's seat. What a guy!!! Sounds a lot like Bangkok will be burning again. Maybe we should hope the puppet is unable to implement any flood control. We may need the water to quench Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabla1 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 C'mon, all he wants is too come back to his homeland, with big hugs and sorry from every one, poor guy, must be lonely out there in Emerite land, actually,he has enough money to make a new replica of Thailand, right next to Disneyland or some where, probably get more visitors too...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animatic Posted February 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Thaksin is pathologically set on taking full control partly because that was his original aim before being deposed, after his term expired, but also because of the revenge motive. No revenge is complete unless you take MORE than they took from you. He sees them as having taken what he hadn't yet gotten control of. So he has a war room to track coup makers. This is just claptrap to keep pushing the 'eminent coup button' in his Red Followers. Preaching to the choir. Things have slowed to a crawl for Thaksins personal plans, the Red Troupes are getting restless, and he needs to keep feeding them red meat to make them stay on point till his next move. It also explains the Amsterdam-lead online Perception Management moves we can see lately. Clearly they are moving to make a bundle on Water Retention and Spillway purchases through their friends, shills and proxies, hence the meeting with real-estate moguls, in secret last week. But before this cash cow of kick-backs can be spread around, he must still keep his street branch placated, and angry. Letting them become complacent isn't an option. Letting them imagine they will be the front line defense against a coup, makes them imagine they are empowered and important. Edited February 18, 2012 by animatic 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaikahuna Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thaksin, who lives in self-exile in the United Arab Emirates, ordered that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, his younger sister, be kept in the dark about the war room's creation so that she may honestly deny its existence if questioned by the press. Yes lets keep it a secret ..... there is no war room .... its only a rumor . ordered that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, his younger sister, be kept in the dark... She is in the dark about everything anyway....the point is????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Yai Posted February 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2012 The more he meddles, the more it becomes obvious that allowing him back would probably not be the best move for healing the country. Short ,sweet and very much to the point !!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why do red shirts need to hold more demonstrations? PT are in pon power, a a Shiniwatra is in powier? Are they just bored and have nothing better to do? Does sponge bob square pants just like to read his name in prinit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricardo Posted February 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) History repeats itself. We have seen such thing happen again and again all over the world, and this won't be the last. The up-raising of the common people. To struggle for a more open and free democratic society. Last happen in USSR, Romania, Yogoslavia, East Timore, Tibet, Egypt, Iraq, etc We congratulate then if the up-raising is a success. We condem then if the up-raising fails. "The up-raising (sic) of the common people." If the Red-Shirts really are an uprising of the common people, why would they need a secret "war room" commanded by the Defense-Minister, to "direct" their planned demonstrations ? "History repeats itself" Indeed it does, and this would not be the first dictator, to come to power through the manipulation of the poor. "To struggle for a more open and free democratic society" Than the freely-elected PTP-led government, which has already performed such heroic deeds on their behalf, over the past several months ? Establishing a universal 300B national minimum-wage, distributing millions of notepad-computers to students, making health-care free for all, paying guaranteed-prices for rice-farmers, achieving reconciliation without revenge, cutting fuel-prices, their record is astounding ! Edited February 18, 2012 by Ricardo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 This must be why the PM was visiting that hotel. She was being kept in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Another conspiracy theory spun out of some innocuous decision to perhaps have a new canteen for defense ministry staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Rumour has it the 24th of June 2012 will be the day to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why do red shirts need to hold more demonstrations? PT are in pon power, a a Shiniwatra is in powier? Are they just bored and have nothing better to do? Does sponge bob square pants just like to read his name in prinit? at first sight of this news the same thoughts came to my mind. Probably, he is getting bored too much. He wants to come back as he loves his country so much But protest for what? ....against what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillowbee Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) I just seriously don't get this. Why are the journo's giving this criminal any media attention at all. What is this guy doing giving orders and stating that Thailands PM must be kept in the dark? He seems to be doing a practice run for the position he ultimately wants. The media is allowing this man to become self appointed President!!! He needs stopping/silencing quickly. ... the media gives the criminal Thaksin air time and print because he makes them money ... the Thai media is has nothing to do with journalistic integrity ... Thais are all about the money! ... and Thai greed is more powerful than their Buddha. Edited February 18, 2012 by swillowbee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thaksin, who lives in self-exile in the United Arab Emirates, ordered that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, his younger sister, be kept in the dark about the war room's creation so that she may honestly deny its existence if questioned by the press. Yes lets keep it a secret ..... there is no war room .... its only a rumor . Dont care what they do the rich will rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 though the credibility of that report, story, yarn...whatever, is pretty much non-existent imo Well, it didn't come from the Nation. That lifts the credibility a few notches. I had to go back to check if it was a Notthenation piece. What future for satire in Thailand now, when the boundary of the ridiculous has been pushed so far back? SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I just seriously don't get this. Why are the journo's giving this criminal any media attention at all. What is this guy doing giving orders and stating that Thailands PM must be kept in the dark? He seems to be doing a practice run for the position he ultimately wants. The media is allowing this man to become self appointed President!!! He needs stopping/silencing quickly. ... the media gives the criminal Thaksin air time and print because he makes them money ... the Thai media is has nothing to do with journalistic integrity ... Thais are all about the money! ... and Thai greed is more powerful than their Buddha. Not sure if Thai media or journalists are the problem here. The article appears in a publication owned by Sondhi Limithongkul and is written by two US retirees with a disclaimer " the views expressed here are their own" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 though the credibility of that report, story, yarn...whatever, is pretty much non-existent imo Well, it didn't come from the Nation. That lifts the credibility a few notches. Asia Times Online was created in 1999 and sees itself as the successor to Sondhi Limthongkul's* Asia Times that closed in 1997. Who is talking about credibility ? * Sondhi Limthongkul is the leader of the right-wing People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) Asia Times on-line may consider itself to be the successor to an original Asia Times newspaper... But the on-line version has absolutely nothing to do with Sondhi..... you need to take a job with The Nation... or stop believing your wife..! Why always involving women ? Do you have mommy issues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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