I Will Stop Smoke With Quomem / Zyban

[dr_Pat_Pong]

A box of Chang is a great sedative

[h90]

Dr better "Red Horse" drank 4 bottles yesterday, don't know why this beer knocks you out that strong.....

I think 5 is the LD50 value

A box of Chang is a great sedative 

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[Tywais]

A box of Chang is a great sedative 

Get some exercise with the bg of your choice. Guaranteed to make you sleep after. Disadvantage - may want to light one up when done.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

that ' after ' was soooooooo nice

[Abandon]

And it is just a one time battle, after it, it gets relative easy to continue.

One hint: If your wife smokes a lot and you stop, you'll find out that she smells terrible......

Ahh but H90 - You forgot to mention that when you quit smoking and your wife tells you you still smell ... you cannot blame it on the ciggies anymore

hnaaa hnaaa hnaaa

[Dawn]

Good luck George!

I've been off the cigs for 4 months now. I didn't really smoke a great deal - 2-3 a day at work and a box of 10 when I was in the pub on a weekend.

But because of this I classed myself as social smoker and put off giving up for years and years as I talked myself into thinking that if I did it in moderation then there was no real reason to give up completely. But the amount I smoked gradually crept up and I found myself reaching for them when things got stressful.

One thing I will say is that you really have to want to give up and you really do need a reason. Me and my husband are trying for our first baby and I gave up the day we started trying. And I fully intend never to smoke 1 more cig in my life as I don't want my kids to see me smoking and I want to be around to see them grow up.

My Grandma died last week of a stroke (on my birthday too ) and again, this really made me think and I'm so glad I've finally made the decision to quit completely. Life is too short and I don't want to make it any shorter! Strokes also run in our family so it's a definate no-no for me.

I've always been a bit of a gym rat but could never pick up my speed/times on the treadmill due to the cigs. Now I'm flying (so to speak!) and have come on so much over the last 4 months. If you can find the time to start doing some cardio on a regular basis then belive me it will help and you'll feel so much better. If you have a craving, cardio takes this away.

Once again, best of luck and try to stay focused and remember why you are doing it. I'm sure you'll do fine and you'll feel great in a couple of months

[peter991]

This is the 21st century and we all KNOW now that smoking is not the 'cool' thing to do, so why do most of us smoke. Perhaps we could run a poll on that.

Me - I am addicted to the horrible little cancer sticks. I have tried nicotine gum (just gave me a stomach ache), Zyban (almost worked) and I have just started on patches.

So far, I have cut back from 25 a day or 3 or 4. The urge to light us is always there. I have been told that nicotine is the hardest drug in the world to kick.

I am with you all the way, george. I had a heart attack nearly 3 years ago and I managed to quit for 5 days after it. I must quit ASAP or I won't be around for too much longer. I am 52 now so I really have to try harder.

Peter

[george]

After nearly a week with this heavy medicine, you might want to have a status report?

Check my blog now:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?au...howblog&mid=128

[Jai Dee]

Isn't it great to have so much encouragement?

Go George... Go!!!

[Kerryd]

Isn't it great to have so much encouragement?

Go George... Go!!!

No news for awhile on this. How's it going ?

I've quit a couple of times. Once I weaned myself off cigs using a very simple method. Every time I had a smoke, I wrote the time down in a notepad. Before lighting up another, I would check the time. For example, if I had a smoke at 05:03 am, and another at 05:18 (15 minutes later), I would hold off on lighting up again until at least 15 minutes had passed. Say the next one was at 05:35 (17 minutes later), I would then hold off until at least 05:52.

At the end of the day I would tally up how many cigarettes I had that day. The next day I would start over again. For example, if I was at 32 minutes between smokes at the end of the previous day, I would force myself to wait to go at least 33 minutes before having my second smoke on the new day. At the end of that day I would tally up the total again and see how much I had cut down.

It took awhile, and I got to the point where I was down to 4 cigarettes a day. When the last smoke was gone from the last pack, that was it. Unfortunately, factors at work and other matters saw me start up again.

I then tried the Zyban method. Knowing how addicted I was, I didn't just go with the pills though. I slapped on the patch as well, and after two weeks, I quit cold turkey. I had Nicorette gum just in case. After awhile, I started swapping out the Nicorette gum with some of that Dentyne stuff (especially the cinnamon flavoured stuff). No side effects from the pills, nor any from using the patch and gum at the same time.

I went 38 days without smoking. Was doing great (more or less), but then I broke down. I was at a mandatory military function (known as a Mess Dinner). I had used my last Zyban and last patch the day before. Lots of alcohol at the dinner, but no smoking at the tables. During the first "break" I went with friends to the smoking area, but didn't partake. A few drinks later, we had another break. All my buddies were smoking. I was a little hammered. Next thing I know I was borrowing "just one" from a buddy. By the end of the night, I was racing around looking for a store that sold cigarettes

If it hadn't been for that dinner, I may have been able to hold out longer (until some such other event happened I suppose).

Now I have to try again. It may be even harder to do here, but I think I may have a very cute incentive to help me this time.

[ding]

Hope you're hanging in there George. Smoking can't help if when you have type2 diabetes.

I used to smoke several cigars a day, and quit several years ago. I still miss it, especially when I smell one burning. Truly evil stuf, that tobacco.

Most people I know who quit and stayed quit just stopped. Like a change in psyche, became non-smokers -no matter what.

[xyz]

I used Zyban to stop smoking several years ago and haven't smoked since. It's considered an anti-depressant. It takes about 5 years for your lungs to clear after you stop. It's been more than five years for me and I can really feel the difference. Good Luck.

[Tippaporn]

Well, this might be a refrain of Kerry's question but has George refrained from smoking???

[Arnold-F]

I'm trying to find a source to purchase Quomem(GalaxoSmithKline) from Thailand.

My supplier seems not to be on the internet any longer.

Would you or anyone be able to direct me to an online source in Thailand?

Thanks,

Arnold

[email protected]

Time to stop smoke - again....

I have been a heavy smoker for some 20 years. I was smoke free for 2 years, but started again just a month ago. Stupid me.

I rapidly started smoking 3 packs (60 cigs a day). No good! Morning cough and bad smell. My aim is to be smoke free again by December 31, 2005. New Year - no cigs!

My help will be the revolutionary medicine called Quomem/Zyban...

Read more in my blog, today is Day 1:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/blog/george

[Tippaporn]

The only help I can offer is to you to . Other than that, I'm pretty useless. Just ask around.

[The Real Mandrake]

I quit smoking 6 months ago. I was heavy smoker for 15 years, smoking filterless cigarettes when I lived in Paris, cheap Chinese Marlboro Reds when I lived in Hong Kong, roll ups in New Zealand, B+H Golds in The UK, Krong Thips in Surin... you get the picture.

I just woke up one day 6 months ago and I didn't smoke any more. I can't explain it. I think I got scared about dying before my time and tired of reduced health. I didn't really have any cravings, I just somehow rejected smoking and the whole notion of it, cursing myself for damaging my body for so many years.

Your body goes through huge upheaval for years after stopping. I've gone days without sleep, suffered depression, anxiety, a constant background nausia... all caused by my body getting used to the lack of toxic input from cigarettes. However, nothing will make me start smoking again and take away this feeling of cleanliness and health that is coming back to me.

6 years and 6 months more, and my body will have rebuilt itself

Cold turkey... the only way to quit

[Tippaporn]

Totally agree with you, RM. Of course, I'd condone any method that works. Nice personal account, though.

And to

[tuky]

Totally agree with you, RM. Of course, I'd condone any method that works. Nice personal account, though.

And to

George, did it work?

I have a chest infection at the moment and spend my sleeping time coughing and composing my death note to my daughters. I can't imagine a life without smokes, I started when I was 13 because it was cool

The biggest thing for me about stopping is that a life without them scares the heck outta me.

[Wolfie]

I have a chest infection at the moment and spend my sleeping time coughing and composing my death note to my daughters. I can't imagine a life without smokes, I started when I was 13 because it was cool

The biggest thing for me about stopping is that a life without them scares the heck outta me.

I know the feeling, i managed to give up last Songkran for a whopping 7 months, it felt great! i dont remember the exact reasons, but one night drunk and upset in the pub i took a puff on the evil weed, that was the start of a very slippery slope downwards and now im back onto 2+ packs a day. Now i've got the typical smokers cough back, wake up i nthe middle of the night with coughing fits, have to have a good hack i nthe mornings to clear away some of the crap... I want to quit again, i really dont like this feeling!

[george]

Totally agree with you, RM. Of course, I'd condone any method that works. Nice personal account, though.

And to

George, did it work?

I have a chest infection at the moment and spend my sleeping time coughing and composing my death note to my daughters. I can't imagine a life without smokes, I started when I was 13 because it was cool

The biggest thing for me about stopping is that a life without them scares the heck outta me.

Yes, it worked, but I had serious sleeping problems for over a month. I am smoke free since a few months (had some party cigs while drunk, but that doesn't count...)

Good luck!

[tuky]

malcolm, i see you here, do you want to kick off another stop smoking campaign?

[chuchok]

Totally agree with you, RM. Of course, I'd condone any method that works. Nice personal account, though.

And to

George, did it work?

I have a chest infection at the moment and spend my sleeping time coughing and composing my death note to my daughters. I can't imagine a life without smokes, I started when I was 13 because it was cool

The biggest thing for me about stopping is that a life without them scares the heck outta me.

Easiest time to quit is when you are crook.I used to think just like you, couldn't imagine life without them.Christ, I used to enjoy it so much.On a good day 3 packs would go south.

I then told myself that the "oily rags" had me beat and were winning.hate being beaten in anything, so I turned it into a competition, that so far I am winning (8 months now) It's just a matter of getting hard IMO.

I stopped getting asthma and stopped coughing (Just like Wolfie described) It's still hard though.

The best thing about it is that the hangovers are not quite so bad!

[The Real Mandrake]

The best thing about quitting is becoming a typical ex-smoker... and looking down your nose at people who blow smoke towards you in public, or cursing the person who made your car smell of cigs

[malcolminthemiddle]

malcolm, i see you here, do you want to kick off another stop smoking campaign?

I have PM'd G to send out a mass email asking "Still Smoking? Want to Quit? Share your thoughts Here".

Hopefully the email will generate some interest and we can get some dialogue going.

G - Party cigs don't count? You are dicing with a complete relapse as Wolfie will testify.

From www.whyquit.com

It is hard for many people to grasp the concept of how just one little puff can result in full-blown relapse. It just doesn't seem logical to some people. But should you ever find yourself debating the thought of whether or not you could possibly get away with smoking "just" one, think about what advice you would give to a family member or friend who you cared for tremendously, while knowing that they were a recovering heroin or cocaine addict who was for the first time in months or years considering attempting recreational use. Imagine your shock and horror at even the thought of it, especially if you were with them back during the peak of their addiction when it was ruining almost every aspect of life and maybe even putting his or her very life on the line.

Would you say to him or her, "well, maybe you are better now, maybe its worth finding out if you could handle just one?"

Understanding the addiction is the key and as always once you have quit

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

[The Real Mandrake]

I want to understand why I struggled for years to stop... and then I stopped one morning without even trying.

It's a mystery to me. Perhaps I had a stroke and my personality changed

[malcolminthemiddle]

I want to understand why I struggled for years to stop... and then I stopped one morning without even trying.

It's a mystery to me. Perhaps I had a stroke and my personality changed

I also tried to stop many times before I eventually succeeded.

I think alot of my quitting success can be attributed to "stage of life".

Put it this way, I knew that if I wanted to have a healthy and long retirement I had to quit now (30 months ago aged 46) in order to give my body chance to heal. I knew delaying quitting would only jeopordise that goal.

Also, I had reached a point of contentment with career and family life.

[Tippaporn]

Tuky - Wolfie, the more you tell yourselves how hard it is, well . . . the harder it is. My experience was similar to The Real Mandrake's. I commited myself to quitting for a singular reason and never looked back. I did not experience a single withdrawal, never had a single urge or craving, sleepless night or any other adverse effect. And as much as I loved to smoke I never thought about it again - so I didn't miss it at all.

I wish that people understand that it doesn't have to be hard to do. In fact, I think the constant emphasis that it is hard, or is supposed to be hard, is actually a huge negative suggestion that needs to be played down, not up. The key for me was that I simply refused to think about it. As soon as the thought came up I dismissed it. Didn't take long before the thoughts quit coming up altogether.

Wish you two the best.

BTW G, good to hear that you finally made it.

[Neeranam]

I wish that people understand that it doesn't have to be hard to do. In fact, I think the constant emphasis that it is hard, or is supposed to be hard, is actually a huge negative suggestion that needs to be played down, not up. The key for me was that I simply refused to think about it. As soon as the thought came up I dismissed it. Didn't take long before the thoughts quit coming up altogether.

Absolutely, I've stopped before whilst doing a positive thinking course, it was easy http://www.bkwsu.com/us_studio/usb_index.htm

Right now I really need to stop, but the problem is I don't want to.

I can't stop unless I really want to.

Where can I buy Quomem / Zyban?

[daleyboy]

Well i gave up a 60 a day roll up habit one week after i found out the wife was pregenant. Went to the docs and she did the carbon monoxide test and put me on a 3 month course of patches, starting with the 15mg then 10mg then finally 5mg.

I had always promised myself i would give up smoking by the time i was 30, and i have done it. To be honest the only difference i noticed in my health was no cough anymore, and a better sense of taste and smell.

I havent really been tempted to go back to it, but i have had dreams where i am smoking, then woke up in a hurry looking for burning smokes in my bed

So keep it up geroge, and dont have those bloody party smokes. Just avoid going out for a couple of months, and then you will find it alot easier.

[malcolminthemiddle]

Right now I really need to stop, but the problem is I don't want to.

Here is how www.whyquit.com answers the statement

I'll quit after the next pack, next carton, next month, my next birthday or on New Years

Oh really? Can you count on both hands and all your toes how many times you've lied to yourself with such nonsense? And which pack, carton, month or birthday will give you the best chance for success? Forget buying nicotine laden cigarettes by the pack or carton. A case is even cheaper! With the way that cigarette prices are shooting through the roof, you might as well calculate how many it will take to keep you in nicotine for life and buy them all now. The only problem with that is in determining how long you have left to live. How many more pack, carton, birthday and New Year's lies will you tell to yourself? When will they stop? If you continue on your present path, many Birthdays are very likely be cancelled by your early Deathday. Will your family celebrate without you?