Is It Time For A Brits In Thailand Forum?

[robblok]

What we have are anti immigrant immigrants. I think that is a longer way of saying 'hypocrites'.

Cue the malcontents who will whinge that they're not immigrants in Thailand because their visa is stamped 'non-immigrant'.

Oh the irony. Here we have a group of people who resent the influx of immigration 'back home' but are equally resentful in Thailand because they're not allowed to be fully fledged . . . ummmm . . immigrants.

First of im not a Brit... Thank god.

I also have problems with some immigrants in my home country. But to compare someone who brings in money to a country and someone who leaches money from a country is a bit strange.

If an immigrant works i have absolutely no problems with him or her, but if he gets in a country and starts right away taking money from the state that could tick me off. We got enough white trash doing the same already. All those people are taking it away from the people who really need it. As for hard working immigrants, why not they contribute just like all the other working and tax paying people.

I cant see how you can equate having a problem with immigrants like that with the status of people bringing money in to Thailand.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh the old 'we're different' because we bring money into Thailand line. Nice one.

2 cents is a fair assessment of value.

Yes please don't read the rest of what i wrote, i only typed it for fun. Nice one Bendix.

[bonobo]

This entire thread is really skating on thin ice vis-à-vis being Thai-related and being critical of a nationality.

However, there seems to be some interest and the posts have been somewhat civil so far, so I will let it go for now, but any devolvement will result in the thread being closed.

[submaniac]

First of im not a Brit... Thank god.

Most of the posters on this forum will not understand you with your American slang. You should rephrase it using the comon phraseology currently used in Britain: "First off I'm not a Brit...Praise Allah".

[robblok]

First of im not a Brit... Thank god.

Most of the posters on this forum will not understand you with your American slang. You should rephrase it using the comon phraseology currently used in Britain: "First off I'm not a Brit...Praise Allah".

How stupid of me to forget.. my apologies. But should that not be Allah Akhbar or are you talking about the more integrated new Brits.

[samran]

Subby, you've been hanging out with all those Brit immigrants again haven't you

[submaniac]

No, no, no...I was just thinking about all the poor expats so far from home...I wanted to let them feel like they were back home in good ol' London[istan].

Edited February 22, 2012 by submaniac

[Bangkokhatter]

I've noticed three things about every post that talks about race:

1) The misuse of the word racialism. Racialism and racism are not the same thing.

2) Every post includes the sentence: I'm not a racialist

3) Every post references the fact that the poster has non-white friends.

It's fascinating. It really is.

I could go on, but my coffee is still hot.

maybe you should put your coffee down and read some posts again...

[2unique]

Racists, Racialists. Who cares?

I am neither a racists or racialist.....I hate every one equally...

I am neither a racist or racially prejudiced, perhaps - is racialist still used in British terminology? I thought only across the pond as racist became the common usage in Britain

[2unique]

First of im not a Brit... Thank god.

I also have problems with some immigrants in my home country. But to compare someone who brings in money to a country and someone who leaches money from a country is a bit strange.

If an immigrant works i have absolutely no problems with him or her...

But then you run into the "coming over here, taking our jobs!" or the, "they don't integrate, they only do business wiith each other or shop in their own shops" which still brings money into the country...

one can't please all of the people all of the time so whinge away

[CaitlinHappyMeal]

be thankfull you live in glasgow with it's relatively small immigration community,

and not in one of the many english towns.

Well, that didn't take long, did it the theblether?

Unbelievable. Truly remarkable.

You obviously haven't been to Glasgow lately?

[CaitlinHappyMeal]

As someone who is not British, and a regular reader of this forum, I will give my opinion that I think the OP has a point. The biggest rants come from those who are British/U.K. nationals. I would also say that I am not really "complaining" about it; I actually find the rant posts to be some of the most entertaining stuff there is.

I would also like to give my sincerest thanks to the British expats for edu-mah-cating me on your country. Everything I know about Britain I learned from Thaivisa. Apparently:

(1) there are no more white people left in the U.K.

(2) any person from a country that ends in the syllable "stan" is automatically entitled to British citizenship

(3) the Falklands have always been British and Argentina can go F*** itself

Haha love it 😜

[robblok]

First of im not a Brit... Thank god.

I also have problems with some immigrants in my home country. But to compare someone who brings in money to a country and someone who leaches money from a country is a bit strange.

If an immigrant works i have absolutely no problems with him or her...

But then you run into the "coming over here, taking our jobs!" or the, "they don't integrate, they only do business wiith each other or shop in their own shops" which still brings money into the country...

one can't please all of the people all of the time so whinge away

True, but i have no problem with those other things. As long as someone is working im ok with them (or at least try to find work not leach the state). But then again I expect the same from anyone(whatever color or where they are from), the dole is really there only for the real needy not the lazy. The only reason i singled out immigrants was that there are already enough lazy bums mooching of the state why import more (those that don't want to work).

As for they are stealing our jobs.. maybe your too expensive or not good enough.As for them buying at their own shops.. why not.

[Orac]

I think the OP is on to a winner.

Lets face it, as a forum bringing together people sharing a common interest in Thailand and providing an opportunity for users to ask questions and find out more about the place it has done an excellent job but most of the questions have been asked and answered already. The Thai politics threads are 'vibrant' and 'lively' though most of those long established members with intimate knowledge of the subject seem to avoid them now for some inexplicable reason.

The addition of the World News forum was a welcome opportunity to throw off the shackles and exploit those regional and ideological differences that we have but seems to have become more of a geopolitical battleground of late.

The obvious next step seems to be forum specifcally aimed at exploiting the hatred and animosity towards particular nationalities and, as a Brit, it seems only right and proper that we lead the way in this as we have in the past.

...;. or did I miss the point????

[bendix]

I've noticed three things about every post that talks about race:

1) The misuse of the word racialism. Racialism and racism are not the same thing.

2) Every post includes the sentence: I'm not a racialist

3) Every post references the fact that the poster has non-white friends.

It's fascinating. It really is.

I could go on, but my coffee is still hot.

maybe you should put your coffee down and read some posts again...

I never bother reading posts before deciding how to reply to them. I find it influences my opinion too much.

[Ijustwannateach]

I'm not from the UK but in a sense I have done a lot of career development in Thailand, too. It's not impossible, just not something that a lot of people here bother to do.

[geriatrickid]

Not all Brits whinge at all. I don't think I do anyway.

Someone with a stiff upper lip, the sort that added the Great to Britain. An endangered species if you ask me.

[samran]

GK

Whoever added the 'Great' to Britain was obviously a marketing whizz. The title had people fooled for centuries.

[geriatrickid]

Look if it wasn't for the Brit rants this wouldn't be much of a forum, we know so much about humour & comedy.

Only yesterday a Brit commented that he came to Thailand for "career development"

It don't get any better than that!

V Meldrew

That was me. I moved from a job as head of Australia role in Sydney, to a role based in BKK as head of Asia.

What's your point?

Key word: Asia, not Thailand.

Therefore, I think you have been unduly harsh on the chap.

Carry on.

[bendix]

Look if it wasn't for the Brit rants this wouldn't be much of a forum, we know so much about humour & comedy.

Only yesterday a Brit commented that he came to Thailand for "career development"

It don't get any better than that!

V Meldrew

That was me. I moved from a job as head of Australia role in Sydney, to a role based in BKK as head of Asia.

What's your point?

Key word: Asia, not Thailand.

Therefore, I think you have been unduly harsh on the chap.

Carry on.

Huh? He was suggesting my motives for moving to Thailand were nothing to do with career development. I made the point that my move and relocation reflected a promotion. If that isn't 'career development' then I'm a banana.

[WarpSpeed]

What nonsense. I am from the UK but actually love living and working in Thailand.

Problem is when ever you say something about immigration back in the UK you are labelled as racist by people like you.

Well I am far from racist, growing up on one of the most racially diverse council estate in England.

Fact is the UK immigration is a massive problem. Too many people there now, the country is basically full and cannot carry on supporting mass immigration. Thats not racist its fact.

Just because someone comments on something they don't like does not make them whingers, if that were the case then how would you describe yourself ?

Some of my best friends are Pakistani.....

[StreetCowboy]

Even if you complain, no-one listens. You might as well not bother. Look at these shoes (those shoes, now). I only had them a few months. In the end I had to put them in a bin, and buy a British brand.

The trouble is that we have so much trouble seeing ourselves as others see us, as Rabi Burns said. WHile I think I have a valid point to raise and worhty of constructive discussion, others see it as merely whinging. For example, I get incensed with the continuous mis-spelling, which must infuriate guys like Ryan Giggs and the Max Evans. Anyway, perhaps the moderators could move any offending posts into a Whinging Brits forum, and send the offender a PM (Persistent Moan). Or we could use subterfuge, and title the forum "Pensions and Immigration"...

SC

[Eff1n2ret]

I don't really see the point of a 'Brits in Thailand' forum. There are plenty of bores and whingers of other nationalities. Perhaps better to create a 'Bores and Whingers' forum to which those adjudged to be such would be banished and have posting rights only, either permanently or for a limited period. Anybody, for example, who wanted to discuss sinsod could go straight in there.

Should provide some good sport for the moderators.

[WarpSpeed]

This thread is a bit ironic in that recently a Pakistani immigrant has temporarily moved here in my neighborhood. He's seeking asylum as his form of Islam is supposed to be more moderate, tolerant and accepting of other religious beliefs but is being persecuted for it back home and his life and family threatened.

He has applied for asylum with UNHRC and his case has been accepted but it's uncertain where he and his family will end up being settled. He has claimed to want to learn some trades from me and suggested he could help me work on my cars and such but has yet to really commit to actually doing much helping.

Anyway, he tells me that there was another group of Pakistanis that were recently granted asylum in the states and they are disappointed as now they'll only get about 6 months of training and assistance and then have to stand on their own 2 feet where as if they had gone to Europe somewhere they'd get life long assistance.

To his credit he is not in agreement what-so-ever with them and is very embarrassed they feel that way and has questioned them on their thinking as he is very hopeful he gets the chance to go to the US and give it a go. He feels they are being very lazy minded and frowning on the best opportunity presented to them in their lives as his personal preference is the states..

While in this case the example is Pakistani's you can really substitute many other nationalities in it's place so no sort of racism is to be construed from this real life example..

[bendix]

Perhaps better to create a 'Bores and Whingers' forum

It's already been done. It's called Thaivisa.

[samran]

George better register Thaigeezer.com

Who needs a subforum? This needs a whole bloody website!

[wayned]

You're already on page three and I still don't know what you are talking about. There is no such word in the cambridge dictionary as wingeing! Now if you are taljkng about whining, I agree brits are at the top of the list! I used to have a ex RAF bloke working for me in Singapore. He actually carried a thermometer in his pocket to measure the temperature of the beer in the local pub after work and if it wasn't right there was no end to the "wingeing"! But have at it, this could be the longest thread in TV history!

Edited February 22, 2012 by wayned

[cardholder]

You're already on page three and I still don't know what you are talking about. There is no such word in the cambridge dictionary as wingeing! Now if you are taljkng about whining, I agree brits are at the top of the list! I used to have a ex RAF bloke working for me in Singapore. He actually carried a thermometer in his pocket to measure the temperature of the beer in the local pub after work and if it wasn't right there was no end to the "wingeing"! But have at it, this could be the longest thread in TV history!

It is people like this that made the Empire what it was.

Maintaining such standards is a vital part of British life.

I think your ex-employee is now working as a traffic warden in Croydon !

By the way:-

Verb

winge (third-person singular simple present winges, present participle wingeing or winging, simple past and past participle winged)

1. To cringe
   
2. (Australian, slang) (UK, slang) To complain whiningly.  [quotations ▼]
   

[msg362]

As the OP who raised the issue of poor communication between Pension offices in the UK and jokingly tried to compare them with Thailand, I feel responsible for some of the stuff that followed. ( I draw the line about comments on sex with women!) My comments about no inflation proofing on the pension are not a winge, just a Brit's anger at the lack of fair play ( Remember we Brits invented fair play!)

Now, for those of you that don't grasp the British sense of humour, try to work out which bits of this are feeble attempts at humour ( sorry humor for our american friends) and send me answers on a postcard.

[Eff1n2ret]

You're already on page three and I still don't know what you are talking about. There is no such word in the cambridge dictionary as wingeing! .......... there was no end to the "wingeing"!

From my Compact Oxford Dictionary (1231 pages!) - " whinge Brit. colloq. v.intr. whine, grumble peevishly. n. a whining complaint..."

You don't know what you're talking about either.

[ludditeman]

I've noticed three things about every post that talks about race:

1) The misuse of the word racialism. Racialism and racism are not the same thing.

2) Every post includes the sentence: I'm not a racialist

3) Every post references the fact that the poster has non-white friends.

It's fascinating. It really is.

I could go on, but my coffee is still hot.

I'm not a racist, but I don't have any non-white friends (unless you count Lebanese as non-white).

But I do have a non-white wife and child.

I'm not even sure that 'racialism' is a real word.

How do I fit in with your scheme of how things are?

Edited February 22, 2012 by ludditeman