Deputy PM Chalerm Vows To Bring Thaksin Back Home This Year

[Bagwan]

Why is the deputy prime minister wanting to bring back a convicted fugitive on the run? Presumably to serve his sentence? Will he be saying this every year? Thought he said that last year. How are all the parties going to unite? Does anyone know of any country in the world where all political parties agree with each other? I obey the law and like others to as well. If people break the law then they may get caught. If they caught they will go to court and might go to prison; thats the risk you take when you break the law. Do the crime do the time.

Maybe this time he is considering doing it in chains.

Truth is Thaksin has to many enemies and he knows it. He is afraid to come back to Thailand and it has nothing to do with the charges hanging over his head or the one he has already been convicted of.

If Thaksin does come back and is taken out wouldn't that leave Chalerm as top dog - or top soi dog? Then God help any notion of democracy and fair dealing.

[ttelise]

Haha, drunk again. Oh wait, ear ache. Forgot

[Soupdragon]

The veteran politican called on the media to understand and give justice to Thaksin by claiming that the ex-premier “did not commit any offence but instead happened to do what the law prohibited”.

Priceless.

[scorecard]

Exactly how does bringing back Thaksin and him avoiding jail (on the existing charge as well outstanding charges) help reconciliation in any way what so ever?

Do they really think the yellow shirts will sit back and let it happen without protests?

Chalerm is just being his normal ass-wipe self. He has to keep the red mob thugs pumped up in their support of PTP. Consider the source.

And he says in plain language that he's not interested in public opinion on this matter.

[Thaddeus]

The veteran politican called on the media to understand and give justice to Thaksin by claiming that the ex-premier “did not commit any offence but instead happened to do what the law prohibited”.

Priceless.

Quite.

But that is a fairly rational statement to make if you think that it is perfectly Ok for your son to shoot a policeman.

[scorecard]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

You said ....What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions ... .

So are you saying that because a large number of people were manipulated to vote for the pt, then pt now have the right to just alter / cancel important governance / abuse of power laws to whatever makes them (and their paymaster) happy.

And I guess your indicating that all of those manipulated to vote for pt are totally aware of all the real facts in the abuse or power case against thaksin, are all well informed about the actual laws involved and the reasons why these laws exist (all from the wonderful, honest, and sincere jatuporn and his cronies - the most honest people in Thailand), and fully understand the implications involved.

I think not.

[scorecard]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

you are a funny man biggest load of BS ive read for ages propel like you would not care if pol pot or Hitler came back

He is obviousley clueless. It is not a opinion by TV posters it is a conviction of crime by a Thai court.

Also I see why he is here.

quote

"Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum."

Speak for your self.

Agree, speak for yourself.

And I repeat as mentioned above ''thaksin was convicted by a court'', he was convicted of a serious abuse of power charge (nothing whatever to do with political matters), and please also note the case went through the court process, resulting in a guilty decision and a two year jail sentence during the period when a thaksin puppet government was in power.

[khunron13]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

I bet you also wai fellow foreigners!

[stevenl]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions.

Of course not, the judges decide in cases like this.

Of course he is welcome to come back, that is his own decision.

[Reasonableman]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions.

​We should dismiss all decisions by the law courts and refer them to a national plebiscite, as the court of final appeal? You must be joking. However, if you are not...

[otherstuff1957]

Thaksin and Chalerm probably understand each other very well: neither of them seems to be overly concerned with the rule of law (they seem to think that laws are for other people) and both put family, money and power before ethics or serving the public.

Chalerm's statements are probably being thrown out for two reasons: to prepare people for Thaksin's return and to gauge the public's reaction to the idea.

[animatic]

Same thing he said last year, and the year before, and the year before that too.

So there is more than one parrot in the Thai Government?

Mocking Birds seem more apropos.

[Insight]

Thaksin and Chalerm probably understand each other very well: neither of them seems to be overly concerned with the rule of law (they seem to think that laws are for other people) and both put family, money and power before ethics or serving the public.

Chalerm's statements are probably being thrown out for two reasons: to prepare people for Thaksin's return and to gauge the public's reaction to the idea.

Shrewd analysis.

Or his ear is playing up.

[pimay11]

The veteran politican called on the media to understand and give justice to Thaksin by claiming that the ex-premier “did not commit any offence but instead happened to do what the law prohibited”.

Priceless.

Quite.

But that is a fairly rational statement to make if you think that it is perfectly Ok for your son to shoot a policeman.

Especially shooting point blank in the face.

[janetrizzo]

United Provinces of Siam.

[OzMick]

Oh boy, Chalerm spouting off again, but won't reveal any details. Was he (allegedly) drunk again?

There is word for him that is just on the tip of my tongue. Something with a c.... What was it again?

Copraphagic, perhaps?

Cunning linguist?

[bigbamboo]

I do not hope Chalerm isn't going to do anything illegal. That wouldn't be a good example to set to his fellow MPs would it.

Edited March 9, 2012 by bigbamboo

[ballpoint]

Oh boy, Chalerm spouting off again, but won't reveal any details. Was he (allegedly) drunk again?

There is word for him that is just on the tip of my tongue. Something with a c.... What was it again?

Copraphagic, perhaps?

Cunning linguist?

Copralinguist.

[sparebox2]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

In which country is guilt decided by a popularity contest?

Iran and Iraq.

[pimay11]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

In which country is guilt decided by a popularity contest?

Evidently Thailand. Remember the constitutional court 8-7 not guilty verdict of concealing $98.4 USD worth of assets?

[allan michaud]

Pond life

[robia6]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

I bet you also wai fellow foreigners!

The funniest comment I've seen on here for ages.

[rubl]

The veteran politican called on the media to understand and give justice to Thaksin by claiming that the ex-premier “did not commit any offence but instead happened to do what the law prohibited”.

Priceless.

Quite.

But that is a fairly rational statement to make if you think that it is perfectly Ok for your son to shoot a policeman.

A bit off topic, but it should have been 'fellow' policeman, as in Dept. PM Pol. Captain C.

[rubl]

What everyone seems to ignore is that the electorate must rule in such discussions. I am neither pro nor anti-Thaksin. Yes, I read the charges against him and the opposing arguments, but T.I.T. That is the lynch pin in my non-argument, and not to be dismissed as a mere notion. I am simply saying our opinions as ex-pats are not only wildly speculative, but also demeaning to Thais.

If the majority of Thais hate him, let him stay away. If the majority loves him, then bring him back. Whatever they decide we should wave their flags--it's their country, after all.Root for the home team, because they pay your wages and secure your well-being and that's the way it goes EVERYWHERE. Enough with the egregious finger-pointing. What the majority of Thais want to happen in Thailand, no matter how much we disagree with it, is what is going to happen. Live with it, wanke_rs.

How can a thinking person, in one breath, say that no one here gets jailed or elected without influences, and then also say that they know what is going on and who is the bad guy? That is vapid in the extreme. It does not equate, at all. Either we are in the dark or not, and the evidence is that we are totally in the dark. I can say I like this guy and hate that guy, but with such restrictions on freedom of the press it is quite likely we are basing assumptions on red herrings, cooked slowly over burnt rubber and served up as caviar. And some idiots call that gourmet.

But we don't like that, we don't like not knowing. And we never will. Almost like being in America again, for me.

I really don't care if he comes back. So many people here are just bickering, like old hens over an egg that already spoiled and belongs to someone else.

Worse, we came here because our own countries let us down, disenfranchised us, or screwed us in one way or another, and too many suggest the Thais should have the same model. If at first you don't succeed, make other messes ad infinitum.

Really, there must be a lot of bored arm-chair political experts teaching first grade floating around here.

FF

In which country is guilt decided by a popularity contest?

Evidently Thailand. Remember the constitutional court 8-7 not guilty verdict of concealing $98.4 USD worth of assets?

Honest mistake, it still brings tears to my eyes. With so many assets how is one to remember where parts are hidden and hidden by whom, to avoid paying taxes"? The maid and the driver forgot to remind me! Don't you commiserate with the 'amply rich' for their anxieties and justifiable worries? Anyway, only poor people pay taxes and justly so, as all know. Ask my friend Mitt Romney, he has similar problems

Edited March 9, 2012 by rubl

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Exactly how does bringing back Thaksin and him avoiding jail (on the existing charge as well outstanding charges) help reconciliation in any way what so ever?

Do they really think the yellow shirts will sit back and let it happen without protests?

Getting rid of corruption, rule of law, justice and true democracy (whatever your definition of those last two may be) all those abstract pipe dreams aren't at issue here. It's just two different mafias battling over the economic spoils of political war.

You don't realize that while the Thaksinistas are in control, the definition of reconciliation is that the opposition accepts that reality and bows to their wishes.

In exchange, he may be willing to share a bit more of the spoils this time around, and then everyone should be happy.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

It is not a opinion by TV posters it is a conviction of crime by a Thai court.

Neither has much weight in the real world, although I reckon the latter is much more easily overturned.

If the whole Constitution can be thrown out the window on the whim of small-group-of-powerful-players X, then by what logic would the decisions of any other institutions be held sacred?

The opposition can play their ace in the whole only so many times per decade, and going against Thaksin's wishes at this point would lead IMO to and armed uprising, perhaps even full-blown civil war.

He's no Hitler or Pol Pot, not even a Mobuto, IMO more along the lines of a Cheney.

As with the US, it's the system and society itself that is fundamentally corrupt, changing out the players at the top barely makes a difference from one decade to the next.

[KKK]

A deputy prime minister has vowed to bring self-exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra home to Thailand within this year.

Should read

A deputy prime minister has vowed to bring self-exiled, fugitive criminal and former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra to prison in Thailand within this year.

[Skywalker69]

Oh boy, Chalerm spouting off again, but won't reveal any details. Was he (allegedly) drunk again?

There is word for him that is just on the tip of my tongue. Something with a c.... What was it again?

Carcinogenic.

So Chalerm is Carcinogenic.

I just thought the old bugger was blethering on again ...

.

Johnny Walkergenic

[Ricardo]

Oh boy, Chalerm spouting off again, but won't reveal any details. Was he (allegedly) drunk again?

There is word for him that is just on the tip of my tongue. Something with a c.... What was it again?

Carcinogenic.

So Chalerm is Carcinogenic.

I just thought the old bugger was blethering on again ...

.

Johnny Walkergenic

Presumably JW Red, not black ?

[Thaddeus]

Presumably JW Red, not black ?

Shivers.... Legal.