News_Editor Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 3 children die in Gaza candle fire amidst energy crisis 2012-04-03 06:22:49 GMT+7 (ICT) GAZA STRIP (BNO NEWS) -- Three Palestinian children were killed on late Sunday night when a candle accident set their room ablaze, local media reported on Monday, as the energy crisis continues in the Gaza Strip. The accident occurred on late Sunday night in the town of Deir Balah, located in the central Gaza Strip, when the children's room caught fire due to a candle, which was lighting the room. Adham Abu Selmiya, a spokesman for emergency services in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, told Ynet News that three children aged two, five and six were killed. A fourth child, who is only six months old, suffered serious burn injuries and was rushed to a local hospital. The energy crisis in the Gaza Strip continues as the only power station in the coastal area was shut down last week when it ran out of fuel, only two days after receiving (118,877 US gallons) of fuel from Israel. However, protesters and local authorities have blamed the Israeli government for the energy crisis since it has been conducting a blockade to the strip. In addition, in June 2006, Israel destroyed the region's main power station. In 2008, Israel restricted pumping into the area after considering the Hamas-led area a hostile entity. Last week, the Red Cross said it will be delivering emergency supplies to help Gaza's worst energy crisis, which is also affecting medical services. -- © BNO News All rights reserved 2012-04-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cornichon88 Posted April 2, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2012 Why don't they blame all their "good arab brothers" who have plenty of petrol for sale ? Is it always the duty of the West to give while many countries in the Gulf send billions of $ in Europe to build mosques ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Nice Propaganda coup for Hamas and no doubt will be milked for all its worth ,which will then be fed and eagerly consumed by the left wing Anti Jewish "bleeding heart" brigade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Nice Propaganda coup for Hamas and no doubt will be milked for all its worth ,which will then be fed and eagerly consumed by the left wing Anti Jewish "bleeding heart" brigade. Such compassion. You are a light in the universe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Yai Posted April 3, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Nice Propaganda coup for Hamas and no doubt will be milked for all its worth ,which will then be fed and eagerly consumed by the left wing Anti Jewish "bleeding heart" brigade. Such compassion. You are a light in the universe. For what its worth I have no compassion whatsoever for Hamas who use their own women and Children as suicide bombers and Human shields against the non Combatant Civilian Jews ,They show no compassion even for their own kind ,so why should they receive any in return?? Edited April 3, 2012 by Colin Yai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 And now I think we can drop the compassion subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Nice Propaganda coup for Hamas and no doubt will be milked for all its worth ,which will then be fed and eagerly consumed by the left wing Anti Jewish "bleeding heart" brigade. Such compassion. You are a light in the universe. LOL. One never knows the actual story. One could ask, why was a candle left unattended with children? Why was it not placed in a tin can or similar container? whatever happened to parents taking responsibility for their actions? Whenever I have a power failure and have to use a candle, i never leave it unattended in a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawaiimomo Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 @cornichon88 do you know Gaza is under a blockade, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 @cornichon88 do you know Gaza is under a blockade, don't you? Why is that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Sad accident is all it is. However, it is fact that the Israeli blockade of Gaza is effecting its power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Sad accident is all it is. However, it is fact that the Israeli blockade of Gaza is effecting its power supply. And the Israelis have a blockade there just because they are big meanies? Might they have a REASON to take action against Gaza, which elected a government dedicated to the destruction of Israel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Apparently the blockade does not include candles. Perhaps it should. Let's stick to the topic. Three children have lost their lives. They will not be participating in the destruction of anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) The OP in the topic clearly mentions blaming the Israelis for the deaths, yes? So that is OK to stand without rebuttal? Dead children are always a tragedy, anywhere, anytime. But again, read the OP. BLAME is clearly talked about. If the topic is restricted to dead children equals bad, we can't talk about the politics, might as well forget it. Who would disagree with that? Edited April 3, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Point taken, however, take this one: As soon as it gets snarky, then posters will be in the penalty box. Please note, no posts deleted. A reminder only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Yai Posted April 3, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately like it or lump it" the same old shit" is falling cos it just happens to be the truth ,Hamas was elected with one thing in mind ,the total destruction of the Country of Israel and the Jews which should be replaced by an Islamic state , this is plainly stated in Hamas's Charter or Covenant I suggest you read it in its entirety , then give yourself a break and try and face reality . Edited April 4, 2012 by Scott Deleted quote edited out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Certainly a tragedy. No idea how people go on after something like this happens. Hope the baby will make it alive. I'm not quite sure this could be chalked up the situation in Gaza - sadly, those kind of stories tend to ignore borders: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/6-family-members-including-5-children-killed-in-fire-in-central-israel/2012/03/26/gIQAB44fcS_story.html (that's about 80km away). Blaming politics, parents and statisitcal chances might work for some, personally my mind tends to stall after reading the first three words of such headlines. You can stop reading here, the rest is just details and politics. Israel is required, under international law and bilateral agreements, to provide the Palestinian Authority with means to produce (or to have) energy (this covers both electricity and fuel). Since both Hamas and Israel don't recognize each other as legitimate, of course there's an issue. Hamas denouncing both the PA and any agreements with Israel, made a go-around solution even harder, especially as Egypt was not very receptive to the ideas of it taking over Israel's place or fully opening its border pass with Gaza. Even with Egypt clamping down on Illegal oil smuggling to Gaza (which cut off the "independent" line of supply for the Hamas), the Hamas refused get the oil direct from Israel or via the PA, and insisted on Egypt supplying it through the Egyptian border pass. Hamas used this situation to rile the population against Israel and the PA, with the focus just recently shifting to blaming Egypt. Seems like not all locals are buying this, though, as there were some attempts to demonstrate etc. - which did not go very far, yet. Apparently, there is already a temporary solution in place - basically just make pretend with nominally no official contact between Israel and the Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Certainly a tragedy. No idea how people go on after something like this happens. Hope the baby will make it alive. I'm not quite sure this could be chalked up the situation in Gaza - sadly, those kind of stories tend to ignore borders: http://www.washingto...4fcS_story.html (that's about 80km away). Blaming politics, parents and statisitcal chances might work for some, personally my mind tends to stall after reading the first three words of such headlines. You can stop reading here, the rest is just details and politics. Israel is required, under international law and bilateral agreements, to provide the Palestinian Authority with means to produce (or to have) energy (this covers both electricity and fuel). Since both Hamas and Israel don't recognize each other as legitimate, of course there's an issue. Hamas denouncing both the PA and any agreements with Israel, made a go-around solution even harder, especially as Egypt was not very receptive to the ideas of it taking over Israel's place or fully opening its border pass with Gaza. Even with Egypt clamping down on Illegal oil smuggling to Gaza (which cut off the "independent" line of supply for the Hamas), the Hamas refused get the oil direct from Israel or via the PA, and insisted on Egypt supplying it through the Egyptian border pass. Hamas used this situation to rile the population against Israel and the PA, with the focus just recently shifting to blaming Egypt. Seems like not all locals are buying this, though, as there were some attempts to demonstrate etc. - which did not go very far, yet. Apparently, there is already a temporary solution in place - basically just make pretend with nominally no official contact between Israel and the Hamas. Mean while the ordinary Citizen in Gaza who look to Hamas to take care of their interests and welfare Continue to struggle with every day life ,how much money is pouring in to the Hamas coffers from world wide "sympathizer,s" is any ones guess !!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Unfortunately like it or lump it" the same old shit" is falling cos it just happens to be the truth ,Hamas was elected with one thing in mind ,the total destruction of the Country of Israel and the Jews which should be replaced by an Islamic state , this is plainly stated in Hamas's Charter or Covenant I suggest you read it in its entirety , then give yourself a break and try and face reality . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hey Jingthing, Quid to a piece of shit , many are not aware what the "Fifth Amendment" actually means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 A baiting post has been deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17607549 Fuel has started arriving in the Gaza Strip as a result of a deal between the territory's Hamas-led government and the rival Palestinian Authority. So presumably had the deal been done earlier there would have been no need for power cuts or candles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted April 4, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't even know why this alleged event is even being discussed. There is no evidence that the deaths were even due to the circumstances alleged. I am not being cynical, but the arab factions have a history of presenting deaths that have occurred under different circumstances as being a result of their ongoing dispute with Israel. Even if the family was indeed using candles, why does this attach to Israel? Is it Israel's fault that the children were left unattended with a burning candle? The whole story stinks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Yai Posted April 4, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I don't even know why this alleged event is even being discussed. There is no evidence that the deaths were even due to the circumstances alleged. I am not being cynical, but the arab factions have a history of presenting deaths that have occurred under different circumstances as being a result of their ongoing dispute with Israel. Even if the family was indeed using candles, why does this attach to Israel? Is it Israel's fault that the children were left unattended with a burning candle? The whole story stinks. Yep you've hit the nail on the head!! It does not matter how "far fetched" the story is coming out of Gaza , if it casts a bad light (forgive the pun) against Israel it will be seized on by the Jew haters and regarded as the gospel. Edited April 4, 2012 by Colin Yai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Here is a Hamas spokesman ranting on about Egypt's failure to provide them with fuel. He does make a couple of points that Hamas apologists may struggle to explain though, especially concerning the origin of the fakestinians. http://blogs.news.co..._it_from_hamas/ The Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security in Gaza, Fathi Hammad, wants more petrol from Egypt and makes two points that few in the anti-Israeli lobby will want to hear. First, he wants the help of Arab nations so that Gaza can wage “jihad” against Israel so “Zionists” will be “annihilated”. (From 1:15) Second, the people of Gaza are not originally from Israel - “Brothers, half the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis.” (From 1:45.) Edited April 5, 2012 by Steely Dan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Netanyhu said........ If the Palistinians lay down their arms today , there will be peace ! If Israel lays down her arms today, there will be no more Israel. Says it all does'nt it ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Here is a Hamas spokesman ranting on about Egypt's failure to provide them with fuel. He does make a couple of points that Hamas apologists may struggle to explain though, especially concerning the origin of the fakestinians. http://blogs.news.co..._it_from_hamas/ The Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security in Gaza, Fathi Hammad, wants more petrol from Egypt and makes two points that few in the anti-Israeli lobby will want to hear. First, he wants the help of Arab nations so that Gaza can wage “jihad” against Israel so “Zionists” will be “annihilated”. (From 1:15) Second, the people of Gaza are not originally from Israel - “Brothers, half the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis.” (From 1:45.) Can you say oooopie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exsexyman Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Netanyhu said........ If the Palistinians lay down their arms today , there will be peace ! If Israel lays down her arms today, there will be no more Israel. Says it all does'nt it ! Doesn't quite say it all. Perhaps worth bearing in mind that the Presidents of France and The USA were caught on camera recently agreeing with each other that based on their dealings with Mr Netanyahu, he was a bare faced liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Netanyhu said........ If the Palistinians lay down their arms today , there will be peace ! If Israel lays down her arms today, there will be no more Israel. Says it all does'nt it ! Doesn't quite say it all. Perhaps worth bearing in mind that the Presidents of France and The USA were caught on camera recently agreeing with each other that based on their dealings with Mr Netanyahu, he was a bare faced liar! Of course he is. So what? Does that change the need Israelis feel to defend their nation's right to exist from clear and present threats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Netanyhu said........ If the Palistinians lay down their arms today , there will be peace ! If Israel lays down her arms today, there will be no more Israel. Says it all does'nt it ! Doesn't quite say it all. Nonsense. Nicolas Sarkozy said it, but he's been known to tell a few tall tales himself. http://www.economicv...8#axzz1rAQZvE9F Edited April 5, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Nonsense. Nicolas Sarkozy said it, but he's been known to tell a few tall tales himself. http://www.economicv...8#axzz1rAQZvE9F All national leaders are liars. That's a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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