webfact Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 BY ELECTION Chiang Mai by-poll a must in 45 days: EC The Nation Chinicha (L) and her father, Somchai CHIANG MAI: -- The Election Commission is duty-bound to organise the Chiang Mai by-election within 45 days to fill the House seat vacated by former Pheu Thai MP Chinnicha Wongsawat, EC member Sodsri Satayathum said yesterday. Last week, the Supreme Court found Chinnicha guilty of filing a false asset statement and barred her from holding office for five years. "The by-election must take place within the deadline regardless of an appellate review," she said. She said Chinnicha had a right to try to overturn her verdict but at the same time the EC could not wait for the outcome of the appellate review due to time constraints. The Pheu Thai Party will not nominate its candidate to replace Chinnicha before the completion of the appellate review, party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said. Prompong said he was confident Chinnicha could clear her name based on fresh evidence. -- The Nation 2012-04-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Mark should stand, and penetrate the egg yoke of the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 We can only hope the appeal takes longer than 45 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Fully realizing that these Shinawatra/Wongsawat clan members are not exactly paupers, there's some degree of solace gained from remembering that the last time an MP got disqualified, unsurprisingly from the struggle-to-follow-the-law Pheu Thai Party, it was reminded that Chinnicha is liable to pay for the cost of the upcoming by-election in Chiang Mai. Pheu Thai MP disqualified The Election Commission has disqualified Pheu Thai MP Distad Khumprakob on the grounds that he had not been a resident of the Nakhon Sawan constituency long enough. Under electoral law, a candidate must maintain a residence for a minimum of five years in a given constituency to be eligible to contest elections to Parliament. The EC will forward its ruling to the Supreme Court's Elections Division for judicial review. Should the high court endorse his disqualification, Distad is liable to pay back the cost of holding a by-election. http://www.nationmul...d-30177963.html Edited April 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Fresh evidence? Did they find a lunch box? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Let's see who from the Shinawatra/Pombejra gang steps up to take her place. There may be some second cousin or in-law left, or else they'll have to start fielding their pets as stand-ins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Let's see who from the Shinawatra/Pombejra gang steps up to take her place. There may be some second cousin or in-law left, or else they'll have to start fielding their pets as stand-ins. They could always go with the brother, that was so incompetent that it was decided against running him for the PM position and forced the reluctant Yingluck to take, with the great campaign slogan just waiting to be utilized. Give Payup Shinawatra a crack at it... , Edited April 23, 2012 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KireB Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. This man should bein prison, he's a murderer. But that doesn't make a false asset concealment right, now does it? Stop polarizing everything that happens in Thailand! Stop comparing reds and yellows, PT and Democrats and start seeing things the way they are: corrupt tothe core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. This man should bein prison, he's a murderer. But that doesn't make a false asset concealment right, now does it? Stop polarizing everything that happens in Thailand! Stop comparing reds and yellows, PT and Democrats and start seeing things the way they are: corrupt tothe core. Indeed so, constant tit for tat comparisons simply confirm what many know and most suspect, that the entire political structure is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. I know, shocking isn't it. Sort of like Jatuporn and the other main arsonist Nattawhut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. This man should bein prison, he's a murderer. But that doesn't make a false asset concealment right, now does it? Stop polarizing everything that happens in Thailand! Stop comparing reds and yellows, PT and Democrats and start seeing things the way they are: corrupt tothe core. Indeed so, constant tit for tat comparisons simply confirm what many know and most suspect, that the entire political structure is corrupt. So what do you want to do, turn this forum into a democrat party broadsheet, even more than it is already? Edited April 23, 2012 by phiphidon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. This man should bein prison, he's a murderer. But that doesn't make a false asset concealment right, now does it? Stop polarizing everything that happens in Thailand! Stop comparing reds and yellows, PT and Democrats and start seeing things the way they are: corrupt tothe core. Indeed so, constant tit for tat comparisons simply confirm what many know and most suspect, that the entire political structure is corrupt. So what do you want to do, turn this forum into a democrat party broadsheet, even more than it is already? If this reply is aimed at me I find it strange, "the entire political structure" means all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. He should be stripped of immunity, be removed from the dem party and a fresh by election held to replace him, for which he pays the costs. If he is found innocent the cost will be reimbursed. Because lets be honest if you have to hid behind 'immunity laws' it speaks volumes about how you as a person perceive your own guilt or culpability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ < off-topic photo snipped > What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. I know, shocking isn't it. Sort of like Jatuporn and the other main arsonist Nattawhut. and about 10 others from the same group as theirs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. He should be stripped of immunity, be removed from the dem party and a fresh by election held to replace him, for which he pays the costs. If he is found innocent the cost will be reimbursed. Because lets be honest if you have to hid behind 'immunity laws' it speaks volumes about how you as a person perceive your own guilt or culpability. He is innocent. It is a dirty game that Yingluck play on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) . With a nod to the excellent diversionary effort,... back on the actual topic of the thread Chiang Mai by-poll a must in 45 days: EC CHIANG MAI: -- The Election Commission is duty-bound to organise the Chiang Mai by-election within 45 days to fill the House seat vacated by former Pheu Thai MP Chinnicha Wongsawat, EC member Sodsri Satayathum said yesterday. I wonder what the by-election will cost Chinnicha. . Edited April 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. He should be stripped of immunity, be removed from the dem party and a fresh by election held to replace him, for which he pays the costs. If he is found innocent the cost will be reimbursed. Because lets be honest if you have to hid behind 'immunity laws' it speaks volumes about how you as a person perceive your own guilt or culpability I have to disagree with your suggestion. There is no reason any MP should have to give up his seat because he faces unproved accusations, and this is the reason the immunity system exists. Of course it is open to abuse, such as the nomination of accused candidates to help them avoid prosecution. A better system is "pairing" where when an accused MP is absent from parliament, another member of the opposite party is not allowed to vote until the charges are heard and guilt decided. Not a hard system to implement, but not likely while THIS government has a substantial portion of their party list profiting from their immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. He should be stripped of immunity, be removed from the dem party and a fresh by election held to replace him, for which he pays the costs. If he is found innocent the cost will be reimbursed. Because lets be honest if you have to hid behind 'immunity laws' it speaks volumes about how you as a person perceive your own guilt or culpability I have to disagree with your suggestion. There is no reason any MP should have to give up his seat because he faces unproved accusations, and this is the reason the immunity system exists. Of course it is open to abuse, such as the nomination of accused candidates to help them avoid prosecution. A better system is "pairing" where when an accused MP is absent from parliament, another member of the opposite party is not allowed to vote until the charges are heard and guilt decided. Not a hard system to implement, but not likely while THIS government has a substantial portion of their party list profiting from their immunity. Although I don't know the details of this case, I seem to recall it was an allegedly fairly gruesome affair with several shots fired into the victim at close range. The immunity clause prevents the main suspect from being investigated which must be traumatic to say the least for the victims family, knowing that the suspect is walking around 'untouchable'. in this case his immunity is a hindrance to justice and i think, on balance the right of the MP to be protected from false allegations should not outweigh the responsibility of the authorities to find the victims killer. As for the OP well I bet Cinnicha is happy Auntie Yingluck was able to come back from Japan with millions of Yen in 'investments' which she'll 'gift' to her to cover the cost of the by-election. Cinnicha is a Shinawatra we all know any cost from this by-election will cost the dynasty sweet FA. Mind you it would put the cat amongst the pigeons of the Dems or another party won a CM seat. The boat may start to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. Indeed so, constant tit for tat comparisons simply confirm what many know and most suspect, that the entire political structure is corrupt. So what do you want to do, turn this forum into a democrat party broadsheet, even more than it is already? I think he would rather turn it into a forum on the government making good on it's promises and paying attention to the needs of the people more than the will of one man who chooses to live in another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Constituency 3 By-election in Chiang Mai Set for June 2 BANGKOK: -- The Election Commission has set June 2 as the date for the Constituency 3 by-election in Chiang Mai while awaiting the issuance of a royal decree to make it official. Meanwhile, the Pheu Thai Party announces that it will not field the children of former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat in the by-election. Election Commission Deputy Secretary-General Boonyakiat Rakchartcharoen said the board has resolved to propose June 2 as the date for a by-election for Constituency 3 in Chiang Mai Province and May 27 for advance balloting. Applications for the by-election will be accepted from May 7 to 11. The proposal will be forwarded to the Cabinet which will seek the issuance of a royal decree to make the dates official. Pheu Thai Party deputy spokesperson Sunisa Lertpakawat said the party will not field the children of former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat, Yosthanan, and Chayapha, in the by-election. The by-election is required after former Pheu Thai MP for Chiang Mai Chinnicha Wongsawat was disqualified by the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions for a false declaration of her assets. However, she added the party has one applicant who is in Chinnicha's support team. -- Tan Network 2012-04-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Meanwhile, the Pheu Thai Party announces that it will not field the children of former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat in the by-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastitche Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 They will cull the best looking inmate newly released from jail to run in her place why continue to be cagey about thief just put it in the voters face. Thief, why stop there, how about an MP accused of premeditated murder, I mean surely the democrats would want to wash their hands of this man............ What, oh sorry, he's still a democrat MP, under immunity, still not answering police questions. He should be stripped of immunity, be removed from the dem party and a fresh by election held to replace him, for which he pays the costs. If he is found innocent the cost will be reimbursed. Because lets be honest if you have to hid behind 'immunity laws' it speaks volumes about how you as a person perceive your own guilt or culpability I have to disagree with your suggestion. There is no reason any MP should have to give up his seat because he faces unproved accusations, and this is the reason the immunity system exists. Of course it is open to abuse, such as the nomination of accused candidates to help them avoid prosecution. A better system is "pairing" where when an accused MP is absent from parliament, another member of the opposite party is not allowed to vote until the charges are heard and guilt decided. Not a hard system to implement, but not likely while THIS government has a substantial portion of their party list profiting from their immunity. There is no pairing system that would cover an absence for an MP on a murder charge; parliamentary immunity in Thailand is farcical - in other countries it means immunity for what is said in the House, not for criminal acts outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Posts using derogatory nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be deleted. If you don’t want your post to be deleted, spell people’s names correctly. Other off topic posts and replies have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Fresh evidence? Did they find a lunch box? Hahaha. They just had the hearing and found her 'guilty as charged'. Now all of a sudden they have new evidence ? What a laugh! A pathetic face saving exercise I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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