MP Phone Could Have Sourced Porn Pic, Says Pheu Thai

[nurofiend]

The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo. That is their true unedited heart.

*50 people like this post*

[Orac]

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

[animatic]

i really don't give two sh%*s if he was looking at porn or not tbh, i'm just replying to someone suggesting it was a set up... you know, because he is a democrat after all.

Considering that 3 people sit right behind him at allk times, it would be foolish to knowingly open an porn image with someone looking over their shoulder.

But not foolish, if that is NOT what they were expecting to see.

It seems the credulous believe Thumbnails can't be modified to other images.

Solly Chollie. Can be done by dozens at Pantip.

Considering that 3 people sit right behind him at allk times, it would be foolish to knowingly open an porn image with someone looking over their shoulder.

well maybe he's a fool then.

i don't think you would be raising these same hypotheticals if it was a ptp mp, that's one reason why i take an issue what you are saying.

another reason is the likelihood that if some shady forces were trying to make the dems look bad, surely they would come up with something that would have a bit more impact than this!

this is on a dr evil "one millllllion dollars" level....

I raise the hypotheticals, because this case has so many it, is illogical not to.

I also raise them because the PTP and friends have a long standing track-record of

lame attempts at framing, besmirching or causing face loss for their opposite numbers.

They have done some truly stupid things and gotten caught doing them,

because they are 3rd string TRT and apparently not competent in many levels.

Yes, certainly the Dems make accusations,

but more often than not there is Fire where they yell Smoke.

Edited April 30, 2012 by animatic

[nurofiend]

I raise the hypotheticals because this case has so many it is illogical not to.

I also raise them because the PTP and friends have a long standing track-record of

lame attempts at framing, besmirching or causing face loss for their opposite numbers.

They have done some truly stupid things and gotten caught doing them,

because they are 3rd string TRT and apparently not competent in many levels.

Yes, certainly the Dems make accusations,

but more often than not there is Fire where they yell smoke.

but you wouldn't be raising these hypotheticals if it was a ptp mp...

it's fair enough to question things, as long as you're fair about the things you question.

[animatic]

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

True, that point is shrouded in silence.

Of course there are Apps that can "SPOOF" someones phone adress

and people THINK it comes from a friend when it has not.

This technique was shown on last weeks ' Fairly Legal ' show.

If it is being used on TV plots it is certainly well known in the technical world

I highly doubt the phones would send to each other,

and "accidentally" be seen on the big screen also.

Different IP address, and calling for directing it to that address.

[Yunla]

The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo. That is their true unedited heart.

*50 people like this post*

That is a lie.

In any case I don't post for thumbs-up, I'm more interested in the issue itself, apparently unlike you. I posted this because I'm genuinely disgusted that a government member can tell a young man to hang himself over a porn picture. To me that is the real crime, not the technology used or how it got on screens or into a phone, those things are just arguments over a porn picture, to me the issue is that somebody in the Govt wants this guy to hang himself over it.

[Orac]

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

True, that point is shrouded in silence.

Of course there are Apps that can "SPOOF" someones phone adress

and people THINK it comes from a friend when it has not.

This technique was shown on last weeks ' Fairly Legal ' show.

If it is being used on TV plots it is certainly well known in the technical world

I highly doubt the phones would send to each other,

and "accidentally" be seen on the big screen also.

Different IP address, and calling for directing it to that address.

I am not sure how the iphone works with regards to sharing but the android/samsung I have has an option to share which, when pressed, brings up a list of available devices set up for DNLA/allshare connected to that wireless network. Maybe someone just picked the wrong device or even did it on purpose to see what would happen - we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around.

[animatic]

I raise the hypotheticals because this case has so many it is illogical not to.

I also raise them because the PTP and friends have a long standing track-record of

lame attempts at framing, besmirching or causing face loss for their opposite numbers.

They have done some truly stupid things and gotten caught doing them,

because they are 3rd string TRT and apparently not competent in many levels.

Yes, certainly the Dems make accusations,

but more often than not there is Fire where they yell smoke.

but you wouldn't be raising these hypotheticals if it was a ptp mp...

it's fair enough to question things, as long as you're fair about the things you question.

Again; track records of each group and their past actions.

How many times have the Dems actual beeen caught doing a true dirty trick on the TRT/PPP/TRT mps?

How many attempts by PTP/Reds to wrongly hang the Dems up to dry.

Track Records, speak louder than personal preferences.

But I am mostly speaking about technical issues being raised by others here,

since those others are apparently not as technically informed as I am.

Edited April 30, 2012 by animatic

[Lifer]

Nothing more productive to do than posters arguing over some guys porn picture?

[nurofiend]

The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo. That is their true unedited heart.

*50 people like this post*

That is a lie.

In any case I don't post for thumbs-up, I'm more interested in the issue itself, apparently unlike you. I posted this because I'm genuinely disgusted that a government member can tell a young man to hang himself over a porn picture. To me that is the real crime, not the technology used or how it got on screens or into a phone, those things are just arguments over a porn picture, to me the issue is that somebody in the Govt wants this guy to hang himself over it.

i meant, this kind of nonsense "The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo." is sure to be popular on here.

unless you truly believe that as a statement of fact of course.

you're more interested in the issue itself? then maybe go to the thread where they mention about the 'hanging statement' because judging by your post, you don't seem concerned whatsoever about the issue of this thread.

to me the issue is that somebody in the Govt wants this guy to hang himself over it

yep, disgusting thing to say.. i may differ in your opinion about him literally wanting the guy to hang himself as you're suggesting but i'm not here to defend the statement as anything other than despicable.

Edited April 30, 2012 by nurofiend

[nurofiend]

I raise the hypotheticals because this case has so many it is illogical not to.

I also raise them because the PTP and friends have a long standing track-record of

lame attempts at framing, besmirching or causing face loss for their opposite numbers.

They have done some truly stupid things and gotten caught doing them,

because they are 3rd string TRT and apparently not competent in many levels.

Yes, certainly the Dems make accusations,

but more often than not there is Fire where they yell smoke.

but you wouldn't be raising these hypotheticals if it was a ptp mp...

it's fair enough to question things, as long as you're fair about the things you question.

Again; track records of each group and their past actions.

How many times have the Dems actual beeen caught doing a true dirty trick on the TRT/PPP/TRT mps?

How many attempts by PTP/Reds to wrongly hang the Dems up to dry.

Track Records, speak louder than personal preferences.

But I am mostly speaking about technical issues being raised by others here,

since those others are apparently not as technically informed as I am.

"How many times have the Dems actual beeen caught doing a true dirty trick on the TRT/PPP/TRT mps?

How many attempts by PTP/Reds to wrongly hang the Dems up to dry."

i honestly don't know, maybe you could help me out with those numbers.

but my basic point remains... and i think remains valid.

[animatic]

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

True, that point is shrouded in silence.

Of course there are Apps that can "SPOOF" someones phone adress

and people THINK it comes from a friend when it has not.

This technique was shown on last weeks ' Fairly Legal ' show.

If it is being used on TV plots it is certainly well known in the technical world

I highly doubt the phones would send to each other,

and "accidentally" be seen on the big screen also.

Different IP address, and calling for directing it to that address.

I am not sure how the iphone works with regards to sharing but the android/samsung I have has an option to share which, when pressed, brings up a list of available devices set up for DNLA/allshare connected to that wireless network. Maybe someone just picked the wrong device or even did it on purpose to see what would happen - we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around.

Spoofing works for most any phone receiving SMS text and text with attachments

as well as voice sender spoofing.

Just a quick easily searched sampling on the subject....

http://www.ehow.com/...e-spoofing.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_7786163_install-app-windows-mobile-phone.html

http://www.squidoo.com/spoofingcallerid

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/spoof

http://appfinder.lisisoft.com/ipad-iphone-apps/address-mac-spoofing.html

"we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around."

Indeed.

Edited April 30, 2012 by animatic

[Orac]

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

True, that point is shrouded in silence.

Of course there are Apps that can "SPOOF" someones phone adress

and people THINK it comes from a friend when it has not.

This technique was shown on last weeks ' Fairly Legal ' show.

If it is being used on TV plots it is certainly well known in the technical world

I highly doubt the phones would send to each other,

and "accidentally" be seen on the big screen also.

Different IP address, and calling for directing it to that address.

I am not sure how the iphone works with regards to sharing but the android/samsung I have has an option to share which, when pressed, brings up a list of available devices set up for DNLA/allshare connected to that wireless network. Maybe someone just picked the wrong device or even did it on purpose to see what would happen - we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around.

Spoofing works for most any phone receiving SMS text and text with attachments

as well as voice sender spoofing.

Just a quick easily searched sampling on the subject....

http://www.ehow.com/...e-spoofing.html

http://www.ehow.com/...bile-phone.html

http://www.squidoo.c...poofingcallerid

http://www.androidzo...lications/spoof

http://appfinder.lis...c-spoofing.html

"we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around."

Indeed.

Though spoofing works surely, if that had happenned, Nutt would be shouting it from the rooftops rather than saying a friend sent it to him.

[animatic]

quote name='Orac' timestamp='1335751619' post='5261412'

As a bit of idle speculation about an event of very little importance being blown out of all proportion, since Nutt has already stated that the picture was sent to him by a friend to tease him, which incidentally tends to blow the conspiracy theory that it is an evil plan to discredit him out of the water, maybe this friend was someone who was also in the house at the time. If this were the case and pornographic pictures were being shared amongst MPs could one of them have not shared it to the wrong place via DNLA and inadvertently sent it to the TV screen.

Either way surely the obvious question if they are making any attempt at all to investigate it is to ask Nutt who sent him the picture???

True, that point is shrouded in silence.

Of course there are Apps that can "SPOOF" someones phone adress

and people THINK it comes from a friend when it has not.

This technique was shown on last weeks ' Fairly Legal ' show.

If it is being used on TV plots it is certainly well known in the technical world

I highly doubt the phones would send to each other,

and "accidentally" be seen on the big screen also.

Different IP address, and calling for directing it to that address.

I am not sure how the iphone works with regards to sharing but the android/samsung I have has an option to share which, when pressed, brings up a list of available devices set up for DNLA/allshare connected to that wireless network. Maybe someone just picked the wrong device or even did it on purpose to see what would happen - we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around.

Spoofing works for most any phone receiving SMS text and text with attachments

as well as voice sender spoofing.

Just a quick easily searched sampling on the subject....

http://www.ehow.com/...e-spoofing.html

http://www.ehow.com/...bile-phone.html

http://www.squidoo.c...poofingcallerid

http://www.androidzo...lications/spoof

http://appfinder.lis...c-spoofing.html

"we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around."

Indeed.

Though spoofing works surely, if that had happenned, Nutt would be shouting it from the rooftops rather than saying a friend sent it to him.

If he understands this.... he may well still believe his 'friend' did this

and has stopped talking to him for 'getting him in trouble'. Noting your comment again

"we are after all talking about thai MPs so maybe not the brightest sparks around."

Edited April 30, 2012 by animatic

[whybother]

He's admitted looking at porn. There is no evidence that it was him that caused the picture up on the big screen, except for the fact that he was looking at porn and it is possible for his phone to put it up on the screen.

86 others were using their phones on the network. One of them may have been the one sending Nutt the photo. Maybe one of them had been sent the same photos as Nutt.

Maybe all 86 MPs should go outside and hang themselves.

[samsiam]

The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo. That is their true unedited heart.

*50 people like this post*

That is a lie.

In any case I don't post for thumbs-up, I'm more interested in the issue itself, apparently unlike you. I posted this because I'm genuinely disgusted that a government member can tell a young man to hang himself over a porn picture. To me that is the real crime, not the technology used or how it got on screens or into a phone, those things are just arguments over a porn picture, to me the issue is that somebody in the Govt wants this guy to hang himself over it.

Think they meant 'do a grasshopper'

[animatic]

He's admitted looking at porn. There is no evidence that it was him that caused the picture up on the big screen, except for the fact that he was looking at porn and it is possible for his phone to put it up on the screen.

86 others were using their phones on the network. One of them may have been the one sending Nutt the photo. Maybe one of them had been sent the same photos as Nutt.

Maybe all 86 MPs should go outside and hang themselves.

I think he admitted opening an image that turned out to be porn.

I don't remember him saying he was INTENTIONALLY doing it.

Yes, I opened an image in Parliament and saw that it was porn.

is different than

I was looking at porn images for my pleasure in parliament, and got caught.

Edited April 30, 2012 by animatic

[AZBill]

Seems it took them a week to find a way to do it....

And nothing is said about needing passwords or anything of the technique involved.

Ah, but was it the same photo?

And was HE sent a photo at the same time thinking it innocent,

and then opens it to find someone is right behind him to take a picture.

The whole business smells rancid to the core.

an mp caught looking at naughty pics on his phone on the same day that a naughty pic just happened to be displayed on the screen... yeah, has to be a set up.

what evil genius thought of this plan i wonder?

maybe thaksin is laughing maniacally while he strokes a cat.

"that's the democrats finished with...muahahahaha"

The key phrase being "caught" looking at porn. How many other MP's were looking at porn and were not caught? I think I would rather have an MP having a quick scan of a bit of porn during a debate, than an MP debating on crucial matters while he is pissed.

Or just plain asleep!

[Yunla]

i meant, this kind of nonsense "The only honest thing PTP have said since they came to office is they want a healthy young man to hang himself over a saucy photo." is sure to be popular on here.

unless you truly believe that as a statement of fact of course.

I do actually, because all their policy statements turned out to be lies except for the giving themselves big pay-rises and bringing back a ghost from the past to haunt everybody. PTP are scam-artists & when one of that gang of brigands accidentally tells the truth like Pheu Thai MP Prasit Chaisrisa did, it shows the festering rotten core of the shiny apple that was sold to you.

you're more interested in the issue itself? then maybe go to the thread where they mention about the 'hanging statement' because judging by your post, you don't seem concerned whatsoever about the issue of this thread.

Actually my point of posting here is that I don't see what it matters who sent him the sugar-shot or what medium uploaded the other image onto the bigscreen. Those issues can be dealt with by apologies from Nutt & a small fine paid for opening personal mail during work (unlike Yingluck who uses her mobile at royal funerals), a thorough IT security review for that building, and an earnest effort for future media-breaches to be avoided. Its a simple thing to just get an apology, hand out a fine & ensure the room monitors are secure in future and just move on. Its so obvious that this is non-story. That is why I was pointing out that when PTP Prasit Chaisrisa tells Nutt to hang himself - that becomes the actual story. Even telling him to resign over a porn picture is a huge over-reaction, especially when PTPs own recondite leader is on the run from the law for grand larceny.

yep, disgusting thing to say.. i may differ in your opinion about him literally wanting the guy to hang himself as you're suggesting but i'm not here to defend the statement as anything other than despicable.

If Prasit Chaisrisa meant it as a joke he should have said that afterwards when he realised that nobody was laughing. He could have followed it up with a public apology to families of people who have hanged themselves, that he finds their tragic situation a comedy matter.

Edited April 30, 2012 by Yunla

[Docno]

Occam's Razor (or the Law of Parsimony), a basic principle of scientific reasoning, says that one should always go with the simplest explanation that requires the fewest assumptions. There are a lot of conspiracy theories being batted about here, most of which are quite convoluted. Entertaining to read nonetheless. That said, it is a huge coincidence that an MP is seen enjoying some porn during the session that a pornographic image is projected on screen. [To say that his phone may have been hijacked or spoofed or that many other MPs were probably also looking at porn... well, these are the sort of assumptions that old Occam would have had trouble with.]

[tragickingdom]

Who cares? Watching to the Thai elite i the same as watching porn.

[sparebox2]

Khun Nutt misconduct must be investigated and punished.

The half dress girl shown fingering herself should be identified and fine 500 Baht.

[asdecas]

Clearly another case for Constable Chalerm, or one of his repulsive sons.

[bushman1666]

A naked woman in Bangkok. Shock horror!!!!!!

Wonder how many of these elected sleaze balls have interests in massage parlous or Go Go Bars in Bangkok!

Corrupt tossers the lot of them!

[thaicbr]

Who cares? Watching to the Thai elite i the same as watching porn.

ahhhh the Thai elite... who are they exactly. the large business families? the politicians (who also come from the large business families). the Royalty.

I keep hearing this Thai elite crap and it always makes me wonder.... In my view the Elitist Thai's tend to be the politicians who really have NO CLUE how real people live.

[belg]

somebody just playing with his toy he got for free, forgot the 50 millions for free iphone and ipad for all mp's ???

[how241]

This is really a non-story. All politics.

[Puccini]

From the OP:

...Close the same time, Democrat MP Nutt Bantadtan was seen viewing a pornographic photo on his iPhone smart phone...

Pornography, as defined by The Nation and other news media: "A photo of a fully dressed woman, low neckline, showing the lower part of her nickers."

[TeddyFlyfisherDavis]

How long can they drag this one out...Hmmmm...Lets count the weeks...

[volk666]

Nutt was looking at that pic NOT at the same time as another photo was flashed on parliament TV screens, it was "on the same day".

If I was browsing my phone and saw "send image to TV" option I would have done it just to see if it works. A rather innocent prank and yeah, good luck trying to figure out who did this as TVs generally do not record and store incoming connections.

I wouldn't personally try to share porn and go for some funny cat pix instead, everybody loves those.

Simple proof that Nutt didn't send the picture would be checking if the necessary app is installed on his iPhone. Android phones, on the other hand, might use generic DLNA sharing option available in each and every app, like those on Samsung tablets they used for testing three days ago.

TiT, no one cares if someone seriously think a man should hang himself for looking at a picture not censored even on newspaper websites. Expressing a wish in parliament for someone to hang himself should be an issue but it isn't.