Why Is There No Passport Control To Leave The Us, As There Is In Other Countries?

[chubby]

why is there no passport control to leave the US, as there is in other countries? like thailand

[Lite Beer]

U.K does not check Passports on leaving either.

[Mugg]

U.K does not check Passports on leaving either.

Is this a US Passport you are trying to show someone before leaving the US ? Passports are used to enter another country other than your native country. Or to show immigration upon arrival where you have been. Are you looking for a Nod from someone to travel?

[Mugg]

Sorry Lite beer I posted on your post my bad

[chubby]

i can't see that anyone's passports US or alien are check when leaving US for international destinations

U.K does not check Passports on leaving either.

Is this a US Passport you are trying to show someone before leaving the US ? Passports are used to enter another country other than your native country. Or to show immigration upon arrival where you have been. Are you looking for a Nod from someone to travel?

[WilliamCave]

There is no passport control in Canada when leaving also only on arrival in to the country and when going to the US it is like a drive through easy to get in to for Canadians

[7by7]

I don't know the reason for other countries, but in the UK routine passport checks on leaving were abolished as a cost cutting measure!

[VisasPlus]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

[willyumcr]

In the U.S. all passports are checked by the airline when leaving for visa requirements to foreign and also the information (passport number) is put into the airline computer which if there is a flag is passed on to Immigration and for sure you will be stopped if there is an overstay or other problem.

[chubby]

but there is no immigration line to pass through for anyone, so when does immigration intervene, say for an overstay

BangkokDan ‏ @BangkokDan

BTW, when leaving the U.S. recently immigration didn't even check visa stamp or when I had entered the country. Unimaginable in TH - why?!

In the U.S. all passports are checked by the airline when leaving for visa requirements to foreign and also the information (passport number) is put into the airline computer which if there is a flag is passed on to Immigration and for sure you will be stopped if there is an overstay or other problem.

[thaihome]

but there is no immigration line to pass through for anyone, so when does immigration intervene, say for an overstay

BangkokDan ‏ @BangkokDan

BTW, when leaving the U.S. recently immigration didn't even check visa stamp or when I had entered the country. Unimaginable in TH - why?!

In the U.S. all passports are checked by the airline when leaving for visa requirements to foreign and also the information (passport number) is put into the airline computer which if there is a flag is passed on to Immigration and for sure you will be stopped if there is an overstay or other problem.

There is no overstay fine in the US. You can be barred from re-entry or being issued another visa or arrested and deported if found to have overstayed. The check on that is the depature card that the airlines take when checking in or you give to immigration at exit check point for land borders. As others have said, this is matched against entry records later.

They don't care if you overstayed and you are leaving, but there is a very good chance it will impact you if you try io enter again or apply for a visa.

TH

[willyumcr]

As far as I know there is no departure card you need to leave US. My wife is a Green Card and only shows her passport with Visa stamp when flying out to airllines

[thaihome]

As far as I know there is no departure card you need to leave US. My wife is a Green Card and only shows her passport with Visa stamp when flying out to airllines

US citizens and PR (green card) holders do not do a arrival/depature Form I-94. Non-Immigrant Visa holders and visa exempt entries do. It is a two part card and you must return the depature section when leaving. Failure to do so can impact your next attempted entry.

TH

[willyumcr]

As far as I know there is no departure card you need to leave US. My wife is a Green Card and only shows her passport with Visa stamp when flying out to airllines

US citizens and PR (green card) holders do not do a arrival/depature Form I-94. Non-Immigrant Visa holders and visa exempt entries do. It is a two part card and you must return the depature section when leaving. Failure to do so can impact your next attempted entry.

TH

As far as I know there is no departure card you need to leave US. My wife is a Green Card and only shows her passport with Visa stamp when flying out to airllines

US citizens and PR (green card) holders do not do a arrival/depature Form I-94. Non-Immigrant Visa holders and visa exempt entries do. It is a two part card and you must return the depature section when leaving. Failure to do so can impact your next attempted entry.

TH

You are correct TH. I stand corrected.

[CiaranO]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

why would thailand do the same? They would be loosing all that money from over stayers.

[NewlyMintedThai]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

why would thailand do the same? They would be loosing all that money from over stayers.

Do you really think that overstay fines produce a profit after subtracting the expense of manning departure desks 24/7?

[steelepulse]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

why would thailand do the same? They would be loosing all that money from over stayers.

Do you really think that overstay fines produce a profit after subtracting the expense of manning departure desks 24/7?

Aren't they manning the desks already?

[samran]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

why would thailand do the same? They would be loosing all that money from over stayers.

While you have a warped sense of Thailand's budgetary position (one of the largest O&G sectors in SE Asia anyone??) you might be onto something.

In the US, overstayers are basically banned for a number of years, based on these departure slips which need to be handed back. They just get turned around and sent home the next time they try and enter.

So yes, there is some merit to the US approach.

[CiaranO]

Unless things have changed ( and they probably have), the US has/had a two part immigration card. The "Departure" card was stapled into your passport. It was the airline's responsibility to retain the card, and pass it to INS. The card details were then checked against the arrival database. An arrival without a matching departure was eventually shown as an overstayer in the USA.

Maybe Thailand could do the same ! Might speed things up a bit on departure from the country.

why would thailand do the same? They would be loosing all that money from over stayers.

Do you really think that overstay fines produce a profit after subtracting the expense of manning departure desks 24/7?

Aren't they manning the desks already?

agreed they are manning the desks already.....airports, land borders etc.......and if the US adopted such an approach they would make a fortune. Imagine a guy who overstayed by 10 years lol...

[NewlyMintedThai]

I thought the proposal was to remove the exit inspection altogether, which would save millions and millions in operating expenses. Much more than what would ostensibly be lost in uncollected overstay fees.

[haveaniceday]

In the US, I always make a note in my PP of the date, flt number and route (or border crossing) from USA.