Poll: Would It Be Good For Business In Thailand To Change The Name To Siam?

[KeyserSoze01]

Huh?

What possible difference would the name of a country make to its general economic wellbeing and the state of its business environment?

Image.

Thailand has image problems from the past.

Sex tourist haven, tsunami, financial crisis, land of scams, land of IP theft, floods, corruption, riots, coups, etc.

Siam is a beautiful word. It evokes romance and exoticism. It is short and sweet, perfect for a corporate rebranding ... of a country. It's old. It's new. It's everything.

All the old baggage, the hooker jokes, just don't work the same with the word Siamese instead of Thai.

So I reckon it could potentially (if marketed cleverly) create a boom in more quality tourism and foreign investment. People who hadn't thought about Thailand recently would need to pay attention. Instead of a change from something elegant like Burma to something kludgy like Myanmar, you get a change from something kind of dull and out place which sounds like it was invented by a fascist dictator, Thailand (land isn't a Thai word) to something sexy ... again, in a good way.

Bendix, I realize you are Mr. Logical Left Brainer and probably won't buy any of that, but there's my case!

The reasons you quote for disbanding the country of Thailand simply does not make sense and what would be the point anyway.

Sex tourist haven: Mostly exaggerated hyped up narratives from the Western media to discredit Thailand. What about the red light districts of Holland and Germany, the legal brothels of Sydney, Australia and in some States of America.

Tsunami: I think Japan beats Thailand hands down on the tsunami front and considering they sided with Hitler during WW2, than Japan definitely has more reasons to change it`s name than Thailand.

Financial crisis: The American Wall Street crash comes into mind, which had a knock on affect to most of the world. That sure takes some beating.

Land of scams: I believe Nigeria overtook Thailand in the scams department years ago. These days only need to mention the word scams and Nigeria always comes to mind.

Land of IP theft: I would guess that again Nigeria is the world leader in ID theft, probably closely followed by Russia and the Philippines.

Floods: due to global warming, flooding is now a worldwide phenomenon. Taking another educated guess, I would say extreme natural disasters in China, the Philippines, Indonesia and India probably well out number those in Thailand.

Corruption: Compared to some African nations, India, South American countries and a few Middle Eastern countries, I would say Thailand is well down the list.

Riots: England and Greece have experienced the crem della crem of all riots recently, making the Bangkok riots appear insignificant in compassion.

Coups: I’ll give you that one. Yes, Thailand has become illustrious for it`s coups.

I cannot see any Significance for Thailand to revert back to it`s old imperial name of Siam. That would be taking the country backwards not forward.

Yeah, but name one other country that is known for ALL of those things.

[KeyserSoze01]

Diba?

Tagalog slang for "do you agree".

[mca]

Riots: England and Greece have experienced the crem della crem of all riots recently, making the Bangkok riots appear insignificant in compassion

To be honest mate I didn't see armed soldiers and civilians having pitched battles in the streets with automatic weapons resulting in dozens of deaths or rebel army leaders being taken out by snipers during the British riots.

[mca]

Diba?

Tagalog slang for "do you agree".

cheers

[Jingthing]

Huh?

What possible difference would the name of a country make to its general economic wellbeing and the state of its business environment?

Image.

Thailand has image problems from the past.

Sex tourist haven, tsunami, financial crisis, land of scams, land of IP theft, floods, corruption, riots, coups, etc.

Siam is a beautiful word. It evokes romance and exoticism. It is short and sweet, perfect for a corporate rebranding ... of a country. It's old. It's new. It's everything.

All the old baggage, the hooker jokes, just don't work the same with the word Siamese instead of Thai.

Rather difficult to change the image of Thailand with a name change, unless all the underlying problems you note are removed too, diba?

Marketing has little to do with fundamental reality. However I think in practicality such historic rebrandings generally occur linked to a major political events/changes. Edited May 18, 2012 by Jingthing

[theblether]

"Some poster" who I'd prefer if he remained anonymous suggested that rebranding the nation would cause civil unrest. Possibly, but supposing if the change was properly approved through democratic legal channels, its not clear to me who would feel disenfranchised by such a name change. Just talking a rebranding back to an older name, not a new country, not new borders, not a new governing system. Actually not unprecedented in recent history ... in Southeast Asia.

"Some poster" ?????

What's that meant to mean?............it was clearly me that stated that would be the case. I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing. You made a series of assertions earlier in this topic and dealt with them all directly.

I think you are suffering from an excess of self regard and a shortage of self awareness and good grace. In fact I would go as far as to say narcissism, get over yourself, your merely a member, not a god.

Anyway, as I stated earlier, you go right ahead and stand in front of a TV camera and tell Thailand it has to change it's name because it's a country of sex tourists, corruption, floods blah blah blah. Let us know when you arrange it and we'll all tune in.

[Jingthing]

"Some poster" who I'd prefer if he remained anonymous suggested that rebranding the nation would cause civil unrest. Possibly, but supposing if the change was properly approved through democratic legal channels, its not clear to me who would feel disenfranchised by such a name change. Just talking a rebranding back to an older name, not a new country, not new borders, not a new governing system. Actually not unprecedented in recent history ... in Southeast Asia.

"Some poster" ?????

What's that meant to mean?............it was clearly me that stated that would be the case. I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing. You made a series of assertions earlier in this topic and dealt with them all directly.

I think you are suffering from an excess of self regard and a shortage of self awareness and good grace. In fact I would go as far as to say narcissism, get over yourself, your merely a member, not a god.

Anyway, as I stated earlier, you go right ahead and stand in front of a TV camera and tell Thailand it has to change it's name because it's a country of sex tourists, corruption, floods blah blah blah. Let us know when you arrange it and we'll all tune in.

Thanks for sharing your trollish post. Now back to the topic ...

Which is what it is. Not about me. I hope you get the point, but I know you don't.

Edited May 19, 2012 by Jingthing

[theblether]

"Some poster" who I'd prefer if he remained anonymous suggested that rebranding the nation would cause civil unrest. Possibly, but supposing if the change was properly approved through democratic legal channels, its not clear to me who would feel disenfranchised by such a name change. Just talking a rebranding back to an older name, not a new country, not new borders, not a new governing system. Actually not unprecedented in recent history ... in Southeast Asia.

"Some poster" ?????

What's that meant to mean?............it was clearly me that stated that would be the case. I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing. You made a series of assertions earlier in this topic and dealt with them all directly.

I think you are suffering from an excess of self regard and a shortage of self awareness and good grace. In fact I would go as far as to say narcissism, get over yourself, your merely a member, not a god.

Anyway, as I stated earlier, you go right ahead and stand in front of a TV camera and tell Thailand it has to change it's name because it's a country of sex tourists, corruption, floods blah blah blah. Let us know when you arrange it and we'll all tune in.

Thanks for sharing your trollish post. Now back to the topic ...

Which is what it is. Not about me. I hope you get the point, but I know you don't.

I rest my case.

[Jingthing]

"Some poster" who I'd prefer if he remained anonymous suggested that rebranding the nation would cause civil unrest. Possibly, but supposing if the change was properly approved through democratic legal channels, its not clear to me who would feel disenfranchised by such a name change. Just talking a rebranding back to an older name, not a new country, not new borders, not a new governing system. Actually not unprecedented in recent history ... in Southeast Asia.

"Some poster" ?????

What's that meant to mean?............it was clearly me that stated that would be the case. I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing. You made a series of assertions earlier in this topic and dealt with them all directly.

I think you are suffering from an excess of self regard and a shortage of self awareness and good grace. In fact I would go as far as to say narcissism, get over yourself, your merely a member, not a god.

Anyway, as I stated earlier, you go right ahead and stand in front of a TV camera and tell Thailand it has to change it's name because it's a country of sex tourists, corruption, floods blah blah blah. Let us know when you arrange it and we'll all tune in.

Thanks for sharing your trollish post. Now back to the topic ...

Which is what it is. Not about me. I hope you get the point, but I know you don't.

I rest my case.

Good news! I hope you're done now because this is getting annoying.

Maybe I should be flattered that you seem so interested in talking about ME rather than topics, but really, I'm not.

How about this? Why not start a topic about me in Farang Pub or the Bedlam section? Then (if the mods allow ) all of your or anyone's fascination about me can be focused there in one place (and leave it out of the rest of forum)? Sounds OK to me.

Edited May 19, 2012 by Jingthing

[samsiam]

I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing.

He'll end up in a tizz and then "Conversation" with blether has reached its end"......

[samsiam]

Good news! I hope you're done now because this is getting annoying.

Maybe I should be flattered that you seem so interested in talking about ME rather than topics, but really, I'm not.

How about this? Why not start a topic about me in Farang Pub or the Bedlam section? Then (if the mods allow ) all of your or anyone's fascination about me can be focused there in one place (and leave it out of the rest of forum)? Sounds OK to me.

Yeah but the rules made for some will get in the way.

[theblether]

I get the impression that you don't like people disagreeing with you Jingthing.

He'll end up in a tizz and then "Conversation" with blether has reached its end"......

Then you get the full hysterical JT treatment when he bombards you with pm's, he sometimes regrets it and delete's them, but little does he know that even after deletion we can still read them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

JT, it's an open forum, we are allowed to disagree.

[Jingthing]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

[smokie36]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

That one has been done repeatedly already as you well know!

[Jingthing]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

That one has been done repeatedly already as you well know!

Maybe I should cash in with my own website?

[theblether]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

That one has been done repeatedly already as you well know!

Maybe I should cash in with my own website?

Please do. ........I mean, really, please

[smokie36]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

That one has been done repeatedly already as you well know!

Maybe I should cash in with my own website?

Yeah we would all be popping in to have a pop or whatever!

Siam is more exotic I reckon...let's change the title to Siam Visa.

I'll let you discuss it with George...I think he's had enough of me this month already....

[theblether]

Shall I ask a mod to change the topic name to "Let's Talk About Jingthing?"

That one has been done repeatedly already as you well know!

Maybe I should cash in with my own website?

Yeah we would all be popping in to have a pop or whatever!

Siam is more exotic I reckon...let's change the title to Siam Visa.

I'll let you discuss it with George...I think he's had enough of me this month already....

You could picture JT as a mod on his own website, it would be carnage!!!

JT, stop taking yourself so seriously

[thaifkrlim]

i think it is good for business if you change your name to Robert de Niro

[Scott]

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