Lite Beer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Red shirts call for justice Pravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday BANGKOK:-- Leaders mark 2010 crackdown; voice upset at govt inaction; Ratchaprasong crowd estimated at tens of thousands; CentralWorld, Gaysorn forced to close Up to 50,000 red shirts flooded the Ratchaprasong in-tersection yesterday to mark the second anniversary of the deadly crackdown on red-shirt protesters by the Abhisit Vejjajiva administration in 2010, which ended in 93 deaths and more than 2,000 injuries on all sides, most of them red shirts. They called for justice for those who were killed in April and May two years ago, and for the release of dozens of red shirts still in jail, mostly for defying the emergency decree or on charges of setting fire to buildings in Bangkok and beyond in the aftermath of the crackdown. Some also called for the release of lese majeste detainees and the reform or abolition of the law. The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert, a red-shirt medical doctor and radiologist and a member of the Red Chorus, a group of red-shirt singers. discontent with government Veera added, however, that the reds had also gathered in high numbers because of the perception that the Yingluck Shinawatra administration isn't doing anything to democratise the country, and was concentrating instead on economic issues. "How can we reconcile when there're still distortions [about what happened two years ago]?" asked Veera, adding that the government's stance to not touch the lese majeste law is also a source of disappointment among red shirts. Thousands swamped the paved area outside CentralWorld, which was partly burned down two years ago. The crowds forced the mall to shut down at 3pm along with the highbrow Gaysorn Plaza, which is located on the other side of the intersection. "People are here today because they feel justice has yet to prevail," said Red Sunday group leader Sombat Boon-ngam-anong. Sombat said dozens of red shirts are still in jail, while today protesters of other political colours are out on bail and people like Abhisit and his deputy for security, Suthep Thaugsuban, are free and talking on television. -- The Nation 2012-05-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moruya Posted May 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2012 Khun Sombat, do you believe that Thaksin should still be free? What about those who incited the burning of Bangkok and provincial town halls? The burning of Muslim mosques, Siriraj Hospital etc. Should they be free? Until I hear a red shirt accept responsibility for their actions they will in my eyes just be a bunch of thugs on Thaksin's payroll Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Thaivisa Connect App 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If they get it, they will call for murder (again). "......Yingluck Shinawatra administration isn't doing anything to democratise the country, and was concentrating instead on economic issues." Consider ourselves lucky. If she did to democracy what she's doing to the economy................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Priceless Posted May 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2012 'Red shirts call for justice' A good start would be to lock upp the leaders who incited the riots and burning. How about a life sentence each for e.g. Natthawut and Jatuporn? / Priceless PS And yes, the PAD morons who occupied the airports should be subjected to the same thing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justicePravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday ... The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert. Umm ... One year ago, PTP were in power. Sent from my shoe phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justicePravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday ... The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert. Umm ... One year ago, PTP were in power. Sent from my shoe phone Really....................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priceless Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justicePravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday ... The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert. Umm ... One year ago, PTP were in power. Sent from my shoe phone In what country? / Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseedaa Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justicePravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday ... The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert. Umm ... One year ago, PTP were in power. Sent from my shoe phone Really....................? cobblers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justicePravit Rojanaphruk The Nation on Sunday ... The mood was different from a similar event held one year ago, as the Pheu Thai Party is now in power - thanks to the red shirts' support. Some of the group's leaders are now MPs and one is a minister. "Last year there was still a climate of fear. Today, we can freely express ourselves," said Veera Siriprasert. Umm ... One year ago, PTP were in power. Sent from my shoe phone Really....................? Oops ... I was thinking September 19. My bad ... Sent from my shoe phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 A good call for justice would be putting those responsible for the protests in jail. Especially those who advocated violence and the burning of Bangkok. But we know they won't accept responsibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted May 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. To sweeten the pot, news this afternoon reveals that the Cabinet today approved a proposal that the 7.4 million baht they receive in compensation is now tax-exempt. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. I don't quarrel with your comment that Thaksin and at least an element of the red shirts want different things.If I may say so it is a rather commonplace observation with the homecoming/reconciliation/justice dynamic having been the subject of public and private discussion for months. However I doubt whether Thaksin is as concerned as you suggest or would like to think about further probes.He wants a settlement, or rather a final settlement since some of the key ingredients are already in place including the return under the Abhisit government of part of the Thaksin fortune.It is generally assumed that there were renegade soldiers (some would describe them more generously) working with the UDD - so that is hardly a surprise.As for the black shirts they remain mysterious despite all efforts to track them down and discover their origin.If there was ever a "smoking gun", surely the black shirts were it - and yet the enemies of Thaksin have come up with zilch.You assume I suppose Thaksin was the funding source along with many bar flies, but the fact remains that you actually haven't the faintest idea - along with the rest of us though we may have our suspicions.I'm afraid I find your attitude slightly hysterical but it may be you simply wish to distract attention from those army and political figures who would genuinely kee taek if there was a thorough inquiry: they nearly vaporised when the decent but provisional HRW report was published. As it happens they are unlikely to have to face up to this nightmare because Thaksin's interest is shutting down the investigation is aligned with theirs.So I don't deny Thaksin's deep cynicism or the betrayal of the redshirts reasonable demand for a just accounting.But your suggestion that Thaksin's motivation is fear of any investigation outcome doesn't really convince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red Shirt calls for"justice" Thaksin says "Unity before justice" Not much unity there,is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. I don't quarrel with your comment that Thaksin and at least an element of the red shirts want different things.If I may say so it is a rather commonplace observation with the homecoming/reconciliation/justice dynamic having been the subject of public and private discussion for months. However I doubt whether Thaksin is as concerned as you suggest or would like to think about further probes.He wants a settlement, or rather a final settlement since some of the key ingredients are already in place including the return under the Abhisit government of part of the Thaksin fortune.It is generally assumed that there were renegade soldiers (some would describe them more generously) working with the UDD - so that is hardly a surprise.As for the black shirts they remain mysterious despite all efforts to track them down and discover their origin.If there was ever a "smoking gun", surely the black shirts were it - and yet the enemies of Thaksin have come up with zilch.You assume I suppose Thaksin was the funding source along with many bar flies, but the fact remains that you actually haven't the faintest idea - along with the rest of us though we may have our suspicions.I'm afraid I find your attitude slightly hysterical but it may be you simply wish to distract attention from those army and political figures who would genuinely kee taek if there was a thorough inquiry: they nearly vaporised when the decent but provisional HRW report was published. As it happens they are unlikely to have to face up to this nightmare because Thaksin's interest is shutting down the investigation is aligned with theirs.So I don't deny Thaksin's deep cynicism or the betrayal of the redshirts reasonable demand for a just accounting.But your suggestion that Thaksin's motivation is fear of any investigation outcome doesn't really convince. Why worry when the morally malleable Tharit is in charge of the DSI? If he can change the definition of perjury, something as complicated as this will be easy to obfuscate and distort.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. I don't quarrel with your comment that Thaksin and at least an element of the red shirts want different things.If I may say so it is a rather commonplace observation with the homecoming/reconciliation/justice dynamic having been the subject of public and private discussion for months. However I doubt whether Thaksin is as concerned as you suggest or would like to think about further probes.He wants a settlement, or rather a final settlement since some of the key ingredients are already in place including the return under the Abhisit government of part of the Thaksin fortune.It is generally assumed that there were renegade soldiers (some would describe them more generously) working with the UDD - so that is hardly a surprise.As for the black shirts they remain mysterious despite all efforts to track them down and discover their origin.If there was ever a "smoking gun", surely the black shirts were it - and yet the enemies of Thaksin have come up with zilch.You assume I suppose Thaksin was the funding source along with many bar flies, but the fact remains that you actually haven't the faintest idea - along with the rest of us though we may have our suspicions.I'm afraid I find your attitude slightly hysterical but it may be you simply wish to distract attention from those army and political figures who would genuinely kee taek if there was a thorough inquiry: they nearly vaporised when the decent but provisional HRW report was published. As it happens they are unlikely to have to face up to this nightmare because Thaksin's interest is shutting down the investigation is aligned with theirs.So I don't deny Thaksin's deep cynicism or the betrayal of the redshirts reasonable demand for a just accounting.But your suggestion that Thaksin's motivation is fear of any investigation outcome doesn't really convince. I suggest the court's seizure of 1.4 billion dollars of Thaksin's money in February 2010 gave Thaksin ample incentive to support the red shirt riots to retrieve his money just 2 months later Do you think the renegade soldiers, which you say are generally assumed to have been working with Thaksin, could have shot the red shirts to discredit the army? What is a bar fly and why would they be a funding source along with Thaksin? Apisit and Suthep have stated several times they are willing to go to court regarding Rachaprasong, so why is Thaksin so unwilling to let the truth come out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. I don't quarrel with your comment that Thaksin and at least an element of the red shirts want different things.If I may say so it is a rather commonplace observation with the homecoming/reconciliation/justice dynamic having been the subject of public and private discussion for months. However I doubt whether Thaksin is as concerned as you suggest or would like to think about further probes.He wants a settlement, or rather a final settlement since some of the key ingredients are already in place including the return under the Abhisit government of part of the Thaksin fortune.It is generally assumed that there were renegade soldiers (some would describe them more generously) working with the UDD - so that is hardly a surprise.As for the black shirts they remain mysterious despite all efforts to track them down and discover their origin.If there was ever a "smoking gun", surely the black shirts were it - and yet the enemies of Thaksin have come up with zilch.You assume I suppose Thaksin was the funding source along with many bar flies, but the fact remains that you actually haven't the faintest idea - along with the rest of us though we may have our suspicions.I'm afraid I find your attitude slightly hysterical but it may be you simply wish to distract attention from those army and political figures who would genuinely kee taek if there was a thorough inquiry: they nearly vaporised when the decent but provisional HRW report was published. As it happens they are unlikely to have to face up to this nightmare because Thaksin's interest is shutting down the investigation is aligned with theirs.So I don't deny Thaksin's deep cynicism or the betrayal of the redshirts reasonable demand for a just accounting.But your suggestion that Thaksin's motivation is fear of any investigation outcome doesn't really convince. I suggest the court's seizure of 1.4 billion dollars of Thaksin's money in February 2010 gave Thaksin ample incentive to support the red shirt riots to retrieve his money just 2 months later Do you think the renegade soldiers, which you say are generally assumed to have been working with Thaksin, could have shot the red shirts to discredit the army? What is a bar fly and why would they be a funding source along with Thaksin? Apisit and Suthep have stated several times they are willing to go to court regarding Rachaprasong, so why is Thaksin so unwilling to let the truth come out? You seem a little confused if I may say so. 1.In the context of the deal with Thaksin the partial return of funds was unrelated to the events in early 2010.If anything they surely hurt his case.But who knows exactly why the elite decided to return the money? 2.Please re-read the reference to bar flies.It doesn't refer to funding sources but is simply shorthand for those who indulge in fairly insubstantive Daily Mail/National Enquirer chatter which takes place at bars sometimes (and elsewhere). 3.No I don't think renegade soldiers could have shot redshirts to discredit the army (See note above about mindless chatter). 4.I'm sure have all have skeletons in their cupboards.But I don't see that Thaksin is any less keen to bury the truth than the two you mention.None have a good record for honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red Shirts ask for justice well keep asking and maybe someday you will hear an echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gand Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The only true justice would be to hold the red/black shirts & Thaksin responsible for all the deaths in the failed coup attempt of 2010. When you bring weapons on a peace protest, it is NOT a peace protest, it is an assault, a crime and they are responsible for ALL the deaths that then ensued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letitbe Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 they will get justice they deserve when they see they have been completely done like a kipper by their hero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Red shirts call for justice under the misapprehension that they did nothing wrong. You might think that when they see their brothers in arms getting rest of life sentences, they might understand. Here's a hint - Thida's opinion is worth SFA compared to a judge's. Perhaps when/if fat-arse Arisman and the grinning idiot Jatuporn get an "Advance to Go" on their next reincarnation, they might stop calling for justice and start calling for forgiveness. It's a pity that under the law, ignorance is no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. I don't quarrel with your comment that Thaksin and at least an element of the red shirts want different things.If I may say so it is a rather commonplace observation with the homecoming/reconciliation/justice dynamic having been the subject of public and private discussion for months. However I doubt whether Thaksin is as concerned as you suggest or would like to think about further probes.He wants a settlement, or rather a final settlement since some of the key ingredients are already in place including the return under the Abhisit government of part of the Thaksin fortune.It is generally assumed that there were renegade soldiers (some would describe them more generously) working with the UDD - so that is hardly a surprise.As for the black shirts they remain mysterious despite all efforts to track them down and discover their origin.If there was ever a "smoking gun", surely the black shirts were it - and yet the enemies of Thaksin have come up with zilch.You assume I suppose Thaksin was the funding source along with many bar flies, but the fact remains that you actually haven't the faintest idea - along with the rest of us though we may have our suspicions.I'm afraid I find your attitude slightly hysterical but it may be you simply wish to distract attention from those army and political figures who would genuinely kee taek if there was a thorough inquiry: they nearly vaporised when the decent but provisional HRW report was published. As it happens they are unlikely to have to face up to this nightmare because Thaksin's interest is shutting down the investigation is aligned with theirs.So I don't deny Thaksin's deep cynicism or the betrayal of the redshirts reasonable demand for a just accounting.But your suggestion that Thaksin's motivation is fear of any investigation outcome doesn't really convince. I suggest the court's seizure of 1.4 billion dollars of Thaksin's money in February 2010 gave Thaksin ample incentive to support the red shirt riots to retrieve his money just 2 months later Do you think the renegade soldiers, which you say are generally assumed to have been working with Thaksin, could have shot the red shirts to discredit the army? What is a bar fly and why would they be a funding source along with Thaksin? Apisit and Suthep have stated several times they are willing to go to court regarding Rachaprasong, so why is Thaksin so unwilling to let the truth come out? That's a easy one he knows the truth and they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 What do they propose would be justice for the two big businesses that had to shut down because of them? Will they compensate them? Simple answer NO they are red shirts above the law and lesser mortals. If you don't believe me just ask them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 An off topic post has been removed as well as some discussions regarding other member's personalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 What is Ghost Busters number anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moruya Posted May 21, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2012 Food for thought. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democrat Government instructs the Royal Thai Army to shoot in self defence RTA loads some weapons with live rounds Armed protesters attack RTA RTA returns fire and protesters are killed or injured. Whose is to blame? Government? Army? Protesters? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Red Shirts have armed protesters among them - black shirts or whatever Armed protesters shoot weapons, grenades and kill armed forces. Who is to blame? Black shirts? Red Shirt leaders? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 85 people are arrested by police and army, tied up, kicked and in some cases shot Those captured are now stacked in a truck with limited ventilation. 85 dead Who is responsible? Government? Army? Police? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. To sweeten the pot, news this afternoon reveals that the Cabinet today approved a proposal that the 7.4 million baht they receive in compensation is now tax-exempt. . Oh what a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. To sweeten the pot, news this afternoon reveals that the Cabinet today approved a proposal that the 7.4 million baht they receive in compensation is now tax-exempt. . Oh what a surprise I thought the tax exemption was for all victims of political violence plus those affected by the troubles in the South. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Last night,the fiery speeches of the red shirts calling for justice and investigation of the deaths at Rachaprasong contrasted sharply with Thaksin's call for reconciliation and to accept what happened. In other words Thaksin's feels the red shirts have served their purpose, some died, well that was necessary to swing Thai\ world opinion, and besides their families are getting a massive 7.4 million baht in compensation. Plus further probes could find all sorts of nasty things: possibilities such as stolen army rifles being used by black shirts, renegade soldiers working for the UDD, so PLEASE STOP ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION, Let's just forget what happened so long as Thaksin can come home- that's all that matters for one of the world's greatest liars. To sweeten the pot, news this afternoon reveals that the Cabinet today approved a proposal that the 7.4 million baht they receive in compensation is now tax-exempt. . Oh what a surprise Yet they couldn't do that with a Gov to Gov procurement of PC tablets for school kids. The more the Government mention figures like 7.4 million baht the more those that believe they are getting it will be frothing at the mouth. I wonder how many reds took their elderly relatives to the protest on Saturday, hoping for an armed intervention so that they could get a little 'inheritance'. In a country where compensation for a death would ordinarily be in the region of 50k to 200 k baht, this 7.4M each is going to cause a LOT of problems in the red villages when some of the poor receive such mega money whilst the others do not. Thais are not exactly unknown for their resentment of those that receive money are they. I am not saying that victims families should not be duly compensated (and I hope that includes the families of the soldiers that were killed) for their loss, but the way that the Government is handling it is so blindingly politically obvious they are courting big trouble. So, if the Government don't pay up there will be trouble soon, and when they do pay up, there will be trouble soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) To sweeten the pot, news this afternoon reveals that the Cabinet today approved a proposal that the 7.4 million baht they receive in compensation is now tax-exempt. Oh what a surprise I thought the tax exemption was for all victims of political violence plus those affected by the troubles in the South. It is... but the tax exemption for the Southern victims is just not quite as "sweet" as it is for the other compensations (apologies for quoting the wrong amount above) Red Shirt compensations proposed = 7.75 million Deep South compensations proposed = 1.5 million Edited May 21, 2012 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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